And that's really the thing. Bear hate is generational. It's passed down. You grow up with Bear week. Parents. Grandparents. Great Grandparents.
The Vikings Suck. The Bears need to be beaten.
Exactly.. If I didn't hate the Bears my sweet little grandma would roll over in her grave. She's counting on me to teach my daughter to hate those no good FIBs.
Clayton Bigsby said it best. "Ya got to let the hate into your heart!"
Sheeeeit...I kinda like the Bears; easy wins. Seriously, FK da Queens! Hate them!
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
Don't forget what the sh!!y Soldier Field did to Eddie Lee Ivery and, by extension, what that did to Bart Starr's chances for success. I was 9 years old when the Packers drafted Ivery and in preseason the buzz about him was off the charts. He just looked like a future superstar/HOF type player. He was going to be a Barry Sanders type running back. He then went into Soldier Field on opening day and in his first 3 carries gained 24 yards and promptly blew his knee out. He returned the next year and was a decent back, but then blew out a knee in the first game of the year in 1981 AGAIN at Soldier Field. In that game, he had 14 carries for 72 yards and a TD. He was never the same after that.
Imagine if Bart Starr as the head coach would have had James Lofton and Eddie Lee Ivery both under 23 years of age to develop on the same team. It would be the equivalent of having Barry Sanders and Randy Moss together (yes, Lofton was almost that good - if he would have played now he would have been unguardable). Starr makes the playoffs earlier and those two guys lead us to some playoff wins.
He was AMAZING and then to see him down on that crap turf. The 70s Packers were snake bitten and the Bears with all those Walter Payton highlights of him crushing the Packers were a big part of it. Beat. The. Bears.
It's generational in how you view the Bears- that's for damn sure
Like many of you I had the pleasure of watching Fridge run over George Cumby and Kevin Butler hitting a game winning 50+ yard FGs and all the Ditka crap to go along with the fact for a long period of time the Packers flat out sucked.
If we could beat them 50 games in a row it still wouldn't be enough to make up for some of the misery during the 70s and 80s.
There's a whole generation of Packers fans that have never experienced the rivalry nor have they endured any prolonged losing that can really give you more perspective. The Bears will always be their #1 rival and I hope they give thanks by kicking their asses tonight.
Like many of you I had the pleasure of watching Fridge run over George Cumby and Kevin Butler hitting a game winning 50+ yard FGs and all the Ditka crap to go along with the fact for a long period of time the Packers flat out sucked.
If we could beat them 50 games in a row it still wouldn't be enough to make up for some of the misery during the 70s and 80s.
There's a whole generation of Packers fans that have never experienced the rivalry nor have they endured any prolonged losing that can really give you more perspective. The Bears will always be their #1 rival and I hope they give thanks by kicking their asses tonight.
My father never expressed much animosity for the Bears, his brother was a Bear fan (don't know why) and the dislike in my household growing up seemed to center around the Lions. Probably a pretty strong geographical component involved.
I spent close to a dozen years in the Twin Cities during their "heyday" - ie 1998- and still always viewed the Bears as their chief rival.
Maybe it's be because the Vikings don't have the tradition or championships- or maybe because they are just an annoying bunch of frontrunners that have an inferiority complex with the Packers - I dunno
I can respect the Bears as a franchise given their history. The Vikings aren't important enough for me to care that much about them. It's fun when GB beats those guys, but it means more to me when they beat Chicago
Maybe it's be because the Vikings don't have the tradition or championships- or maybe because they are just an annoying bunch of frontrunners that have an inferiority complex with the Packers - I dunno
I can respect the Bears as a franchise given their history. The Vikings aren't important enough for me to care that much about them. It's fun when GB beats those guys, but it means more to me when they beat Chicago
Rivalry football teams are a lot like nature or deer in particular. Every fall prior to mating season the male or buck deer starts to polish his horns preparing for battle with other bucks. This would be preseason. As the rut gets closer they begin fighting for control of territory, regular season. By the time rut or breeding season has begun the battles have been won by the dominant bucks and female or doe deer in the dominant buck's domain are now his for maintaining the natural progression of strongest genetics, playoffs.
Smaller bucks polish their horns but often it is futile and really sets them up for an ass kicking. Occasionally they will win by sparing with younger or injured bucks. This will tend to increase their confidence to the point where they are emboldened to challenge the strongest or dominant bucks. Often this will end badly. 0-4 badly. The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl. They have never been the Dominant Buck.
Meanwhile the Bears in fact have won a couple championships. They have fought all the other bucks within a season to become---Herd Bulls! That is why I respect the Bears in spite of disliking them. They have earned the right to breed the does. Beating them is of greater significance for that reason.
The Viking have had chances where they won several tough wars only to have the King rip their guts out like that Wallace guy who yelled freedom, emotional but harsh.
Genetics are the key to this whole story. Strong lineage can quickly be dispersed by allowing the intrusion of extremely weak genes; Childresses, Snyder, Fontes types. It may take several years or even decades of new gene pools or even eradication to achieve dominance; Detroit, Cleveland, or all time example Cubs (sorry about the baseball ie). Green Bay had a Bull named Ron Wolf that pulled our gene pool up; Reggie, Favre, Holmgren. Today we have that maintained by Ted Thompson even though there is a suspicion of albino trait emerging. But neighboring herds every summer will begin sharping their horns and running around telling everyone how they will be the new Herd Bull. Stay tuned. And guard your does!
Originally Posted by RatPack:
Rivalry football teams are a lot like nature or deer in particular. Every fall prior to mating season the male or buck deer starts to polish his horns preparing for battle with other bucks. This would be preseason. As the rut gets closer they begin fighting for control of territory, regular season. By the time rut or breeding season has begun the battles have been won by the dominant bucks and female or doe deer in the dominant buck's domain are now his for maintaining the natural progression of strongest genetics, playoffs.
Smaller bucks polish their horns but often it is futile and really sets them up for an ass kicking. Occasionally they will win by sparing with younger or injured bucks. This will tend to increase their confidence to the point where they are emboldened to challenge the strongest or dominant bucks. Often this will end badly. 0-4 badly. The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl. They have never been the Dominant Buck.
Meanwhile the Bears in fact have won a couple championships. They have fought all the other bucks within a season to become---Herd Bulls! That is why I respect the Bears in spite of disliking them. They have earned the right to breed the does. Beating them is of greater significance for that reason.
The Viking have had chances where they won several tough wars only to have the King rip their guts out like that Wallace guy who yelled freedom, emotional but harsh.
Genetics are the key to this whole story. Strong lineage can quickly be dispersed by allowing the intrusion of extremely weak genes; Childresses, Snyder, Fontes types. It may take several years or even decades of new gene pools or even eradication to achieve dominance; Detroit, Cleveland, or all time example Cubs (sorry about the baseball ie). Green Bay had a Bull named Ron Wolf that pulled our gene pool up; Reggie, Favre, Holmgren. Today we have that maintained by Ted Thompson even though there is a suspicion of albino trait emerging. But neighboring herds every summer will begin sharping their horns and running around telling everyone how they will be the new Herd Bull. Stay tuned. And guard your does!
The Vikings problem isn't attaining Dominant Buck status....it's maintaining.
