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During the Hags training camp (especially the first couple weeks), insiders wondered whether Phat Eddie ® would even make the 53.

Now I see why. I completely get that their OL did him no favors yesterday, but Lacy's burst he used to have in 2013-2015 just looks gone.

5 carries, 3 yards, a 0.8 yard avg.

If Rawls gets healthy and Chris Carson keeps developing, wouldn't shock me to see Eddie inactive by October. Amazing to see what's happened in under 2 years.

IIRC, he had +4 yards on his first carry. 

He needs to be in the i with his toes at 7. Give him some space to get up a head of steam to use his mass. Unfortunately, that is a long gone style / formation for the NFL running game. 

Hopefully he banked his contract(s) well and can continue to care for his family.

Eddie was a beast his first two seasons. Even after he started really packing on the pounds you could see he had still had rare talent for a big back. Wonderful feet and could dish it out. I hope he has invested his money well.  

I don't have any hard feelings towards Lacy.  Except for the one year he came in out of shape he gave his all and was productive.  I think he would be with the Packers if the Seahawks hadn't offered him over 4m.  I thought the Seahawks seemed a strange place for him given they have some backs already, Lacy needs the ball 18-20 times a game and I don't see him getting those kinds of touches.

I know he was a 2nd round pick, but looking back at the 2013 Draft.....man did that first round produce a bunch of sh!tty pick!! Boatloads of bad, overvalued players.

And speaking of the second round, weren't a bunch of X4 posters thrilled the Steelers took Bell instead of Lacy, especially after year 1.

Looks like Pittsburgh got it right.

Bell hasn't exactly been the picture of health & also has off the field issues too. (Just legalize it already!)

While I agree Bell is a better football player now, I wouldn't say either team "got it right" as Eddie was better the first couple years

But when an ankle injury in October led to season-ending surgery, all his hard work was quietly erased.

"I literally couldn't do anything for months," Lacy says. "I obviously just got bigger. I can't do nothing about it. All you can do is lay down and eat. What are you supposed to do?"

It remains calories in and calories out and weight gain is not inevitable.

"He chuckled at first, but the collage also stung. It kept showing up in his feed, an endless cycle of snark, rebooted each day. "It sucks," Lacy says. "It definitely sent me into a funk. I wish I could understand what they get out of it.""

- here's my advice:  close your twitter acccount.  You can live without it.

Toofless posted:

I never believed Eddie was that good. I think running behind our stellar O-line in those years were the biggest keys. 

2013 OL had Evan Dietrich-Smith and Don Barclay as starters, and Bakh was a rookie 4th rounder back then (still had a lot of learning to do, was only starting because of Bulaga's injury).

 

Eddie had talent, and he let it go to waste. Sad.

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Fedya posted:

I think running behind our stellar O-line in those years were the biggest keys. 

Then why did the other RBs not get that kind of production?

Because James starks was maybe the worst #2 in the league 

Tdog posted:

"He chuckled at first, but the collage also stung. It kept showing up in his feed, an endless cycle of snark, rebooted each day. "It sucks," Lacy says. "It definitely sent me into a funk. I wish I could understand what they get out of it.""

- here's my advice:  close your twitter acccount.  You can live without it.

No joke. I get the obsession with social media: it's like gambling. You lose, lose, lose and then hit the jackpot when you get a positive response. And then you're hooked. So, shut it off. You can use your phone for other things than Twitter, Snapchat, etc. Want to get your feelings out and not be mocked? A handwritten journal comes to mind. 

Even today (with this news piece coming out October 2nd), Lacy continues to make excuses about his weight. It's still the "what can you do" "Oh well" mindset that has him shortening his NFL career.

I would still not be surprised to see him cut by Halloween depending on the health of the other RB's and/or a dire team need elsewhere if injuries pile up in Seattle.

He was a healthy scratch last week. He seems to embrace making excuses and at times feeling sorry for himself.

My biggest hope for him is that he invests his money well. He will need to because I think lack of motivation in many areas of his life is going to follow Eddie long after he's done playing.

Excerpt: 

Once he made it to the NFL -- drafted in the second round by the Packers after running for 1,322 yards and 17 touchdowns as a junior, capped by winning Offensive MVP honors in Bama's BCS championship victory over Notre Dame in January 2013 -- Lacy could hardly believe how easy practices were. After his first Packers workout was over, he thought to himself: "This is all we have to do?"

Looking back, he concedes he could have done a better job of pushing to stay closer to his ideal weight. But at the same time, he was succeeding. He was the NFL offensive rookie of the year in 2013. He ran for a combined 2,317 yards his first two seasons, rolling downfield like a bowling ball but with the feet of a dancer. To watch him lower his shoulder into a defender, then pirouette into a balletic spin move, was like seeing a work of football art. At times, he looked like a reincarnation of Jerome Bettis, the Steelers running back who rumbled into the Hall of Fame.

The Packers, though, didn't see it that way. They were initially supportive of Lacy's fight to keep his weight down, but their patience eroded. When Lacy's production dipped in his third year, coach Mike McCarthy made it clear in a season-ending news conference that Lacy could either lose weight or lose playing time. "He's got a lot of work to do," McCarthy said. "His offseason last year was not good enough, and he never recovered from it. He cannot play at the weight he played at this year."

The two cleared the air in private, with McCarthy expressing regret for calling his running back out in a news conference, and Lacy insists now that no hard feelings lingered. He says he was ultimately motivated by the whole thing.

After reading this article it sounds like the problem is that Lacy doesn't think there's anything wrong with being a 267 lb. RB. It sounds like his only problem is with people who criticize him. With that mindset, he's not going to ever get it. Maybe that's okay with him, but it doesn't bode well for his professional future. 

