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Mixon will go in late round 2 I'm betting. Randy Gregory, with all his drug issues, still went in round 2. Mixon's crime was obviously worse than Gregory's, but I think some team will make a big show of saying they were disturbed by the incident, but they've done enough homework to make them feel Mixon is a changed man and he's so sorry and blah blah blah. 

There's nothing a team can say about Conley to smooth over drafting him at all and paying him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Maybe he's a rapist, maybe he isn't, but that lack of clarity will scare teams I'm betting.

"As much as I like Reddick and think he could finally solve the inside linebacker problem"

Joe Thomas was fantastic last year in his role.    I think he can be a solid 3 down guy, decent on run downs and one of the top at the position on 3rd down. 

I'm almost over over Ryan, Hawk 2.0 with cinder block feet, but it is his year 3 so we shall see.   Hopefully Martinez makes a jump this year and solidifies the position with Thomas. 

I think Ryan and Martinez are upgrades over 2014 Hawk and Jones but that's only because they are young and haven't had their collective limitations cloud their youthful hopes and dreams. But it's coming. You can't have two reactionary guys next to each other in the middle. It doesn't work. Martinez strikes me as the guy that might make the jump to active vs. reactive. Hawk was helped by Bishops seek and destroy mentality. Hawk and Jones were the same guy. 

By 2014 Brad Jones was sitting in front of his locker after games talking to his socks for guidance. He was a broken quivering mess. 

CUPackFan posted:

Ryan was actually pretty solid last year.  He's never going to be that all-pro we want in the middle but he's better than what we've had since Des Bishop was playing here (pre-injury).  

Ryan certainly had his moments, mostly in the run game. Heck, I think he even made a couple of tackles on the opponents side of the line of scrimmage, something I thought had been outlawed in GB when the Pack drafted AJ Hawk.

However, Ryan is a pretty big liability in the passing game. He lacks quickness and has shown nothing as a blitzer. 

Thomas' game is about the exact opposite. Decent in coverage, easily overwhelmed in the running game.

As for Martinez, he was given the keys to the D to begin the season, named a starter, praised for his smarts, etc. By the end of the year, he hardly got off the bench. Perhaps it was due to his injury, but alas he showed very little last year. 

Joe Thomas was really bad in the last game of the year and somehow was still starting over Blake Martinez.  The Packers need at ILB has been under-rated.  I think OLB and ILB is equal in terms of which should be given priority, but with Matthews, Perry and Fackrell it wouldn't be surprising if Thompson sees ILB as a more significant need area.

PackerJoe posted:

Joe Thomas was really bad in the last game of the year and somehow was still starting over Blake Martinez.  The Packers need at ILB has been under-rated.  I think OLB and ILB is equal in terms of which should be given priority, but with Matthews, Perry and Fackrell it wouldn't be surprising if Thompson sees ILB as a more significant need area.

So you saw a whole game?  That and PFF should tell an accurate story.

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PackerJoe posted:

Carr is a real good player.  Put a beatdown on the Big 10 this season.  Only thing that makes me think the Packer's won't draft him is the 40-time (4.61).  For the longest time it seemed like the 40-time meant nothing to Thompson but last year it was pretty obvious that the Packers were looking for fast guys at the offensive skill positions and the defensive backfield.  I'm guessing that will continue on defense in this draft after that performance against the Falcons, but not so sure it will continue at WR and RB. 

Austin played high school WR with my nephew in Benicia CA. Good kid. Smart ass. He's not 4.61. He's slower. Tough to cover. High football IQ. And he's one tough thick skinned fighter. You have to really beat him to beat him. He has no quit. 

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I'm sure the Packers (like most teams) will do whatever homework they can on his charges, but you have to wonder how tempted TT would be to draft him at the end of the 3rd (if he's there):

Buzz builds for Gareon Conley being picked in round three

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No one currently expects Ohio State cornerback Gareon Conley to be selected in round one, given a rape allegation that likely won’t be resolved in his favor by Thursday night. Currently, the thinking is that someone will take a flier on him before the conclusion of Friday night’s proceedings.

Per a league source, the current buzz has Conley going at some point before the end of the third round.

