Figured we would do a master moves thread since teams are already cutting players and free agency is less then 4 weeks away.
Cut by the Giants:
Victor Cruz: 'I think I have a lot of good football left ahead of me' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap
Giants settling all family business today. They will not be re-signing TE Larry Donnell. He'll be a free agent.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Feb 14
Ex-#Browns CB K'Waun Williams, now fully cleared by Dr. Anderson, is a rare February FA. Visits the #Lions today, then #Jets, source said.
Brad Childress will now serve as Chiefs' Asst HC and Matt Nagy will be team's Offensive Coordinator
Pretty interesting read here:
Predicting the price tags of the top 20 players available in FA
Nick Perry is one of the most interesting players on this list—a young pass-rusher in his prime who is coming off a breakout season and plays for a team that's been known both for keeping its own and balking at big deals in free agency.
After four relatively quiet seasons in which Perry totaled 12.5 sacks, the 26-year-old played last season on a one-year, $5 million deal.
As Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus wrote, to say Perry broke out is an understatement:
Coming into 2016, Nick Perry had never played particularly poorly over a season, but there was little to suggest that he could become an impact player for the Packers and justify his first-round draft status. This season, though, Perry racked up 11 sacks and 47 total QB pressures—despite missing significant time due to injury. He also recorded 37 defensive stops, good enough for ninth-most among all NFL edge defenders, despite playing fewer snaps than any of the players above him in that category (and many of those below him). Perry has looked excellent against the run and pass, and now looks every bit like a former first-round pic
It leaves general manager Ted Thompson and the Packers with quite a conundrum. On one hand, in 2016 Perry played like just the sort of young player Thompson has been willing to pay in the past. On the other hand, it was one big year out of five, and Perry has never played a full 16-game season.
It's possible the Packers could tag Perry, but it's unlikely. Not at $14.8 million with other prominent free agents to worry about.
That leaves Teddy Tightwad (I kid—he's good at what he does) with the aforementioned conundrum. Either bite the bullet and hope that Perry's 2016 was the beginning of a trend and not an anomaly, or watch him leave for a team that is willing to take that risk.
My guess is it will be the latter, but I'll confess it's essentially just that—a guess.
Either way, Perry will get paid this spring.
Projected Contract: Five years, $46 million ($22 million guaranteed)
And from Packernotes:
The Green Bay Packers need to add a veteran cornerback between now and the start of training camp, and it’s hard to imagine general manager Ted Thompson paying big bucks to any of the top unrestricted free agents. And the list of second-tier players isn’t particularly impressive. So where might Thompson look to upgrade his team’s weakest position? Keep a very close eye on Jacksonville.
The Jaguars owe Davon House $6 million in 2017, a number that seems awfully high for a player who was benched early last season. If the 27-year-old gets released, don’t be surprised if he winds up back in Green Bay. Thompson drafted the former New Mexico State star in the fourth round in 2011, and assistant coach Joe Whitt developed him into a player a number of teams coveted in free agency. House eventually signed a $24.5M deal with Jacksonville.
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Don't bet the house on it.
OLB Melvin Ingram is likely not to be re-signed by the Bolts. New DC Gus Bradley's 4-3 system isn't a fit for Ingram and reports are he will be allowed to go to FA.
Ingram vs Perry is IMO an interesting proposition for the Packers. Ingram's produced 18.5 sacks in the last 2 seasons, like Perry has had some health issues, but the last 2 seasons he's been healthy.
I know better then to think TT will even look Ingram's way, but if the Packers are going to put out money to either re-sign Perry or replace him, he'd been an interesting FA and would give Capers a legit pass rusher opposite CMIII.
I like the ingram move
I like Ingram, but I guess it's whether they're going to stick with the 4-2/2-4 "base" defense. Maybe it's the powder blue, but Ingram looks a bit smaller than Perry and they may want to stick with bigger edge guys. That could mean a Taco Charlton over a Takkarist McKinley, for example, if they draft one in the first.
