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NFL's Eddie Lacy In Talks with P90X Creator ... Interested In Training

 

Eddie Lacy is no dummy ... and knows if one of the biggest fitness gurus in the country offers to whip your butt in shape -- you listen. 

TMZ Sports has learned ... Lacy's people have been in touch with P90X creator Tony Horton -- after Tony offered to PERSONALLY train the Green Bay Packers running back. 

Horton -- who's trained all sorts of huge stars, athletes (Ray Lewis) and even politicians (Paul Ryan) -- previously told TMZ Sports he already has a game plan to help Lacy drop his extra weight and get into the best of shape of his life before next season. 

Now, Lacy's people have confirmed the two sides have touched base in the hopes of working something out ... though no agreement has been struck yet. 

Horton says he doesn't want to undermine Green Bay's training plan for Lacy -- but instead, he wants to work WITH the team to get Eddie where he needs to be.

"The Packers will get him ready for the season. My job will be to get the weight off and help him eat better."

So if he gets in great shape, changes his habits, and churns out his 3rd 1,000 yard season in 4 years why would GB let him walk? 1,000 yard rushers don't grow on trees, we waited several years after Ryan Grant petered out to find a legit runner. 

Hungry5 posted:

Weren't most of those food tweets when he was in college still?

Over a 3 year period too: 2011-2013.

Too much was made of those tweets. From what I know about Twitter, he's posting every little thing he is doing. Taking out just the food posts over 3 years and putting them together like that was misleading.

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Must have seen those late night infomercials while he was eating China food .  I love the guy, seems like a really nice person, but he knew the team needed his contributions in a bad way this year and did exactly the opposite of what he should have done during the season.  I'm not pinning my hopes on him for next year.  What would impress me most is if he came to Green Bay for off season training.   I hope they check out where he's at before the draft so they can plan accordingly.

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Players get bigger when they go from college to pros.

From what I recall, Lacy came into camp in 2015 about 7 or 8 lbs over where they wanted him... and as McCarthy stated, Eddie never recovered from that. The ankle injury in week 2 did him no favors with regards to in-season conditioning and the year spiralled away from him. Gash was axed because that and Harris' immaturity happened on his watch.

Pistol GB posted:
Hungry5 posted:

Weren't most of those food tweets when he was in college still?

Over a 3 year period too: 2011-2013.

Too much was made of those tweets. From what I know about Twitter, he's posting every little thing he is doing. Taking out just the food posts over 3 years and putting them together like that was misleading.

Now he's a closet eater.  His twitter is amusing for the tweets that are clearly whoever is running his side deals.  Hopefully they get in his ear this off season (seems to be what's happening).  They have a direct interest in him getting having as strong a 2016 as possible. 

Hungry5 posted:

Players get bigger when they go from college to pros.

From what I recall, Lacy came into camp in 2015 about 7 or 8 lbs over where they wanted him... and as McCarthy stated, Eddie never recovered from that. The ankle injury in week 2 did him no favors with regards to in-season conditioning and the year spiralled away from him. Gash was axed because that and Harris' immaturity happened on his watch.

“Some people can carry a lot of weight, some people can’t,” Lacy said, via ESPN.com. “I’m not the smallest person. Brandon Jacobs wasn’t the smallest person. Jerome Bettis wasn’t the smallest person. Some people can just play like that, not that I’m Jerome Bettis’ weight or nothing like that. I’m just saying, not everybody’s meant to look like Adrian Peterson or somebody like that.”

Lacy said that he’s sure he would hear from General Manager Ted Thompson if his weight was a problem for the team and that it’s “none of my concern” unless he does get such a message. Oct 30th, 2015

Now he has the message, now he has the chance to prove himself.  If he didn't get that message before then, that's a big mark against MM.  That's something the headcoach shouldn't just pass off on the position coach.  That should be direct and to the point, imo. 

 

"When I get on [the scale], it's like, 'He cool,'" Lacy said. "If I'm not, I'm pretty sure I'll hear from the guy upstairs."

Lacy was referring to general manager Ted Thompson, who can fine players for being overweight at the weekly weigh-ins.

edit: It's interesting that Eddie is saying he's more worried about TT with his weight.  I wonder if that might be some of the friction between MM and TT.  MM wanted to start fining 27 and TT brushed it aside. 

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In addition to getting whipped into shape, hopefully what resonates with Lacy is learning how/what/when to eat. Anyone who's ever struggled with weight loss knows losing weight isn't really the issue. It's keeping it off. Sounds like Horton would also teach him a new way of eating. 

FLPACKER posted

Yes, but he didn't gain nearly 30 pounds since college by eating fruit. 

 

My personal theory is there's some nice, little old lady in Green Bay that lives next door to him and loves  to feed him

 

In all seriousness someone needs to talk to his family about healthy eating.  If he's hanging around them in the off season it's going to be real tough to get light.   Again they all seem like super nice people, but they really would benefit by changing their eating habits. 

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Hungry5 posted:

Players get bigger when they go from college to pros.

From what I recall, Lacy came into camp in 2015 about 7 or 8 lbs over where they wanted him... and as McCarthy stated, Eddie never recovered from that. The ankle injury in week 2 did him no favors with regards to in-season conditioning and the year spiralled away from him. Gash was axed because that and Harris' immaturity happened on his watch.

