GrainBelt66 posted:FinnLander posted:Music City posted:But untilKing is a pro bowler and Biegs is on the field producing, what Watt does matters. If he becomes a perennial all-pro, and King/Biggs wash out in 5 years, its unforgivable.
Sorry, no it's not.
I don't know MC well enough, but I actually thought he was being sarcastic...
but, what do I know is that too many people on here are too sensitive and ready to fight over any perceived difference of opinion.
*edited for clarity
Disagree.
ChilliJon posted:Reporter to Earl Thomas after the game,
"Earl. With as much as the defense was on the field today did you guys start to feel it towards the end of the game?"
Thomas,
"Man. It's been that way for eight years. You want to put it on us then put it on us. It isn't new"
And so it starts in Seattle. ET just called out the other side of the ball in Seattle.
I think that by game 7 there could be open sores and serious feuding going on near the Space Needle...
Hungry5 posted:GrainBelt66 posted:FinnLander posted:Music City posted:But untilKing is a pro bowler and Biegs is on the field producing, what Watt does matters. If he becomes a perennial all-pro, and King/Biggs wash out in 5 years, its unforgivable.
Sorry, no it's not.
I don't know MC well enough, but I actually thought he was being sarcastic...
but, what do I know is that too many people on here are too sensitive and ready to fight over any perceived difference of opinion.
*edited for clarity
Disagree.
With which part?
This is the 1 thing NFL.com noted from the game yesterday.
Âŧ The Packers offensive line needs some help. Aaron Rodgers was stepped on, tweaked, bumped or hit in a way that caused some minor discomfort.
Not that the Packers D held SEA to 9 points. Based on that NFL observation you'd think that Packers had lost.
Considering all of the circumstances I thought Murphy did just fine.
New RG starting next to a guy that might be a better G than RT. Against the best defensive front 7 in the NFL. Agreed they held up about as well as we could have hoped for. Bulaga should be back soon.
Rodgers sacked 4 times. Wilson only sacked once. Not remotely close to what actually went down yesterday.
ChilliJon posted:New RG starting next to a guy that might be a better G than RT. Against the best defensive front 7 in the NFL. Agreed they held up about as well as we could have hoped for. Bulaga should be back soon.
Rodgers sacked 4 times. Wilson only sacked once. Not remotely close to what actually went down yesterday.
The Packers sacked Wilson 3 times for 23 yards.
all 3 included Perry and Daniels, including Daniels' strip-sack at Seattles own 6 yard line.
And per his SOP, McCarthy gave his tackles little help with that front 7 in the pass protection.
Here is a major plus that none of us thought possible during the first couple preseason games.
We have better T depth than we did last year. Murphy in year 2 is better than Spriggs year 1 or the Turnstile known as Don Barclay. Yes, interior depth is obviously a concern with Tretter in Cle, but Tackle is improved and is more important.
Ugh pic.twitter.com/lzrlfXN6uG
â Dave Softy Mahler (@Softykjr) September 11, 2017
I think no Oline and a 3 Mississippi count might work better for Russ.
â Darick Richard (@FoRealBigRick) September 11, 2017
Tschmack posted:Considering all of the circumstances I thought Murphy did just fine.
Agreed. The Seattle front 4 is both talented and deep.
I kept expecting Murphy to get beat like Spriggs did several times in the preseason and it never happened. Maybe they gave him a lot of help, but Murphy's presence was hardly noticeable yesterday and that is a good thing.
I thought Jake Ryan had his moments yesterday too in run support.
Hungry5 posted:Ugh pic.twitter.com/lzrlfXN6uG
â Dave Softy Mahler (@Softykjr) September 11, 2017I think no Oline and a 3 Mississippi count might work better for Russ.
â Darick Richard (@FoRealBigRick) September 11, 2017
Am I missing something or is there only 4 OL in that picture?
5th O-lineman was blocking Fackrell back at the line.
ChilliJon posted:Reporter to Earl Thomas after the game: "Earl. With as much as the defense was on the field today did you guys start to feel it towards the end of the game?"
Thomas: "Man. It's been that way for eight years. You want to put it on us then put it on us. It isn't new"
Tweedle Dee/Dum were talking about this during the game- when you have to pay the D as much as they do, you have to sacrifice money to other areas.
Not sure I buy that... and I'd say that SEA might want to look at their draft history before they blame the big bad cap.
They HAVE drafted OL in recent years and for all the crap TT takes about drafting people like Spriggs, they have pulled in far more busts.
Might need a fact check here. But I believe Seattle has used a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd on the OL in recent drafts and spent over $10 million in FA. And it's still a barn fire.
Many feel Tom Cable is the real problem. I don't think trading Kearse last week was a wise decision.
Whatever. Hope things only deteriorate even more.
Bevell is taking a beating as well.