Chicken breast? **** me! The boy is starving for energy. Poor Eddie is suffering with weight issues, because his nutritionist is living in 1968. Most nutritionists are robotic idiots who refuse to keep up with the latest science.

Take away sugar, grains and refined carbs, and replace them with healthy fats and that boy will lose weight like the dickens. And by healthy fats I mean, no seed oils. Only olive oil and animal fats. Imagine eating a steak and losing weight. Or shrimp dipped in butter. And most of all skip a few breakfast and lunch opportunities.

michiganjoe posted:

But when an ankle injury in October led to season-ending surgery, all his hard work was quietly erased.

"I literally couldn't do anything for months," Lacy says. "I obviously just got bigger. I can't do nothing about it. All you can do is lay down and eat. What are you supposed to do?"

It remains calories in and calories out and weight gain is not inevitable.

I think it's more he didn't feel like doing anything rather than he couldn't do anything. I'm sure someone with access to the best nutritionists and personal trainers could have figured out a way to stay active. Pool workouts, rowing machines, etc. - there must have been something that he could have done to burn some calories and stay in shape.

Burn calories? It ain’t about the calories, bro. Eddie is going throw the same battle every other fat person has gone though in America. Being told that if they reduce calories and exercise they will lose weight. As Brian’s mom said in the python movie, “Well, at first”.

And if the fat person cant keep the weight off, well, they didn’t try hard enough, and society demonizes them for it. Bullschit! Eddie lost the weight and gained it back. Why? Because when you are a fat person your body won’t allow you to keep weight off until you deal with it on a hormonal level. When I hear that they are feeding the boy chicken breast, they are dealing in calories, not hormones.

I think it's a great read about a good kid that had to grow up with a ****ty deal. Lacy doesn't owe anyone **** and especially not an explanation. 

I didn't love McCarthy fat shaming him in public when he did it. It's not like anyone is ever confusing MM with a fitness guru. He could have delivered his message directly to Eddie. 

If this football thing doesn't work out it doesn't work out. Eddie strikes me as a guy that could accomplish some good things as a coach. Probably HS. Back home. He's a positive guy that could share a positive message to kids. I will always wish the guy the best. 

Goalline posted:

Chicken breast? **** me! The boy is starving for energy. Poor Eddie is suffering with weight issues, because his nutritionist is living in 1968. Most nutritionists are robotic idiots who refuse to keep up with the latest science.

Take away sugar, grains and refined carbs, and replace them with healthy fats and that boy will lose weight like the dickens. And by healthy fats I mean, no seed oils. Only olive oil and animal fats. Imagine eating a steak and losing weight. Or shrimp dipped in butter. And most of all skip a few breakfast and lunch opportunities.

This here worked for me.   Put on a bunch of weight after an injury.   When I decided enough was enough, I ate bunless burgers, steaks, suasage, eggs and a ton of bacon.   For vegies it was broccoli and spinach salads.  Combined with heavy lifting and a little cardio, the weight melted away.

Now I am back to trying to maintain while eating like ****.  

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ChilliJon posted:

I think it's a great read about a good kid that had to grow up with a ****ty deal. Lacy doesn't owe anyone **** and especially not an explanation. 

I didn't love McCarthy fat shaming him in public when he did it. It's not like anyone is ever confusing MM with a fitness guru. He could have delivered his message directly to Eddie. 

If this football thing doesn't work out it doesn't work out. Eddie strikes me as a guy that could accomplish some good things as a coach. Probably HS. Back home. He's a positive guy that could share a positive message to kids. I will always wish the guy the best. 

I agree with the sentiment that he seems like a good guy and it's his choice if he wants to commit to football or not.  

Where I disagree is with his boss having the option to call him out on weight or not.   When you accept the job of an NFL player, you should have an understanding that your job performance will be publicly scrutinized.  That's the name of the game.   Maybe MM thought, at the time, that this was the best way to motivate him and it's part of his job to do just that.

So if you **** up at work and the COO sends out a company wide e-mail letting everyone know you're ****ing up you chalk it up as utilizing motivational management tools. 

Mike had every right to demand Eddie get it together, ask him if he was seriously invested in getting it together, or if he was looking for a change of scenery. But the only people that should have been part of that discussion is Mike and Eddie. 

BrainDed posted:
Goalline posted:

Chicken breast? **** me! The boy is starving for energy. Poor Eddie is suffering with weight issues, because his nutritionist is living in 1968. Most nutritionists are robotic idiots who refuse to keep up with the latest science.

Take away sugar, grains and refined carbs, and replace them with healthy fats and that boy will lose weight like the dickens. And by healthy fats I mean, no seed oils. Only olive oil and animal fats. Imagine eating a steak and losing weight. Or shrimp dipped in butter. And most of all skip a few breakfast and lunch opportunities.

This here worked for me.   Put on a bunch of weight after an injury.   When I decided enough was enough, I ate bunless burgers, steaks, suasage, eggs and a ton of bacon.   For vegies it was broccoli and spinach salads.  Combined with heavy lifting and a little cardio, the weight melted away.

Now I am back to trying to maintain while eating like ****.  

That’s the recipe along with one other piece of advice. Eat only when you are hungry. If a nutritionist tells you to eat 6 meals a day, punch them in the face. OK, not really, but you might want to find a new one.

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Eddie was a sweet kid and he's got a gentle soul. Not exactly a perfect match for the NFL and it's trappings. I'm with Chilli's take above, he'd be great working with kids based on what little we know about him.

Poor Eddie is suffering with weight issues, because his nutritionist is living in 1968. Most nutritionists are robotic idiots who refuse to keep up with the latest science.

I thought the science was settled. 

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