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converted infielder who has not pitche long. Can't think of a better organization to teach him how to be a pitcher than the Crew

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Appears to be a simple salary dump deal.  Barris may be pitching in the high minors but he still looks like a real long-shot to make any real contribution as a major leaguer.  Ramirez was never going to bring much of a return, but I figured Melvin would hold out longer rather than settle for a deal like this a full week out from the non-waiver trade deadline.

 

That sounds negative but I like the deal.  If any team would have offered a better prospect they would have demanded the Brewers eat more money.  It may have been worth it for a "great" prospect but nobody was going to offer a "great" prospect, so to eat more money for a player that would have had a just a little bit better of a chance to be a major leaguer...probably not worth it.  And I don't trust Ramirez's health (haven't from the first minute the Brewers signed him).  It would be typical Brewer's luck to pass on the 3 million + Barris and hold out for a better deal only to have Ramirez hurt himself and then get nothing for him in the end. 

 

Hopefully some team that needs pitching will look at this deal and think that maybe Lohse for 1 million dollars is worth the risk.

Next discussion is the Ramirez contract and was it worth it?

 

2012 = .300/.360/.540/.900, 149 games, 27 home runs, 105 RBIs (6 million)

Obviously this is a huge bargain for the Brewers.

 

2013 = .283/.370/.461/.831, 92 games, 12 home runs, 49 RBIs (10 million)

Was productive when healthy but missed roughly half the season.  To close to call if Ramirez was worth the investment for this season.

 

2014 = .285/.330/.427/.757, 133 games, 15 home runs, 66 RBIs (16 millon)

Decent enough slash line, but IMO not productive enough to merit a 16 million dollar salary from a small market team.  A significant consideration in this is Ramirez slashed a .217/.258/.293/.551 in September and was one of the main culprits in the Brewers nose-dive at the end of the season.  This is were the deal trended to the negative for Milwaukee. 

 

2015 = .247/.295/.430/.725, 81 games, 11 home runs, 42 RBIs (Brewers end up paying 11 million, Pirates will pay 3 million according to reports)

Terrible start, .295 OBP and never got the numbers up to the point where the Brewers could get a good return for him.

 

The Brewers still owe him 3 million in 2017 and 3 million in 2018.

 

The Brewers were 281-300 the last 3 1/2 years.  Best finish was 3rd place.

 

Fangraphs has him at a 9.7 WAR over the 3 1/2 years with the Brewers so on average he was a 2.8 WAR player.  He will end up being paid 49 million from the Brewers, so 14 million per full season.  That comes out to 5 million per win which is actually pretty good for a big market team like the Yankees, but it's very debatable if 5 million per win is worth it for the Brewers.   

 

I'd call it a bad contract for the Brewers.

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The Mets, as first reported by Newsday, also made an aggressive bid for the Brewers’ Gerardo Parra on Thursday night before calling up outfielder Michael Conforto from Double-A.

 

While the Mets offered a pitching prospect that the Brewers had asked about previously, the interest in Parra is now to the point where the Brewers believe they can do even better.

 

Parra, a potential free agent, has batted .344 since April 25 and ranks eighth in the NL in slugging, ahead of Anthony Rizzo, Buster Posey and Andrew McCutchen.

 

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Davis might not be the answer either but given his contract situation he's worth keeping around to see what he can do.  Parra is not in the same boat.  They need to deal him while his value is high - and that would be now.  Irs the same view I have with Carlos Gomez.  For once the Brewers can set the market instead of it being the other way around.

Doing a Fiers deal with the Blue Jays would be tricky.

 

Their top three prospects, Daniel Norris, Jeff Hoffman, Dalton Pompey are all elite prospects and pretty unlikely to be included in a Fiers deal unless the Brewers throw another young, promising player in the deal.

 

The Blue Jays next best prospect is catcher Max Pentecost and he has a messed up shoulder and hasn't played this year.

 

They do have some young players that the Brewers would covet on the active roster but the only one they would probably have any interest in dealing would be Devon Travis and he's probably limited to playing second base (although he has played a little in the outfield).

 

After that the Blue Jays have five players in their minor league system that look like decent enough prospects.  I like RHP-Sean Reid-Foley the best.  SS-Richard Urena, OF-Dwight Smith, 3B-Mitch Nay, RHP-Miguel Castro are the rest of the players in that group.  Cross-referencing the MLB Prospect Watch information with the Baseball America information and it looks like there is a big dropoff in talent once you get past that point.

 

Only other guy that interest me is 1B-Rowdy Tellez.  He can't run at all so he is limited to first base and is under-rated because of it.  He has some big raw power and has posted some decent OBPs so I think he has a chance to develop into first baseman masher type.

 

It's also worth mentioning that there is a Wisconsin catcher in their system by the name of Dan Jansen.  MLB has him ranked as the 20th best prospect in the system.  I wouldn't have much interst in him but the Brewers might try to grab him as a throw-in for PR purposes.

 

If the Brewers felt OK with Pentecost's shoulder he'd be the obvious target to shoot for.

 

The absolute least I would take would be Reid-Foley and Tellez.  For Fiers I think the Brewers should probably shoot for Reid-Foley, Tellez and then one more player from the Urena, Smith, Nay, Castro group which is probably higher than the Blue Jays would want to go. 

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