That's the No. 2 pick in 2013 against the 132nd pick in 2012. Advantage, #Packers DT Mike Daniels. By a mile. pic.twitter.com/xIUSzs4MIT
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) September 11, 2017
There's the guy they paid $8 million to for this year alone.
They could've had Tretter for comparative pocket change.
Brak posted:Bevell is taking a beating as well.
But he's a product of the vaunted Mike Sherman and Brad Childress coaching trees. How can that be?
GB's OL will take a beating again this week, but the plus side is that they probably won't face any more aggressive DL's like Seattle and Atlanta until the playoffs. Those groups go for broke every down, they either give up big plays or make big plays (generally it's the latter). Bulaga will make a big difference for the protection and for Evans, he's the best RT in the NFL. Credit to Murphy for stepping up against Avril, Bennett, Clark, etc. and not embarrassing himself. Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett have made better Tackles than him look more foolish.
Pack-Man posted:Brak posted:Bevell is taking a beating as well.
But he's a product of the vaunted Mike Sherman and Brad Childress coaching trees. How can that be?
With a number of QB's, he seems to be pretty good at his job.
Bucky won. Crew swept the Cubs. Packers win. Seattle is pointing fingers.
The whipped cream on top of this slice of weekend pie would be Adrian Peterson running for 225 yards tonight in Minny.
The Packers sacked Wilson 3 times for 23 yards.
And forced an intentional grounding that wasn't called.
ChilliJon posted:5th O-lineman was blocking Fackrell back at the line.
I actually heard Fackrell get a positive mention, although Wilson was able to complete a tough pass on the play.
The whipped cream on top of this slice of weekend pie would be Adrian Peterson running for 225 yards tonight in Minny.
I think I'd rather see a bunch of children run out on the field and hit Peterson with switches.
Fedya posted:The whipped cream on top of this slice of weekend pie would be Adrian Peterson running for 225 yards tonight in Minny.
I think I'd rather see a bunch of children run out on the field and hit Peterson with switches.
Congrats Fedya. You made me laugh. Well done sir!
Fedya posted:The whipped cream on top of this slice of weekend pie would be Adrian Peterson running for 225 yards tonight in Minny.
I think I'd rather see a bunch of children run out on the field and hit Peterson with switches.
A bunch of his kids
Bring back the old Punt, Pass, and Whip contest?
Fackrell recovered a fumble.
Didn't see TJ Watt do that yesterday
Rodgers takes 1st down and 5 over 1st down and 10.
El-Belichick-Landry posted:Fackrell recovered a fumble.
Didn't see TJ Watt do that yesterday
Fackrell used great technique, stay as far away from the QB as possible and maybe Mike ****ing Daniels will slap the ball your way.
Frank Zombo recovered a fumble in the Super Bowl.
And didn't Zombo get a sack in the Super Bowl?
Packdog posted:El-Belichick-Landry posted:Fackrell recovered a fumble.
Didn't see TJ Watt do that yesterday
Fackrell used great technique, stay as far away from the QB as possible and maybe Mike ****ing Daniels will slap the ball your way.
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I'm not going to pretend that I know what his assignment was on that play, but he was lined up over the center on the snap. Hardly a typical place you'd expect Fackrell to get pressure from, and he seemed to play it pretty straight forward. I think his job was to spy and keep Wilson from stepping up and escaping up the middle of the field.
Think it was Bishop that recovered the fumble in the SB. Zombo had the key sack that forced a longer FG attempt that was missed. Big moment in the game.
ChilliJon posted:Think it was Bishop that recovered the fumble in the SB. Zombo had the key sack that forced a longer FG attempt that was missed. Big moment in the game.
Actually in the SB play mentioned Matthews and Pickett forced the fumble and Bihop recovers it for GB. I watch this play whenever I get mad at the Packers and it puts me in a better mood
Henry posted:They could've had Tretter for comparative pocket change.
Desperation.
They've drafted some interior guys high of late but they haven't tabbed an actual tackle since Justin Britt, who is their starting center right now. Odhiambo, Ifedi, Pocic were all projected interior guys. It didn't help they lost their starting LT in preseason, but he was a Breno-type to begin with. I'm thinking part of the issue is drafting for the ZBS crap because they're tabbing the same type of ZBS project busts TT did back with Moll, Barbre, Junius, Breno and the like. Cable's a good coach, but it's more chicken salad out of chicken schit. Get him just plain solid prospects and he'll work wonders and adapt to them.
Neg. Aaron's pick. Not so much that he threw it, no biggie, rather that he went all conservative and passed on a lot of short quick passes until later. Jones was not good on STs. House looked rusty.
Pos. The defense esp the d-line. Vogel did well. We played with an attitude! Cobb looked good. Rollins looked good. The nitro package did well.
