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3 games. 3 solid performances.

Rating the Lions (McGinn):

You’d be hard-pressed to come up with a negative play for the left side of David Bakhtiari and Lane Taylor. Like Bakhtiari, Taylor didn’t allow a pressure or β€œbad” run. The Lions’ four-man rotation at DT isn’t bad. However, on play after play, Taylor just blocked his man, run or pass. In August, teams had success getting on his edge. The Lions kept trying to bull rush Taylor, but he was too thick and wouldn’t be taken back very far.

Sitton was/is a Pro Bowl player, it's too early to say Taylor has replaced him. That said, it seems like a pretty solid move to free up some cap space. I think most were in agreement that this move would only be worth it if there was no noticeable drop-off in production. So far there hasn't been. Again, too early to say he's "replaced" Sitton, but he seems to have replaced Sitton's production. 

There are/were a lot of people waiting for the guy to fail.  Both some fans and those in the media. 

You are right - 3 games in it's hard to say he's fully replaced Sitton and he may never play to that level.  However, he's been dependable in the passing game and very good in the running game.  

Far from a liability for sure - as some had predicted. 

When in doubt I'll trust TT.  He's made some questionable moves over the years, but more often than not the guy makes the best choice for the team and it works out. 

chickenboy posted:

No doubt Taylor has played well but if this evolves into a 'I told you so' on the Sitton release, I still would not agree with that decision as I suspect the depth that Taylor (or Sitton) will need to provide down the road would be nice.

I will also add that I think the team could handle a pouty, pissy Sitton if he rode the pine.

Yeah, that would be a good use of cap space and do you really think Sitton is going ride the pine or take a pay cut to be depth?  Use your ****ing head.

Henry posted:

 do you really think Sitton is going ride the pine or take a pay cut to be depth?  Use your ****ing head.

This.

Lots of people were surprised by how fast the Sitton move went down. My belief is they told Josh that Taylor was going to be the starter in game 1, but they valued Josh and wanted him to stick around as the 6th OL. Sitton said no thanks, trade me or cut me. His agent leaked this which limited the Packers position for trade... and then Josh and his agent were able to cash in on the Bears deal.

Tschmack posted:

The team has more pressing issues right now than OL depth 

Can't wait for the "they should have resigned Davon House or Casey Hayward" crowd to chime in 

Casey Hayward is second in the league with 3 INTs, which is 1 more INT than GB has as a team. Based on the first 3 weeks of the season, which obviously is an insanely small sample size, if there is anything to argue it is that!

Tschmack posted:

The team has more pressing issues right now than OL depth 

Can't wait for the "they should have resigned Davon House or Casey Hayward" crowd to chime in 

Davon House - no. However, Casey Hayward was consistently ranked as one of the best slot CBs in the league. You don't want him covering the Diggs, Jeffries, or Julio Jones types, but he had a skill set that worked well against guys like Golden Tate (or Randall Cobb). Whether that's worth 15 million over 3 years is the question. You can't pay everyone.

It is worth it to ask if you'd rather have Heyward and an extra 5 million or Randall Cobb?

After having a terrific rookie year, many are forgetting Hayward then sustained a number of injuries who a number of scouts felt he lost some speed and wasn't quite the same. Agree that he had a nice 2015 season but the 2 years prior to that I thought he was just ok. Happy for him he's off to a great start. But like Davon House, who is dealing with yet another nagging injury, these guys weren't exactly Cal Ripken. 

Hayward's value will always be questionable b/c he can't play outside.  Better put, he's a pro bowler in the slot playing against #3 WRs, but when asked to play outside against top WRs, he struggles.  Slot CB has value but you don't pay those guys premium money.  

Back to Lane........hell of a start for him.  I think this is what TT realized: Sitton may be top 5 guard, but the difference between a top 5 guard and average isn't enough to warrant a $6m salary.  Think WAR in baseball.  A guards WAR is probably the lowest on the team (ahead of punter and maybe kicker).  Still would have liked to get something in return for him though......

Tschmack posted:
No one expected the rash of injuries at the DB position. That's why the Hayward banter is silly. Coulda shoulda woulda armchair GMs crack me up. Makes for good sports talk radio though.

I've posted (half-jokingly) that the Packers should have kept Heyward. It sounds nice until you look at his contract, not great value considering the other CB's they have (when healthy).

 

TT made the right call with Sitton. I think fans would have been more approving if they had been able to trade him but oh well. More cap space to lock up Bak and others; Lane Taylor has been solid. Long term, and this is speculation, I think they'd like to move Bulaga inside to OG and roll with Bak and Spriggs on the ends.

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chickenboy posted:

No doubt Taylor has played well but if this evolves into a 'I told you so' on the Sitton release, I still would not agree with that decision as I suspect the depth that Taylor (or Sitton) will need to provide down the road would be nice.

I will also add that I think the team could handle a pouty, pissy Sitton if he rode the pine.

I agree with chicken's observation

chickenboy posted:

No doubt Taylor has played well but if this evolves into a 'I told you so' on the Sitton release, I still would not agree with that decision as I suspect the depth that Taylor (or Sitton) will need to provide down the road would be nice.

I will also add that I think the team could handle a pouty, pissy Sitton if he rode the pine.

A player that is viewed as a leader by teammates, who is oppositional to coaches & management, is a drag on the entire team. Almost worse than a TO or Dez, who are crazy enough acting that players know it & don't really listen to them. Guys like Sitton are more subversive and can have more negative effect on younger teammates.  

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