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Originally Posted by Satori:

       
Originally Posted by Goalline:

Clay is great at everything except run defense. Great pass rusher, hugely underrated in coverage, great in pursuit from behind, but on runs made right at him he is a little cavalier in reponsibility holding the edge, and even when he does, too often, he gets handled by tight ends.

That was one of the reasons behind drafting Perry - he's stout enough to set the edge in the run game


       


Funny enough, that is the only thing Perry for well.
Originally Posted by da Yooper:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:

According to McGinn, CMIII was double-teamed on 15.8 percent of his snaps and generated only 1 pressure in 26 pass rushes.  

 

We're not talking about Vic So'oto or Frank Zombo here, this is Clay Matthews and his 66 million dollar salary.  

 

We need more production. 

 

CMIII needs to affect how an offense runs and brings terror to them on every play.  The DC needs to constantly adjust to allow him to become more effective (which he should have been doing all along) and CMIII needs to turn those situations into dominant plays.  Everyone is accountable.

IMO, these takes are ridiculous.  The dude is out there with a hurt groin, and being double teamed on one of every 6 plays.  I don't have the stats, as to how many runs were up the middle or away from CMIII, but your wanting him to be a difference maker, when it's quite possible teams are cutting, double teaming him, or running right at him, or using his aggressiveness against him, with screens, etc.  

 

IF CMIII doesn't make the interception, I'm sure you would be even more upset that were not getting production.  He makes the interception, and your upset because he didn't take it to the house.  

 

Is he getting paid alot, of course, and I imagine every team that the Packers play, their OL and OC scheme to negate any impact that CMIII will have on their O.  Has it worked, who knows? If we don't pay CMIII, then Jerruh or Dan Snyder pay him the kings ransom, and we are all whining about if only we had an difference maker OLB.  You can't have it both ways.  

 

Just out of curiosity for 66M, what kind of production do you expect?  

Last edited by PackerRuss

Exactly H5.  Hero worship is for suckers.  Clay is a dynamic football player.  We need more production out of him.  

 

When his production tailed off over the recent past, the rally cry was he needed somebody else on defense to take the pressure off of him.  He has it with Peppers and to a lesser extent Daniels now.  Being double teamed roughly 15% of the time is exactly what the proverbial doctor ordered for Clay.  But 1 pressure against a line that had two backups starting?  That's not good enough.  My guess is Clay would say the same thing. 

 

I don't recall complaining about not taking the breadbasket INT to the house.  

Last edited by Pakrz

September is the new preseason as Vic likes to remind us

 

Holster the pitchforks until the bye week, and then if they haven't shown improvement,  fans can stick em like a voodoo doll. Maybe the "basketball on grass" analogy is closer than we think - nobody cares about the NBA until the end of the game or the end of the season. The rest is just filler. Maybe that's what's happening here too

 

 

I think the Packers have had too many D coaching layers. D-line coach, OLB coach, ILB coach, DB coach, Safety coach. 

 

That's 5 coaches fighting to make a name for themselves. And the way you do that is coaching your guys to play outside the system to stand out. Not saying that's happening but the opportunity for that to happen has been put into place. You can bet your ass that of those 5 coaches one of them is really the alpha dog and isn't going to sit quiet and not get recognized. 

 

D-line coach, LB coach, Secondary coach, D coordinator. Keep it simple and accountable. 

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