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Originally Posted by Rusty:
Originally Posted by Boris:

Vernon Davis is "Doubtful".

 

Always hated when AJ Hawk would "cover" him

As much as Hawk wore out his welcome over the years, he was a much better locker room guy than Davis has turned out to be. If I had to pick between the two, I'd take Hawk every time. That pick was never the difference between winning/losing a Super Bowl.

 A.J. was indeed a great locker room guy.

 

It was only when Hawk stepped on the field that his many limitations became so apparent, including when Vernon Davis repeatedly beat him on pass plays down the field when the Pack was losing the last several games to the Niners.

 

Vernon Davis is/was a head case but he also has 55 career TDs. I'm glad he's not going to be out there tomorrw.  

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Janis! is taking a bit of stick here on the board and in Packerland, somewhat deservedly. But I confess to being in his corner, much as I am with Abby. Tom Silverstein answered a couple of questions about Janis! during a JSO chat this Thursday which puts where he is in perspective. 

Q: GeorgeM, Manassas, VA - Tom, thanks again for your great reporting and amazing work during the game chats! Can you explain what you've seen with Janis? Bob wrote in his game review that Janis didn't look ready. You've seen him in practice and have a better eye for these things than most of us. His measurables seem like he'd be a good fit for the Packers, but something isn't right. Will you tell us what you're seeing? 

A: Tom Silverstein - What I see George is someone who is learning what it takes to play in the NFL. He's a small-town kid from a small school who basically just ran as fast as he could and waited for the ball to come to him. He doesn't have the savvy and experience the other WRs have. Montgomery was a very fast learner and played at a major Div. 1 school. It's not surprising he has excelled. Janis has looked much better on special teams and that's where he'll build confidence. I see a guy still learning how to play fast and in control, learning to be physical and to be intuitive. He let a DB ride him out of bounds on his one big opportunity. He's got to see that ahead of time and make sure he stays alive for Rodgers. Those are little things he needs to improve on.

 

Q: rilee4, Hazelhurst, Wisconsin - Good morning Tom We had a great game vs KC, but can we sustain the dink and dunk against top defenses with an occasional long pass via broken plays/penalty plays the rest of the season? We need someone (Jordy Nelsonish) like Janis to contribute with a few long plays to stretch the field and keep some of the pressure off Cobb and Jones; it would also help our run game. Do you think MM is thinking on those lines?

A: Tom Silverstein - I do agree that they won't be able to live on short passes and free plays forever. They are going to have to stretch the field. I think Montgomery will continue to develop and they'll rely heavily on yards after the catch. But they're going to need Janis to get into the rotation and win some deep balls so they can keep defenses from creeping in and tightening up the passing window. 

 

Q: Garrett Josephson, Shorewood, WI - Janis displays raw, less than game-ready WR skills. Witness his 5-yard penalty vs. KC that showed his ongoing challenge to be part of an offensive set. If he continues to struggle, does TT & MM turn to a newcomer FA or re-sign Myles White (if he's out of the NFL?)?

A: Tom Silverstein - No, I think they'll stick with Janis. The fact he's improving on special teams shows that he has potential as an NFL player. They know he's fast and has receiving skills. They just need to keep dipping his toes in the water and get him acclimated to regular-season football. It's a process.

Originally Posted by CAPackfan:

Wonder if Abby immediately takes over PR duties?

I wouldn't think so, CAPf. Hyde is doing well enough, and I don't see a need to change status quo.

I like the option of having him available, but if he is going to return, he needs to practice it. No idea if he has been, or even has the time to, assuming coaches haven't been prepping him for that role.

George Wallace. 

 

As a kid growing up soaking up ever damn thing I could about football I fell in love with Bear Bryant. 

 

Bear hated Wallace. He wanted to desegregate Alabama and knew he couldn't. Not in 63, 65, 68. He kept sending black kids he liked to schools up north to coaches he trusted. 

 

In 1970 Bear invited John McKay and his all black USC backfield to Tuscaloosa. USC pounded the **** out of Alabama. Bear knew what he was doing. The next year Bear's two black defensive standouts helped 'Bama beat USC 17-10 in Los Angeles. 

 

"We don't have any black football players. We don't have any white football players. We just have football players". 

 

Paul Bryant. 

Originally Posted by packerboi:

       
Whoa...

The Jared Abbrederis era will begin tomorrow, as the Green Bay Packers have promoted the former Wisconsin Badgers wide receiver from the practice squad to the active roster. DE Bruce Gaston has been released

       




Wow. Shocker. Deep threat. I like it. It could be cool if Aaron and Abby start making connections. Would love to see Abby have a good career here. Being a super solid route runner will help him. I see this as a BIG Janis demotion. Anyone else see this as more about Janis and less about Adams' injury?

Too bad about Gaston, but he did a decent job in Guion's absence.
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Originally Posted by Goalline:

       
Originally Posted by packerboi:

Whoa...

 

The Jared Abbrederis era will begin tomorrow, as the Green Bay Packers have promoted the former Wisconsin Badgers wide receiver from the practice squad to the active roster. DE Bruce Gaston has been released

Fedya will be thrilled.

I always just find it humorous how many posters here go nuts over ex-Badgers.  They still think Montee Ball and Ron Dayne were misused in the NFL. 

I can only imagine what will happen if any team is dumb enough to draft Stave. 
Originally Posted by Fedya:
 

I can only imagine what will happen if any team is dumb enough to draft Stave. 

In the simpleton, binary brain of a FIB, anything in Wisconsin would jealously correlate to the success of the Packers.

 

Stave is whispered in terms of "Messiah".

 

Dat's just how a Bear brain works.

 

They think hot dogs are special too...so there you go.

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