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Originally Posted by Caveman:
I hope he has lots in the tank

Im not going to have any expectations of Peppers so anything he gives us

will be a pleasant surprise.

 

Im skeptical why the Bears (with a worse D) kicked him to the curb and there didnt seem to be a big market for him...

 

I just Trust Ted that it was a worthwhile investment

I think they kicked him to the curb, because he had a huge cap number and salary he was due, over 18M this year.  They could have tried to re-negotiate and maybe they did, Peppers knew the Bears aren't going to win anytime soon, and said no on the renegotiation.  He knows that would mean his release and he would be able to sign where he wanted, presumably to WIN.  

 

Having said all that, we'll see what he can provide, he's a "name", and has talent, but is getting older.  Hopefully, he can show some leadership and win some 1 on battles.  

Originally Posted by PackLandVA:

I don't think the Bears were stupid at all for letting Peppers go.  His cap # was way to high for the production he had given them last year.  They basically got Jared Allen  and about $7 million in cap space for the price of Peppers.  And Allen in two years younger.  I think they made a good move.  Not great, but good.

They had to make that move, but they are being charged $8.66 million this year in cap space for him.  He would have cost them $18 million if he stayed.  This is not a mosquito bite, it is a world of hurt.  They screwed up big time with the original contract which cannot be described in any way as a "good move".

Green Crusty

 

Are you saying it would've been better for the Bears to keep Peppers and pay $18 million for 2014???  The contract came back to bite them, no doubt.  But they made a bad situation better.  They saved $10 million by releasing him and only have to pay Jared Allen $3 million this year.  The extra money allowed them to sign a serviceable backup Center who could be a starter if needed.

 

I'm not suggesting it was a brilliant move.  But it certainly wasn't a bad move.  They took a bad situation and made it better, IMO.

They saved some cap space this year by kicking a $12M pay day down the road for one year. I think they were totally justifiable in cutting JP based on his number, but not to double that cost commitment for a slightly better, slightly younger version. The Bears are quite committed to the "win now" approach for a team that's not ready to "win now."

We agree that the original deal was bad.  I get your point about cap savings by cutting him after the damage was done, just don't gloss over the $8.6 million cap charge this year.  IL Pack Fan  has it that they compounded their problem by signing Allen.  $15.5 million over the next two years guaranteed is too much.  

 

This is a non-malpractice move, but not a good move.  They should have sucked it up this year and made provisions for the  future instead of adding another player on the decline to replace a bad deal.

Originally Posted by Green Crustacean:

..., just don't gloss over the $8.6 million cap charge this year. 

 

There's no glossing over the cap hit.  They have that $8.6 whether they cut him or not.  It's the other $10 million they don't pay.  This is not rocket science.

 

I think cutting him was the right move to make, and I don't think signing Allen was horrible.  If you disagree, I'm fine fine with it. 

 

 

Last edited by PackLandVA
Originally Posted by PackLandVA:
Originally Posted by Green Crustacean:

..., just don't gloss over the $8.6 million cap charge this year. 

 

There's no glossing over the cap hit.  They have that $8.6 whether they cut him or not.  It's the other $10 million they don't pay.  This is not rocket science. surgery

FTFY

 
Originally Posted by Green Crustacean:

 $15.5 million over the next two years guaranteed is too much.  

 

Especially for a player that stated he was going to retire

 

Last edited by Boris
Originally Posted by Orlando Wolf:
Poorly run organizations let go of good players all the time.

I know i'm just picking gnats here, but that's a pretty lazy statement.  Well run organizations let go of good players quite often as well.  Difference is, well run organizations let them go because they want to much.  Poorly run organizations let them go because they cost to much.  

Originally Posted by KonKrete:

       
Freely admit to being some what of an ass here in the first place  but you did not say great, you said good.  There is a difference.  And if you wish to change the bar, it still doesn't apply to the Bears in this instance.  The Julius Peppers the Panthers let go was great.  The Julius Peppers the Bears let go is good.

       


Good, great you make the call.

seems as though the Packers have several players whose talents are more specific to this new Elephant end they are going to be running. Peppers, Datone Jones, Perry, Neal, and Clay all appear to be available for that position. So maybe they are just going run the Herd out there to put pressure on the QB. Third and long will probably be five elephants and six DBs. May not need an ILB after all.

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