I hope the Texans franchise Bouye. If that happens I don't see any way they will be able to keep Jonathan Joseph on the roster. Joseph isn't a world-beater anymore. He's getting older (will be 33 before next season begins) and his performance could suffer a pretty dramatic falloff any season now. He also had some nagging injury problems that kept him out of three games last year (ribs). He had missed a total of 4 games over the previous 5 seasons. But he was still a solid player last year. Probably would put him somewhere between "good" and "above-average." His age limits his earning potential on the market. If he is cut he won't figure in the compensatory selection formula. If this all happens it would make him a very low risk investment for a veteran player who was better than any of the Packer cornerbacks last season.
One concern is that Joseph still good enough where it would be completely reasonable for another team to trade a late round pick to acquire him. I wouldn't mind it if that team was the Packers, although it's unlikely Thompson would do that.
Another possibility is Kayvon Webster. He's on the Broncos now and has shown a lot of talent. Problem is he's sitting behind Talib, Harris and Roby, so he's not cracking the Broncos lineup any time soon. He's only 26 and should come failry cheap, since he hasn't played much. Broncos really want him back but reports are he wants to go somewhere and play. Just another option in case TT doesn't want to spend on the big name CBs (Bouye, T Johnson or Gilmore).
Another name I came across that might be released: Davon House.
PackerJoe posted:Joseph isn't a world-beater anymore. He's getting older (will be 33 before next season begins) and his performance could suffer a pretty dramatic falloff any season now.
We need that.
if there was a year or three in which to be slightly more flexible with the draft and develop only philosophy (which I totally agree with and buy in to) then it's here. Can we adopt the framework that the Patriots have? As far as winning in the last 10 years... It's the Patriots, big drop and then the Packers and then everybody else. So we know what we're doing works but it looks unarguably like the Pats' version is more effective. I think that would mean getting the FAs you need to fill the gaps while you're developing the draftees. Probably some better Defense too.
Benched in Jacksonville and the Packers will sign him? Time to find a different Realtor, that isn't the House you want.
He'd be cheap, not count against compensatory picks, knows the coaches/system and TT drafted him, which are all selling points for the organization. He's the kind of FA TT would sign.
Biggest problem House had here was staying on the field. Wouldn't be a bad stop-gap if the price was right.
4 time pro bowler now on the market. Jets save 10 mil from their cap:
GBFanForLife posted:Benched in Jacksonville and the Packers will sign him? Time to find a different Realtor, that isn't the House you want.
I see what you did there.
I think it's a good time to mention an anagram for Dom Capers is Scared Mop. So is Damp Cores. But Scared Mop works better.
How about So Cramped?
Do Scamper?
Scraped Mo?
How long are you compadres going to keep this up?
It's the off-season... if such a thing exists in the NFL. (They want us to think there is no off-season so the interest and money keep on rolling in.)
Dr.-Ka-Bong posted:I think it's a good time to mention an anagram for Dom Capers is Dom Capers sucks.
Sounds like 20% off.
Fedya posted:How long are you compadres going to keep this up?
Hateful.
With the kind of coin Revis thinks he is worth, better be 50% off.
from pft:
Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis has been charged with four felonies after an incident last weekend on Pittsburgh’s South Side.
Revis has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault, one count of robbery and one count of conspiracy, per multiple reports. He’s also been charged with making terroristic threats, a misdemeanor.
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the only reason I posted this was for the "making terroristic threats" nonsense. give me a break. what country did he threaten with terrorism while having a street brawl? only in the bedwetting usa.
31 and can still close on a 22 year old. Good sign.
Tdog posted:from pft:
the only reason I posted this was for the "making terroristic threats" nonsense. give me a break. what country did he threaten with terrorism while having a street brawl? only in the bedwetting usa.
