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ChilliJon posted:

Rodgers is Elways arm with Aikmans accuracy with Steve Youngs legs with Montanas read. 

And none of it would matter if he didn't also have Bart Starr's intelligence and game time demeanor.

See, the cool thing about football is that the QB goes through progressions and can choose one of six options. Why take a 5 yard safe completion when Jordy is breaking open on a double move ? Just as hunch but I would bet that McCarthy is completely on board with Rodgers decision making.

Like many, I fell into the trap of criticizing Rodgers last year.....and then he played like Michael Jordan....carried his team on his back. The guy is playing like one of the best QB's in the history of a 100 year old league. I'm ok with his decision making.

Packdog posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Rodgers is Elways arm with Aikmans accuracy with Steve Youngs legs with Montanas read. 

And none of it would matter if he didn't also have Bart Starr's intelligence and game time demeanor.

See, the cool thing about football is that the QB goes through progressions and can choose one of six options. Why take a 5 yard safe completion when Jordy is breaking open on a double move ? Just as hunch but I would bet that McCarthy is completely on board with Rodgers decision making.

Like many, I fell into the trap of criticizing Rodgers last year.....and then he played like Michael Jordan....carried his team on his back. The guy is playing like one of the best QB's in the history of a 100 year old league. I'm ok with his decision making.

I thought when Rodgers said he thought the Pack would win out was precisely when he much less often waited beyond the set progression sequence of a play and made time with his footwork to go for a big play to playing much more often within the progression time window of a play and hitting an open receiver.

In fact, if memory serves me correct, folks referred to this very thing.

I think Rodgers is very likely the best there ever was and IF what the guy is saying is true (or largely true), were he to play within the progression time window more often and hitting any open receiver, he would be even better.

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ChilliJon posted:

Holding the ball longer than he should keeps Doms defense on the sideline an average of :48 seconds longer per game than they would if Aaron got rid of the ball on time. 

:48 seconds is enough time of possession for two scores against Dom. So Aaron is not only good. He's a genius. 

48 seconds per game? You mean per throw?

Goalline posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Holding the ball longer than he should keeps Doms defense on the sideline an average of :48 seconds longer per game than they would if Aaron got rid of the ball on time. 

:48 seconds is enough time of possession for two scores against Dom. So Aaron is not only good. He's a genius. 

48 seconds per game? You mean per throw?

Last game of 2016. Need to finish running the table for the division. Need a TD on 3rd and 9 in the 4th. I'm sure someone was open quick. But IMO it's silly to question how Aaron Rodgers decides to get his job done when no one fully comprehends how good he is at getting his job done. 

"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man that rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide. And then questions the manner in which I provide it" 

 

On Rodgers and the idea of holding the ball too long...

I did some internet searching back on July 20.  Just didn't bother posting.

Anyway, I came upon what I thought was a solid article that discussed Rodger's (for him) highly subpar passing stats last year and how they suddenly improved starting with the winning streak (after the Pack was 4-6).

The author said that Nelson was not yet back to speed and Adams was running crappy routes and later in the season. Jordy was close to his old self and Adams route running improved.

So there is a conflict.  One guy says Rodgers waits too long, but does not qualify with the above thereby suggesting it is just how he prefers to play with no accounting obstacles he has to play within.  Another guy says very often receivers simply were not open.

My guess is I was wrong and receivers were having a hard time getting open.  Once this improved, Rodgers much more often threw the ball within the progression of plays.

Have to chime in on something else.  It was on cbssports and was a video of someone's take on Rodger's ranking with the QB greats with attention paid to the fact that he will have 300 TD passes well before 100 interceptions (read: an amazing stat).

The analyst's response to this is Rodgers is not the greatest (maybe said not among the greatest), but he has the ability.

My thoughts...

One can have all the ability in the world and range anywhere from putrid to superb performance.

The context was over an amazing stat.  In other words, a stat not just about ability, but that obviously extends itself to performance (what one has done with his ability).

I could have puked.  Do I ever wish he took questions live.  I would have skewered the guy.

FinnLander posted:

"With just 115 interceptions at the time he threw touchdown No. 300, Brady had the fewest picks of anyone to reach the mark. Rodgers will throw No. 300 with about 40 fewer interceptions than Brady had".

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That is a scenario that begs a % difference comparison.

Rodgers will have ONE THIRD less interceptions.  That is staggering.

Ha.  Yeah.  I saw that yesterday too, Goldie.   TB did seem to talk like that.   But I don't think he does that interview like he did if it wasn't Willie McGinst interviewing him.   If he plays well until he's 45, then maybe AR will, too.

I thought it was funny that he's promoting his book on Eating Well.   I didn't think he needed the money.  Ha.  Unless he donates the profits to charity.  But the book must have some nuggets in there since AR has recommended it, too.

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