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The rest of the NFC Central/North has squandered the careers of some of the best players to ever play their respective positions in the last 25 years. Sanders, Moss, Urlacher, Megatron and AP. I won't lose a whole lot of sleep for most on that list, but it's still the reality.

Just reinforces that QB is by far the most important position in all of sports.

Tillman and Woodson are probably the two best CBs at stripping the ball.  Rare for CBs to that good at tackling that they can consciously focus on stripping since most CBs need to work just to get the ball carrier down.  

EDIT:  Just looked it up, Tillman had 41 forced fumbles and Woodson had 32, good for first and second since they started tracking that stat.  Number three is Nate Clements with 23.  

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Tillman was a great player. 41 FF is crazy. Woodson with 32 is crazy. After that Woodsons numbers are just silly. Almost 1,000 tackles. 20 sacks (Tillman had 3). 65 picks and 11 TDs. 

High School player of the year. National Champion. Heisman Trophy. Defensive Player of the Year. Super Bowl Champion. 1st Ballot Hall of Fame. Nice trophy case Charles. 

Funny thing about Charles career. His numbers in Green Bay completely demolish his 11 years in Oakland. He went from 4 time pro bowler in Oakland to all world as a Packer. 

No idea what Mike said to him after watching him drag his ass around camp in 2006. Something lit a fire under his ass. Maybe just the winning. 

Woodson, Collins, Shields, Tramon. What a secondary. 

Three plays set up Tramon's 70 yard pick six. All in a row. 

Pass interfernce on Shields. Pass interference on Tramon. Got ATL  inside the 30 IIRC. 

Sack by Clay backed Vanilla Ice to the 35 with 10 seconds left. 

Those two BS PI calls gave Mike Smith a greedy sense of opportunity. Should have kicked the FG Mike. Should have kicked the FG. 

ammo posted:

Wait until his HOF ceremony. He'll get more cheers than Bert. 

Here's a HOF moment we can all get behind. 

Nick Collins and Chad Clifton are being inducted to the Packer Hall Of Fame next weekend. 

Nick asked Charles Woodson to induct him. Charles gladly accepted. 

Lot of Pro Bowls and memorable moments for two great Packers that never owned a locker outside of 1265. 

@JayGlazer: Seahawks quietly locked up a big potential free agent today when they inked GM John Schneider to huge 5-yr extension.

His old deal expired at the end of the 2016 season. Also, that contract was reported to have an escape clause should the Packer GM position be offered to him.

@JayGlazer: Seattle now will try to lock up Pete as well but the Schneider negotiations were HUGE to get done as it has been going on all offseason.

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Could still have that clause, I would think Schneider would have the negotiating power as he would likely be picked up immediately were he allowed to leave.

Seattle will be an interesting team to watch now that they are handicapped by the QB position like almost every other team. They're also paying other star players very handsomely. The real test of a great GM, IMO, is if you can keep your team in SB contention by putting together a quality roster on a lower budget. Most teams high earning players are QB, LT, pass rusher with some configuration of WR, S, ILB, CB, RT, and DT charging 8 figures against the cap, depending on the team. So generally teams have 4-6 players charging 1/4 to 1/3 the cap with the other 47-49 players earning good money to minimum. So really you're putting together a 49 man roster with $80-90 mil rather than $120mil. That's tough, the good GMs can keep their cap solid and hold on to talent. Seattle seems to be holding talent, but they've sacrificed at other positions (OLine and CB other than Sherman specifically). Schneider's skills will be put to the test over the next couple years.

Speaking of a-holes:

With Junior Galette lost for another year with a ruptured Achilles tendon, Washington needs help at the position. Help could come in the form of free-agent Greg Hardy.

Ed Werder of ESPN reports that the team has discussed adding Hardy, who spent five years with the Panthers and last season in Dallas.

Werder points out that cornerback Josh Norman would vouch for Hardy, based on their mutual time together in Charlotte. The bigger question is whether Washington would be willing to withstand the potential P.R. fallout from adding Hardy.

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