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Found this on SI's MMQB.  Peter King did a nice job. 

 

 

 

On Aaron Rodgers. I think we’re taking Mr. Rodgers for granted a bit. I’m not a big fan of the traditional NFL passer rating, as you may know, but doing some research for the camp tour, I found Rodgers’ place among active quarterbacks highly, highly impressive. Check out where Rodgers stands among the active Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks:

 RatingComp%Yds/AttTD%Int%
Aaron Rodgers104.965.828.26.41.8
Russell Wilson100.663.68.16.42.2
Peyton Manning97.265.57.75.82.6
Tom Brady95.763.47.55.52.0
Drew Brees95.365.917.55.32.6
Ben Roethlisberger92.663.37.85.02.8
Joe Flacco83.760.26.93.92.5
Eli Manning81.258.57.14.63.4

 

Look at that: First in rating, second in completion percentage (by nine-hundredths of a point), first in yards per pass attempt, first in touchdown percentage, first in lowest interception percentage. He is 30 years old.

 

This is the year we put it all together and  wins his second Super Bowl.

 

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/07/21/...aining-camp-opens/2/

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But in the NFC North — which Green Bay has won the last three seasons — quarterback Aaron Rodgers has been the deciding variable. Since taking over as the starter, Rodgers is 26-8 against the NFC North, in addition to two playoff wins.

 

The numbers are staggering. Rodgers has thrown 66 touchdowns with only 17 interceptions and a 109.7 passer rating.

 

Opponent

Record

Rating

Pass Yards

Pass TD/Int.

Rush Yards

Rush TD

Chicago

9-3

100.9

2,831

21-8

92

1

Minnesota

8-4

117.9

3,125

26-4

213

1

Detroit

9-1

110.0

2,559

19-5

125

1

Last season Rodgers was again the ultimate equalizer.

I am amazed at Russell Wilson's yards per attempt. That is a big time stat. He may not throw as often as the other QB's, but when he does he has been pretty ****ing good. 8.1 yards per attempt is insane.

 

AR, over a much longer period, has bettered it. Yet, there are still articles being printed about how much better of a legacy Brent has? WTF.

Originally Posted by Goalline:

I am amazed at Russell Wilson's yards per attempt.

 

Marshawn Lynch is keeping the safeties/LB's occupied, but its still a great stat and he'll keep getting better.

One thing regarding Wilson and his numbers is that he could afford to be and was encouraged to be very conservative with his passing.  The  Seasuck offense regularly had  long dry spells and depended on the D sitting on the other team and winning the game 7-6.  This year with the expected emphasis on illegal contact- defensive holding he may be required to put up bigger numbers; should he manage that I'll have a better opinion but for now I still just see a good but not great talent

Pack88

But, that's the awesome thing about the yards per attempt metric. It rewards accuracy down the field. Hardly an advantage for conservative QBs. I think Wilson is that good. Except for INTs he is hanging there with the big boys.

Boris:  I don't disagree Rodgers may be the guy I place next to Starr as my steel eyed assassin.  After 16 seasons of holding my breath every time the QB threw the ball -now when I see the ball leave after less than 1 second I know something good is going to happen.  Rodgers is the most careful QB I have ever seen and unlike my guy his arm is unquestioned.  For me Rodgers Icebowl was the laser he threw to Jennings on 3rd and 10 in the Superbowl.  

Pack88

I've watched the NFL since the mid-60s and Rodgers is the best total package QB I've seen. His combination of arm strength, mobility, accuracy on the move, and smarts is unprecedented. My only complaint is the post-Super Bowl playoff games. He's been good but by his standards a bit inconsistent. 

 

IMO TT and MM have put together an offense which, with the emergence of Lacy and any production to speak of from the TE position, could for the next few years be among the best in NFL history. With 12 as the triggerman the Packers will always be in contention, with contributions elsewhere on the roster we're talking more Lombardis.

