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Cuts I would make:

 
Hubbard
Perry--has been feeding on the teat for too long.  Not much ROI.
Tight ends Harold Spears and Mitchell Henry.
Christian Ringo
Matt Rotherham.  Sucks!
Kyri Thornton.  Ditto.
Carl Bradford.  Not impressed.
Matt Blanchard
Tavaris Dantzler
Blue
Hunt
Francis
Hooks
Abbrederis (injury settlement?)
 
 
from the UDFA's:  (not even sure if these guys are still on roster)

RB Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois

WR Jimmie Hunt, Missouri

G Marcus Reed, Fayetteville State

CB Bernard Blake, Colorado State

RB Raymond Maples, Army 

From the "What do we do with a girl like Maria?" category:
What to do with WR James Mitchell???  He has the kind of size to help try to help cover for Jordy, but ... can he get up to speed and in sync fast enough to be worth it?
 
 
fringe--
Demetri Goodson
Myles White.  Yes, we desperately need receivers, and he's been here long enough to know the playback, but his inconsistency is maddening.  But he did look better last night--still inconsistent though.  Rodgers hates that.
OL Fabbians Ebbele, Arizona.   Haven't seen him enough.  We need depth, but can he contribute?
 
 
IR or Practice Squad material:
RB John Crockett, North Dakota State Keep for Practice Squad if Alonzo goes on IR or vice versa.
However, honestly, I'm afraid either one of them on the practice squad will be picked up by someone else.   But really, how can we keep 5 RB's and 2 FB's?  Maybe trade one?  Or keep them all if you can?
WR Pinkard.  Practice squad.
WR Ed Williams
S Jean Fanor
ILB Joe Thomas?
DB Glover-Wright?
LB Sebetic
qb Blanchard???  (OR can we trade him for another WR or ILB or OT?)
Nickle Back --  Royal Wulff.  Okay, he's old and slow.  Perfect.  They'll never expect it!  ;-)

 

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Carl Bradford is our top ranked ILB, at #28 overall in the NFL Preseason by PFF.

Jake Ryan #41, Nate Palmer #55. Sam Barrington didn't crack the top 86... At some point, logic has to outweigh favoritism in our final 53 if we hope to be better than last year. Bradford had a very low 10 snaps last night, and still played well. One of our only ILBs with positive grades through all 3 games.

Jay Elliott, James Vaughters and Adrian Hubbard are our top 3 ranked OLBs, followed by Peppers and Mulumba.

Mike Pennel, Christian Ringo and Lavon Hooks are our top DEs at #33, #35 and #45 in the NFL.

You want to cut 4 of our top performers? Why?
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Originally Posted by Trophies:
Carl Bradford is our top ranked ILB, at #28 overall in the NFL Preseason by PFF.

Jake Ryan #41, Nate Palmer #55. Sam Barrington didn't crack the top 86... At some point, logic has to outweigh favoritism in our final 53 if we hope to be better than last year. Bradford had a very low 10 snaps last night, and still played well. One of our only ILBs with positive grades through all 3 games.

Jay Elliott, James Vaughters and Adrian Hubbard are our top 3 ranked OLBs, followed by Peppers and Mulumba.

Mike Pennel, Christian Ringo and Lavon Hooks are our top DEs at #33, #35 and #45 in the NFL.

You want to cut 4 of our top performers? Why?

I agree  that Barrington is not living up to the hype.

 

I never said to cut Pennel--I love the guy.  I also love J.Elliott, and hope he makes a big jump this year.  And Vaughters has flashed some stuff; he's not on my list.   Nor Is Jake Ryan.

 

I am simply going on what I have seen and what I have read from practices.   

 

I may need to re-examine Carl Bradford--I have seen him make plays, but just not enough.

 

As for Hubbard, he's missed too many plays for me to have confidence in him.

 

I have not seen or heard one good thing about Ringo.  I've heard a few good things about Hooks, but when I've seen him play, he''s done nothing.

 

As for special teams, they looked much improved in some regards in preseason games 1&2--especially in coverage.   They looked pretty bad last night.  If Mike is co-coaching ST with Zook, I sincerely hope he takes the bull by the horns and kicks some tushy.

 

Go ahead and persuase me otherwise with my picks, but I'm less impressed by a rating than by examples of plays they make, and especially by consistency!   But, hey, I am not a professional.   But I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express!

 

The PFF rankings in the preseason are meaningless to the people who make the decisions.

More accurate.

 

 

People are lazy, so fans and sports writers/reporters like PFF rankings because it's a number that someone else came up with. The guys doing the rankings at PFF are fans, mostly from the UK. Anyone who wants to put stock into a ranking on American Football from 50 drunks in a bar, go ahead.

 

 

Only need to cut 12 to get down to 75 this week, so largely a junk cut.

 

Guys like Ed Williams, Harold Spears, Andy Philips, Lavon Hooks, Javess Blue(?), Josh Frances, etc... Are goners. Garth Gerhart finally gone ? There's better OL backups now. 

Sebetic, ? 

 

We'll see if Bradford survives. Two nice plays in two years isn't very inspiring. 

 

Not sure what else Myles White has to do to shake fans' and pundits' perception of him. He was Hundley's go-to guy all night last night.  I'd call his play last night the opposite of "inconsistent."

 

From my angle at the computer, it looked like he lost sight of the ball on the 2 pt. conversion, when the defender blocked his view.  Other than that one play, he was assignment-sure, consistently in the right place, consistently open, and consistently catching the ball. And the one-hander with the guy handcuffing his other hand backwards was just sick.  

 

Not trying to pick on you Royal Wulff, all the media seems to want to talk about is Janis' and Montgomery's potential, and the most they can muster about White is that he made a good case for the #5.  