Come on & quit minimizing this guys problem with over eating, he has gained nearly 60 pounds since entering college 6 years ago, without getting any taller, as a SKILL position player!  take a look at this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oh-KdpxivI   compared to this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTEp9g7gs4    He has great feet & plays hard on the field but is in danger of eating himself out of the league if he does not take major steps to control it. 

In all seriousness someone needs to talk to his family about healthy eating.  If he's hanging around them in the off season it's going to be real tough to get light.   Again they all seem like super nice people, but they really would benefit by changing their eating habits. 

Yep. This was from JsOnline in Nov 2015:

The coaching staff at Alabama, according to Wanda (Eddie Lacy's Mom), provided specific weight requirements and dietary restrictions for every player. Lacy, she said, often returned home for the holidays with a list of foods he could and could not eat.

The school put an app on his cellphone that identified acceptable items at various restaurants, including the fast-food chain Wendy's. And in the cafeteria at the football complex, where he ate all his meals, Lacy could only choose from predetermined groups of food.

"He came home one holiday and he was a little heavy; he may have been 10 pounds overweight," Wanda said. "Then he went back and when the season started I was like, 'Oh my god, Eddie. What did they do to you?' He's like — and he was joking — 'They gave me lettuce sandwiches. That's it. That's all I eat, Mom.'

"They slimmed him down really well."

It was a jarring departure from his diet at home, where Lacy and his siblings enjoyed hearty meals prepared mostly by their father.

Lacy loved pork and beans, fried pork chops and fried chicken, and Wanda, who said the family consists of "big people" to begin with, kept buying them because it kept her children, all of whom played sports, in good spirits every night.

But while his brothers learned to cook, absorbing some of the recipes from their father, Lacy had no interest in preparing meals for himself.

"I'm not cooking in a kitchen," his mother recalls Lacy saying, and she encouraged him to get a chef.

A playful indifference to cooking morphed into a legitimate problem after the Packers chose Lacy, who weighed 231 pounds at the scouting combine, in the second round of the 2013 draft.

Alone in Green Bay, where he was more than 900 miles from the structure of Alabama and over 1,000 miles from the comfort of his childhood home, Lacy had the opportunity to consistently choose his own meals.

"Then the pounds just started to creep up," Wanda said. "Does it bother him? I would say it does, now it does. Because before he's a big kid so the weight acted like a cushion when he's being hit, you know?

"Now that he sees that this is not what they're wanting from him, he and his brother and even his sister talk about it a lot, what he has to do to eliminate the problem, to not be as thick. He doesn't want to lose all the weight....He just doesn't want to be 250, 260."

I was being sarcastic....many on here swore that Lacy's weight was not an issue & pointed to MM's statement to validate their point. I said at the time that coaches adhere to the "Vito Corleone" philosophy....never tell anyone outside the family what you are really thinking. 

I think MM thought they could get Eddie back into shape early on. He mentioned he showed up to camp on the business end of heavy, got dinged up early, and that really put him in a spot he was never able to recover from. 

If Eddie shows up to OTAs weighing anything above 230 he's going to get his ass handed to him. 

I think his perfect weight is 225-230 but he has to be in shape. Even carrying 260 he was still quick enough on his feet to make guys miss. He just had zero ability to go more than 20 yards without gassing himself. 

YATittle posted:

The most embarrassing thing was that break away run in Arizona where he got gassed and didn't get into the end zone. Eddie from the two previous years would've scored.

Looking back at 2015. The worst part was Eddie knocking out 14 yards and then being gassed for his next two carries. The anomaly was Dallas. Maybe he threw down a bakers dozen iced cookies and some 5 hour energy. 

The thing about the jaunt in 'Zona was the quick read, quick feet, and spin move that broke the run followed by having zero endurance to finish. It was hard to watch  

I'll take 227 and in shape. He needs to run over people. Again, and again, and again, and again. 

My hope is he gets to OTAs at 225 and finds out he's an unstoppable badass and feels great and decides that's where he's staying. 

Its not just the total weight that he should lose. Muscle weighs more than fat. And body fat is hard to lose. Forget Lettuce sandwiches. He needs protein. A diet in higher protein (non trans fat). He can still eat a lot ala Atkins/SouthBeach type diet and still have energy that he used carbs for in the past.

Maybe this applies to Eddie.

 Wade Phillips talking about his father:    “The best one was with (Oilers running back) Earl Campbell, when Earl didn’t make the mile,” Phillips said. “It was a mile test to see what kind of shape they were in, and Earl didn’t make the mile and everybody ran up to Bum and said ‘Bum, Bum what are you going to do? Earl didn’t make the mile?’ Bum said, ‘Hell, if it’s third and a mile, we won’t give it to him.’ And he said, ‘But we’re going to give it to him the rest of the time,’ and we did.”

retweeted by lacy. Guess that's what he thinks healthy eating is? (It's celery!)

Eddie Lacy’s weight estimated in the 260 range

Eddie Lacy, Sylvester Williams, Chris Harris AP

The weight of Packers running back Eddie Lacy has been a topic of conversation for years, but no one has been able to pin down exactly how much he weighs. A good guess, however, is that he’s a biscuit short of 260. At least.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel pegs Lacy’s weight as at least 25 pounds heavier than the 234 the Packers listed him as, or at least 259 pounds.

With the Packers reportedly wanting Lacy to lose 30 pounds, he may actually be north of 260. Lacy weighed 231 at the 2013 Combine before the Packers drafted him in the second round, and the team probably wants him down around that weight again.

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