Look at those two in that pic. One day they will conceive a child. And when that child is born it will float from Olivias vagina and nestle softly into a pile of hand stitched quilted pillows. I'm not sure what they will name the child. Maybe Abraham. Or Destiny. Or Zeus. If it's a boy he will leave the hospital with phone numbers from 3 different nurses. Matching the number of his father's Super Bowl MVPs.
I find some of the criticisms of Russell Wilson very interesting

In one season, the guy set the NCAA record for pass efficiency at Wisconsin of all places.   If not for a Hail Mary play maybe Wisconsin is in the NC discussion that year. 

He goes to Seattle and wins a Super Bowl.   What more do people expect out of the guy?

He's a leader, he's a high character guy, he makes big plays and he's clutch all despite not being the prototypical player at that position. 

Rodgers is our guy and I think he's the best but right now if I were starting a new franchise after A Rod might take Wilson to QB my team.  Brady and Manning and Brees aren't getting any younger.

Andrew Luck shouldn't be IN the conversation.... The conversation starts and ends with him.  He's the best young QB in the game by far and would be my top choice if I were starting a franchise.

Luck is absurdly talented.  That play in the playoff game vs. the Chiefs where the ball was bouncing around and Luck plucked it out of the air on the dead run and got into the endzone was incredible.  Just a pure athletic and instinctive play that not many QBs in history would have made look as easy as he did.

I guess I am the one who brought Wilson into the  discussion and I certainly never said anything negative about the guy other than he plays on a team with a great defense and he is expected to not turn the ball over and win the game 7-6.  Stats such as average per attempt generated by that metric are distorted.  There is nothing wrong with it, my favorite player of all time (Bart Starr) won 5 championships with that mode of play.  He did it long enough and often enough that his ability speaks for itself, currently (to me)  Wilson has not-- that is my point maybe this year he moves into that other category but  not yet!!   I mean Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams and Brad Johnson  won  Superbowl's  the same way.   So no offense to Russell Wilson,  when he saddles a team on his back- drives it down the field and jams it in for the winning score with a marginal running game-,time and adversity against him, then he may cross into that hallowed ground of great- till then just a product of fortunate circumstances

Pack88

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Well you are flat wrong

Comparing the situation with Wilson to that of Dilfer or Brad Johnson is laughable

By the way- what great receiving corps is Wilson throwing to in Seattle?

I am a big fan of Luck as well he's a helluva player

Wilson is a pretty good QB.  Second tier IMHFUO.  Some Packer fans are still bitter he didn't go on TV right after a big emotional win and admit he threw and INT. 

Tshmack; Exactly where did i say Wilson had a great receiving corps???  exactly how is his situation different from the 3, I mentioned!!  I get it you like theguy,  I'm not yet impressed- that is all I said: this is prove it time and just maybe he will we will.  We will all see but currently he is not any different than the 3 I mentioned; great defenses, top running games and 1 Superbowl!

Pack88

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meanwhile...

 

New coordinator calls the plays; Eli can’t understand him

 

Add this to the long list of adjustments Eli Manning has to make this summer: Understanding what the heck Ben McAdoo is saying.

 

The new offensive coordinator is from Homer City, Pa., about 50 miles outside of Pittsburgh, and he sounds like it. Mix that accent into the New Orleans drawl Eli Manning grew up hearing and it’s a match made somewhere other than linguistic heaven.

 

“We’re getting better,’’ Manning said Monday. “We’re on the same page. We had a few mishaps in OTAs, couple of words, the southern accent and the Pennsylvania accent, you don’t always say the same word the exact same way. We’ve dealt with that.’’

 

To mimic what will happen in games, McAdoo is not merely standing next to Manning calling the plays, but he’s using a walkie-talkie to bark them into the speakers in Manning’s helmet. That has led to some confusion. Some play calls contain the word “wool,” but the way McAdoo says it, it sounds more like “roll’’ to Manning.

 

“I had to try to figure out what he was saying,’’ Manning said. “He says it his way, I adjust to him. He’s going to say it that way, I just got to know what he’s talking about. Now I know. ‘Roll’ means ‘wool.’ ’’ -nypost

 

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