The risk is obvious; Conley could be charged, prosecuted, and ultimately convicted of a first-degree felony. But he also could be exonerated, either by the alleged victim not pursuing the case or prosecutors deciding based on the witness testimony from the hotel room where the rape allegedly occurred that Conley would be able to establish sufficient reasonable doubt to make a trial a losing proposition.

At some point as the seven rounds unfold, the potential reward will outweigh the risk. The current thinking is that this will happen at some point before the end of round three.

If he’s guilty, he shouldn’t be drafted at all. If he’s innocent, his draft stock shouldn’t be affected at all. His current draft stock reflects the reality that few know exactly what happened in that Cleveland hotel room and, for now, no one knows what will happen moving forward.

ChilliJon posted:

Austin played high school WR with my nephew in Benicia CA. Good kid. Smart ass. He's not 4.61. He's slower. Tough to cover. High football IQ. And he's one tough thick skinned fighter. You have to really beat him to beat him. He has no quit. 

James Jones ran a 4.60 and they took him R3. I think they're looking for the football IQ, the attitude, the route running and understanding of routes, etc. from their receivers first and foremost. Pure Slot receivers aren't that common, guys like Carr, Edelman, Welker, etc. aren't a dime a dozen like big/tall/fast outside WRs. I'm not saying they for sure with draft Carr, but he fits the mold. Not all Slot guys are burners either, Julian Edelman ran a 4.52, Danny Amendola ran a 4.58, Wes Welker ran a 4.65, Jamison Crowder ran 4.56, Jarvis Landry ran 4.77, etc. They all have better play speed, but really it's about your quickness, route running, etc. Carr would have tied for 3rd in the 3-cone at the combine (6.70) had he been invited.  

The media games are in full swing. 

NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah says a number of teams are targeting Alabama LB Reuben Foster around pick No. 11.

This is important, as some think Foster might drop out of round one. Jeremiah mocks him to the Saints at No. 11. Rotoworld's Josh Norris has said the 49ers and Packers have shown strong interest, and San Francisco might move up to the end of round one from their early second round pick. Many coaches and evaluators believe Foster is a top two talent in this class.
Source: NFL.com
Apr 27 - 11:13 AM

WalterFootball's Charlie Campbell reports that the Packers are extremely interested in Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon and might even take him in Round 1.

The Packers were one of the teams that hosted Mixon for a pre-Draft visit, along with the Bengals, Broncos, Jaguars, Saints, Raiders, and Buccaneers. We're still thinking that Mixon will drop into Round 2, but at this point, late-Round 1 is very much in play.
Apr 26 - 2:48 PM


Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline reports that the Packers are "gearing up" to select Wisconsin edge rusher T.J. Watt at pick No. 29.

The Cowboys, Lions, Patriots and Redskins have all additionally shown interest in Watt during the draft process. Several scouts during the evaluating process have referred to the 6-foot-4, 252-pounder as a more explosive version of Clay Matthews, while another went so far as to say that he gave Watt a higher grade than he did older brother -- and current NFL superstar -- J.J. Watt when the elder Watt was coming out of college. He could potentially land in Round 1 and figures to be off the board early in Round 2 if he is still around.
Apr 25 - 5:43 PM
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Maynard posted:

I'll have a really hard time rooting for the Packers if they select Mixon.  That might be it for me and the NFL.

I hear what you're saying but how is he any different than Letroy Guion. If anything, Guion is worse. Mixon punched a woman after a verbal exchange in a public cafe. That's bad enough, but Guion has multiple domestic violence charges (including punching the mother of his children in the jaw) as well as stalking charges. Guion had to pay restitution on one of the charges in exchange for getting the other ones dropped.

 

MichiganPacker posted:

I hear what you're saying but how is he any different than Letroy Guion. If anything, Guion is worse. Mixon punched a woman after a verbal exchange in a public cafe. That's bad enough, but Guion has multiple domestic violence charges (including punching the mother of his children in the jaw) as well as stalking charges. Guion had to pay restitution on one of the charges in exchange for getting the other ones dropped.

So just because we have Guion on the team then we shouldn't take a stand against adding more dirtbags to the roster?

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