Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread

El-Typhoon-Bong posted:

What do white women from Wisconsin think about him?

Wouldn't know how to deal with an intelligent white man, white women in Wisconsin only have enough intelligence to make black men their specialty. Women in the south know how to treat white men though, it's just the "Goallines" they treat as field hands. 

Not really PFT garbage. PFT actually calls in to question Schefter's report. 

I'm betting Shefter's source is a smokescreen.

Okay here is my uneducated guess as to how Round 1 shakes out:

1. Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, TAMU
2. 49ers: Malik Hooker, S, Ohio St.
3. Bears: Jamal Adams, S, LSU
4. Jaguars: Jonathan Allen, DT, Alabama
5. Titans (from Rams): Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
6. Jets: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
7. Chargers: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio St.
8. Panthers: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
9. Bengals: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
10. Bills: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio St.
11. Saints: Charles Harris, DE, Missouri
12. Browns (from Eagles): Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
13. Cardinals: Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
14. Eagles (from Vikings): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
15. Colts: Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
16. Ravens: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
17. Redskins: Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt
18. Titans: OJ Howard, TE, Alabama
19. Buccaneers: Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida St.
20. Broncos: Ryan Ramzcyk, OT, Wisconsin
21. Lions: David Njoku, TE, Miami
22. Dolphins: Forrest Lamp, OL, Western Kentucky
23. Giants: John Ross, WR, Washington
24. Raiders: Budda Baker, S, Washington
25. Texans: Evan Engram, TE, Ole Miss
26. Seahawks: Demarcus Walker, DE, Florida St.
27. Chiefs: TJ Watt, LB, Wisconsin
28. Cowboys: Adoree Jackson, CB, USC
29. Packers: Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU
30. Steelers: Jordan Willis, OLB, Kansas St.
31. Falcons: Marcus Maye, S, Florida
32. Saints from (Patriots): Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

White is probably the only true #1 CB after Conley, Lattimore, Jackson, and Sid Jones. He has the flexibility to play inside and outside, the ball skills, the aggressiveness, and the instincts to play early on opposite Randall. He has punt return skills as well. 

With the exception of Garrett going to Cleveland at number 1. The next virtually certain lock is Fournette going to Jax at 4. 

I would still take Humphrey over White at 29. I'd take Awuzie over White at 29. I'd take Watt over White at 29. Assuming of course all three are available at 29. 

I think we will see some surprises. The media overrates some guys and underrates some guys. Guys like Walker and Engram are badly underrated IMO, Walker had 26 sacks over he last 2 seasons! He has that kind of Michael Bennett flexibility, being a power End and speed interior player, that I think they grab him. 

To me, based on what we've seen with Thompson the last couple years, they're looking for flexibility. Guys who can play 3 downs on D at various positions. Humphrey is an outside corner only and he struggles with the deep ball, he's not going to slide down to the Slot and cover Julian Edelman in a pinch. Awuzie fits the bill also, I could see that, but I think White is a better player overall. 

White never met a tackle he was in a hurry to make. He's not helping you out much with run support. He's a better pure cover guy than Humphrey or Awuzie. But not by much. And certainly not enough of a gap to overlook White's 190lb frame and reluctance to get dirty in the run game. 

I think Humphrey is gone well before 29 though. 

From the always-controversial PFF:

[White] missed just five tackles, ranking in the top 21 percent of all cornerbacks with at least 500 defensive snaps this year.

Improved tremendously in coverage from 2015 to 2016. His NFL passer rating allowed dropped from 114.4 to 60.6, his touchdowns allowed dropped from six to three, and his completion percentage allowed dropped from 57.7 percent to 41.7 percent.

On Humphrey:

Fairly sure tackler, missing just six tackles throughout 2016.

As good as he is with the play in front of him, he definitely struggled on deep passes. Gave up an average of 16.3 yards per catch in 2016, and 17.4 in 2015.

On Awuzie:

Improved at getting his hands on the ball on in 2016, with pass breakups going from five in 2015 to nine this past year.

Needs to improve his technique as a tackler. Far too often he goes in high and looking for a big hit. Missed 33 tackles over the past three years and will likely miss even more against bigger, stronger NFL receivers.

It seems as though Humphrey's best fit will be in a Zone scheme. He's great with the ball in front of him, maybe struggles with the deep ball. Awuzie seems like maybe he would fit better in a Zone scheme also, but does offer scheme and position flexibility. White seems to be the best fit from a scheme standpoint, he's aggressive and can be put on an island with receivers. 


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Marlon Humphrey ranks better than the draft class average in every major category.

Tweet from PFF was posted one month ago. So, there's that. I like Awuzie. A lot. I think GB could trade down a little and still get him. 

Keep coming back to Watt being the safest possible pick at 29. There might be player that may end up being better than Watt. But you have a pretty good idea what Watt's floor is, which is pretty high. 

I'm not trying to say Humphrey isn't good, I don't think he's a guy you put on an island against Odell Beckham though. We already have 2 tall/long CBs that struggle to cover deep (Gunter, House), we need someone with Shield's/Tramon's ability to play aggressive with receivers and stick with them all over the field, often times without Safety help. Neither of those guys seemed to particularly enjoy run support either. We have good tackling Safeties who can play the ball in front of them, we need to solve the shortage of good downfield coverage from our CB position. 

Tweets found on internet:

"Fact of the day. Jabrill Peppers has more failed drug tests than wins against Ohio State"

Minute later....

"Fact of the day. Gareon Conley has more rape investigations than OSU had points vs Clemson"

The way defensive players are dropping it might be an all offensive round one. 

Grave Digger posted:

Okay here is my uneducated guess as to how Round 1 shakes out:

1. Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, TAMU
2. 49ers: Malik Hooker, S, Ohio St.
3. Bears: Jamal Adams, S, LSU
4. Jaguars: Jonathan Allen, DT, Alabama
5. Titans (from Rams): Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
6. Jets: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
7. Chargers: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio St.
8. Panthers: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
9. Bengals: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
10. Bills: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio St.
11. Saints: Charles Harris, DE, Missouri
12. Browns (from Eagles): Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
13. Cardinals: Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
14. Eagles (from Vikings): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
15. Colts: Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
16. Ravens: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
17. Redskins: Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt
18. Titans: OJ Howard, TE, Alabama
19. Buccaneers: Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida St.
20. Broncos: Ryan Ramzcyk, OT, Wisconsin
21. Lions: David Njoku, TE, Miami
22. Dolphins: Forrest Lamp, OL, Western Kentucky
23. Giants: John Ross, WR, Washington
24. Raiders: Budda Baker, S, Washington
25. Texans: Evan Engram, TE, Ole Miss
26. Seahawks: Demarcus Walker, DE, Florida St.
27. Chiefs: TJ Watt, LB, Wisconsin
28. Cowboys: Adoree Jackson, CB, USC
29. Packers: Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU
30. Steelers: Jordan Willis, OLB, Kansas St.
31. Falcons: Marcus Maye, S, Florida
32. Saints from (Patriots): Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

White is probably the only true #1 CB after Conley, Lattimore, Jackson, and Sid Jones. He has the flexibility to play inside and outside, the ball skills, the aggressiveness, and the instincts to play early on opposite Randall. He has punt return skills as well. 

Hmmmm. I think some team will draft a QB in round one.

when has it ever happened that no QB was drafted in the first round?

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