NBA Draft and Free Agency

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Intersesting start...

Regarding Howard, if Lasry/Edens want Howard, it's going to happen. No one thinks this guys a max guy... Of course not! But he's a bit more valuable than Bogut. He's not a 20 minute a night guy. 

And max dollars shouldn't scare anyone anymore. Not with these owners. The arena has shovels in the ground- they need to make a splash. It's as much a business deal as a basketball deal. 

That said, if it doesn't happen it's fine by me. Rumors abound that Monroe's on the market. Plenty of suitors I think. Maybe even Cleveland. Swap for a shooter? Good enough for me. 

Min the meantime, how far has Derrick Rose and the Bulls fallen??? He was the MVP, they won 60 games and almost took LeBron down in the playoffs. 4 years later the team is gutted and he's shipped to New York. Wow...

Shopping Monroe: http://hoopshype.com/team/milwaukee-bucks/

Music City posted:

Regarding Howard, if Lasry/Edens want Howard, it's going to happen. No one thinks this guys a max guy... Of course not! But he's a bit more valuable than Bogut. He's not a 20 minute a night guy. 

And max dollars shouldn't scare anyone anymore. Not with these owners. The arena has shovels in the ground- they need to make a splash. It's as much a business deal as a basketball deal. 

That said, if it doesn't happen it's fine by me. Rumors abound that Monroe's on the market. Plenty of suitors I think. Maybe even Cleveland. Swap for a shooter? Good enough for me. 

Min the meantime, how far has Derrick Rose and the Bulls fallen??? He was the MVP, they won 60 games and almost took LeBron down in the playoffs. 4 years later the team is gutted and he's shipped to New York. Wow...

And basically shipped to the Knicks for spare parts. Trade was Robin Lopez, guard Jose Calderon and guard Jerian Grant to Chicago, which shipped guard Justin Holiday, Rose and a 2017 second-round pick back to the Knicks.

Seems like Boston is looking for someone like Hayward or Parker or Middleton for the #3 pick.  No way I  make that deal. 

Rose going to NYK is such a Knicks type desperation move.  The Bulls are Jimmy Butler's team now.   

Would like to see Milwaukee get a shooter or another big man 

I think position of need is point guard, but will not be best player available at the Buck's draft position.

I don't think MCW is the answer.

I don't watch the Bucks much anymore, but I would go out of my way to watch Sabonis develop.  I think the Bucks will draft Poeltl though because they miss Randy Breuer

I really think they need to let Giannis run the point.  Nobody could defend the guy at the 1 guard  position and he became a triple double machine. 

They still need another guard - preferably a guy that can shoot. Maybe Vaughn is that guy and makes the leap?  

Still need another big guy.  Such a shame Larry Sanders melted down as he would be the perfect fit for this team and their style of play 

Agree on Sanders, a great fit for their style - where Monroe is an awful fit. Hopefully they get lucky and move him tonight. 

Just keep Kidd out of the personnel decisions. Don't need anymore long point guards that can't shoot or create. 

Guessing it's a big man tonight. Davis seems like a good fit. 

I for one am not giving up on MCW. He still has enormous upside, if he's used correctly. 

That he'll ever be a great PG is certainly an illusion. But a specialist combo G with good defensive instincts? He could really thrive in that environment. He learns to post up, starts using his athleticism? Now you have something. 

They need shooting. They'll get some from within, but they need some from without too. 

HUH??????????

http://defpen.com/pistons-bucks-matthew-dellavedova/

Hoopshype had their list:

http://hoopshype.com/2016/06/22/nba-mock-draft-2016/

This would be a huge net loss

Oh good grief no... They don't need 2 picks in THIS draft.

Although, if the player named is Isaiah Thomas? Hmmmm.... 

I love the "comparisons" in that mock.  Coincidentally every foreign player's game is exactly like that of a different foreign player.  WEIRD!  And every white player coincidentally plays like other white players!  Henry Ellenson isn't like Al Horford at all, but way like Troy Murphy!  There's nothing in Stephen Zimmerman's game that makes you think of Roy Hibbert or Tyson Chandler.  But Cole Aldrich?  HELL TO THE YES.  I mean, look at that skin color, mid range game.

You talk ****, but that is exactly how I build my consensus boards.  

Athletes and hustlers.

Hammond likes his tall guys with long arms...

Aussie Freak, 'ey?

He's completely made of elbows.  

Hope he really is 19

Thon and  Giannis' combined wingspan is equivalent to the distance between Wausau and Rhinelander. honest 

Yeah, if he's really 19 then he'll be a contribute about the same time as the Bucks current of youguns will be leading the Parade past the new Arena... 

Thunder deal Ibaka to Magc for Oladipo,  Sabonis, and Ersan... 

Kinda thought Oladipo would be further along. On the Thinder he might be pretty valuable. 

Pretty interesting guy... like Giannis, he's highly intelligent and works his a$$ off. 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_...ntional-path-pay-off

Prior to the draft I am not sure anyone had heard much about Thon Maker.  Then again, very few heard of Giannis either. 

Outside of Joe Alexander, Hammonds has done pretty well with the first round picks and some of them were like this one- gambles. 

i was hoping Uhlis would drop to the Bucks at 36.

Thon Maker draft profile

Malcolm Brogdon draft profile

Patrick McCaw draft profile

Sold the 38th pick

God I hate this draft and trade ****.  I was just starting to get excited about Patrick McCaw when the Bucks go and trade him to the GS Warriors for "financial considerations".

Seriously, for cash!?

Mark my words, if Patrick McCaw goes on to be an NBA hall-of-famer I'll be pissed.

And if he goes on to be career D leaguer?

I'll get over it.

That's a pretty good trade for the Thunder.  I like Ibaka a lot but he's in the last year of his deal and basically the Thunder got Oladipo straight up AND the rights to Sabonis who I think will be a solid pro player.   Assuming Durant returns I think OKC is still one of the three best teams in the league. 

7' 1" and look at this crossover....got some skills 

The general consensus is that the Bucks are out of their minds. 

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/...ender-brandon-ingram

Milwaukee Bucks: F

As inexplicable as the Papagiannis pick was, the Thon Maker pick was worse. The Kings are always going to be the Kings as long as Vlade and Vivek are in charge, but the Bucks could actually be good. You can't just throw away top–10 picks like they're nothing. 

There's a way to see Maker as a case of the Bucks doubling down on the weirdness of their roster and putting together the most science–fiction lineup possible, and maybe that's how it'll play out, but I don't see it. Maker should have been a second rounder, not a top 10 pick. He has raw tools, but not many skills, and this week there were allegations that he's three years older than he claims. These are not good signs. Really, almost every move Milwaukee's made since drafting Giannis and Jabari—trading for MCW, signing Greg Monroe, trading for Grievis Vasquez, inexplicably drafting Rashad Vaughn—has been a failure. Worse, most of these moves were clearly bad ideas at the time.

Mostly, it bums me out because Giannis is absolutely for real, and Milwaukee should be one of the most entertaining teams in the league. But whoever is running things is screwing this up.

General Consensus.

Yeah, and a while back Chad Ford (ESPN basketball "guru" ) said Giannis was  a  " Expensive 2 year D-League Player" or something to that effect. 

Let's wait and see.