 

Weird.  Meanwhile what I'm seeing is our #3 receiver when the regular season opens, with Janis and Montgomery just not quite ready yet.

 

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This is what I have to get to 75 on Tue.

 

 

Phillips, AndyC/GRCentral MichiganCut
Rotheram, MattGRPittsburghCut
Francis, JoshLB1West VirginiaCut
Rasco, JermauriaLBRLouisiana StateCut
Harris, AlonzoRBRLouisiana-LafayetteCut
Fanor, JeanS1Bethune-CookmanCut
Kowalski, VinceTRVillanovaCut
Henry, MitchellTERWestern KentuckyCut
Spears, HaroldTERNew HampshireCut
Blue, JavessWRRKentuckyCut
Hunt, JimmieWRRMissouriCut
Williams, EdWRRFort Hays StateCut
Nelson, JordyWR8Kansas StateIR
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When I watch White I see a guy who's reached his potential.  He's not a bad player, but he pretty much is what he's going to be, a useful 4 or 5 in a pinch who knows the offense.

 

Montgomery and  Janis  still have a lot of room to grow and physical traits that let them compete with the starters around the league.  I think the number three snaps this year are better utilized getting Montgomery experience and I don't think White has shown enough potential to take those away from him.  White's the proverbial 'just a guy'. 

    

Translation: his catches, yards and first downs (like last night's) don't count,  because they don't look as good as Montgomery's or Janis's, even though he had twice as many.

I get it. In this league, it's not what you do, but how you look doing it. If you're not big like Montgomery or tall like Janis, you're "just a guy." No matter how much you produce.
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The guy playing is the guy that runs the best routes.  Or, call me kooky, they'll use White, Janis and Montgomery in the proper packages what work best to their talents.   

 

Good times getting worked up over scrub nation.  BTW, Bradford only makes this roster because the whole of the ILB corp is garbage and you have to have at least 3 other stiffs to man the position next to Clay.

 

 

There's nothing wrong with being 'just a guy'.  He's an NFL caliber player and he adds value to the bottom of the depth chart.   He's just one of those guys teams will always be looking to upgrade from.  When the **** hits the fan with injuries he's a good guy to have around.  Knows the offense and will do what's needed, he just doesn't have a high ceiling, imo.    

I'm sure everyone will be huge White and Janis fans when they are at the bottom of the roster fighting for positions again.  

 

Whoever runs the best routes and can keep up with the speed of Rodgers game will be playing.  Doesn't mean **** about playing with 3rd stringers, can they play with Rodgers.

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Originally Posted by Hungry5:

       
This is what I have to get to 75 on Tue.


Phillips, AndyC/GRCentral MichiganCut
Rotheram, MattGRPittsburghCut
Francis, JoshLB1West VirginiaCut
Rasco, JermauriaLBRLouisiana StateCut
Harris, AlonzoRBRLouisiana-LafayetteCut
Fanor, JeanS1Bethune-CookmanCut
Kowalski, VinceTRVillanovaCut
Henry, MitchellTERWestern KentuckyCut
Spears, HaroldTERNew HampshireCut
Blue, JavessWRRKentuckyCut
Hunt, JimmieWRRMissouriCut
Williams, EdWRRFort Hays StateCut
Nelson, JordyWR8Kansas StateIR

       


That's a great list to get down to the 75, Hungry5.

I'm wondering if Banjo didn't screw up some of his chances last night with some poor STs play. Fanor seemed to have outplayed him so far in preseason.

Vujnovich is another guy I think may have played himself off the roster last night.
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Originally Posted by Henry:

The guy playing is the guy that runs the best routes.  Or, call me kooky, they'll use White, Janis and Montgomery in the proper packages what work best to their talents. 

Silverstein has a long preview piece in today's JSO making this very point about earlier GB rosters. Lots of quotes from McCarthy and Rodgers about adjusting the offense as the team moved through Driver, Jennings, Jones, Finley, Jordy, Cobb, and Adams, all different players with contrasting strengths and weaknesses. A good read.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...917z1-323348441.html

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Pistol, I could be entirely wet on this.  I agree that his game last night was better than most of his games, but in preseason games 1&2 I felt that he looked the exact same as last preseason--inconsistent.  So I tend to agree that he's hit his ceiling.

 

But, believe me, I'd be very happy to be wrong as long as SOMEONE steps up to bolster the WR corps sans Jordy.

I think White would've been the #3 in practice this week and going into the game last night if he was the #4 when Jordy went down. I too think he may have hit his peak and will go down in the Packers annals as one of the All Oneida players. Getting a lot of targets from Hundley very likely means he has played a lot with Hundley (3rd string). 

 

 

Banjo or Fanor was one of my last choices. I went with Banjo due to his experience and his ST showing from last year, which is what kept him around. No one really did themselves any favor on ST last night.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Henry:

I'm sure everyone will be huge White and Janis fans when they are at the bottom of the roster fighting for positions again.  

 

Whoever runs the best routes and can keep up with the speed of Rodgers game will be playing.  Doesn't mean **** about playing with 3rd stringers, can they play with Rodgers.

 

Agree, that's why I think White sees more snaps then the other two early in the year.  by the end of the year I think Jannis and Monty both pass him up.

Crack me up. Janis plays inconsistently in preseason, he's at his floor and "flashing potential." Same with Monty. White does it, it is plain old inconsistency. White has a good game, it is his ceiling. Or he only had a good game because he's used to playing with the scrubs, the same people Janis and Monty were playing with but got outplayed, because they are at their floor, but White is at his ceiling.

Alrighty then.
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