Was thinking the same thing, but this article breaks it down pretty well (based on facts known right now). Per SI:
A charge of terroristic threats is also serious, with a potential five-year prison sentence under Pennsylvania law. A terroristic threat is not synonymous with a “terrorist” threat. A terroristic threat is instead a threat to harm another person with the goal of terrorizing that individual. While the charges have not yet been explained by law enforcement, Revis is presumably accused of threatening the two men with harm in hopes of terrorizing them.
So that makes more sense, and is likely worse for Revis. Sounds like a bad situation he put himself in. Crazy that a 10+ year veteran would still react like this to people recording him. Can't be the first time he's encountered this type of situation.
PFF's Top 10 CBs in free agency
TT has plenty to choose from if he wants to fix the CB position.
CUPackFan posted:So that makes more sense, and is likely worse for Revis.Tdog posted:from pft:
the only reason I posted this was for the "making terroristic threats" nonsense. give me a break. what country did he threaten with terrorism while having a street brawl? only in the bedwetting usa.
You mean we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions without understanding the whole picture?
packerboi posted:
Hate to sound like a Trump supporter, but LOCK HIM UP!
I think two young guys are about to get a big payday in a civil suit against Revis. Revis will plea bargain to something and is unlikely to do jail time, but Goodell will suspend him a few games for this.
CUPackFan posted:PFF's Top 10 CBs in free agency
TT has plenty to choose from if he wants to fix the CB position.
I think TT will choose to roll with Randall and Rollins and expect that the defensive staff will coach them up and that Randall's crapping the bed last year was mostly due to injuries (Davante Adams circa 2015). I think it will Randall, Rollins, Gunther, and a pick in the first 3 rounds. Look at how bad the receivers were in 2015 after Nelson and Monty went down and they brought back almost the entire same group and gambled that Jordy and Monty would be healthy. Randall and Rollins are high draft picks. TT is not going to abandon his philosophy of sticking with his draft picks for the first 4 years because of one bad year at CB. Hyde will get similar money to what Hayward got and I'll bet TT won't outbid anyone on him.
Having said that, I'd love to see a couple of mid-level CBs signed just for competition and professionalism, but I'll believe it when I see it.
CUPackFan posted:Was thinking the same thing, but this article breaks it down pretty well (based on facts known right now). Per SI:
A charge of terroristic threats is also serious, with a potential five-year prison sentence under Pennsylvania law. A terroristic threat is not synonymous with a “terrorist” threat. A terroristic threat is instead a threat to harm another person with the goal of terrorizing that individual. While the charges have not yet been explained by law enforcement, Revis is presumably accused of threatening the two men with harm in hopes of terrorizing them.
So that makes more sense, and is likely worse for Revis. Sounds like a bad situation he put himself in. Crazy that a 10+ year veteran would still react like this to people recording him. Can't be the first time he's encountered this type of situation.
I was being over the top. But it's still the ridiculousness of our multiple offenses for a single offense legal system today. Like when someone gets busted with pot so they get a charge for possession, a charge for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge for intent to distribute if they happen to more than a certain amount, etc.
How many types of threats are there according to the legal system? If I threaten someone I damn well intend it to scare them. Why else do you threaten someone? Is scaring better than terrorizing? It's all BS.
But since Pennsylvania is a "stand your ground" state, Revis would have been within his rights and not charged with anything, most likely, if he had pulled a gun and shot both of them dead. Dead men tell no tales, after all.
Goalline posted:Hate to sound like a Trump supporter, but LOCK HIM UP!
Can you help him get a meeting with the CBC? They friends of yours?
if he can get work release would he be worth signing?
Hungry5 posted:Goalline posted:Hate to sound like a Trump supporter, but LOCK HIM UP!
Can you help him get a meeting with the CBC? They friends of yours?
GBFanForLife posted:if he can get work release would he be worth signing?
Or, he could always bring the chain gang with him.
One of the great endings of all time:
