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GQ is evidently going to publish a rather scathing piece soon on NFL FU under Goodell. Including not too favorable quotes from Commish one-removed Paul Tagliabue. Can't wait.

@BartHubbuch: New issue of GQ has a feature on Goodell in which unnamed NFL exec says RG and Kraft are so tight, Kraft is called "assistant commissioner."

 

@BartHubbuch: GQ Goodell story not online yet, but it's a doozy. Opens with CBS' CEO offering PR advice & soft interview to Goodell during Ray Rice mess.

 

@BartHubbuch: Paul Tagliabue tells GQ that former close friend Goodell barely speaks to him now and that Tags' Bountygate rebuke of Goodell "didn't help."

 

@BartHubbuch: Tagliabue tells GQ Goodell isn't doing a good job, and it's because Goodell "makes decisions only in economic terms" and has no "allies."

 

@BartHubbuch: Tagliabue makes it sound to GQ that Goodell was hurt and shocked Tagliabue decided Bountygate based on the evidence and not cronyism.

 

@BartHubbuch: Ouch! GQ quotes NFL senior VP Joe Browne saying this when MTV prez Sara Levinson was hired to run NFL Properties:

 

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Goodell came under a lot of heat during the Ray Rice debacle, I wonder how much it would take for the owners to cave to public pressure and turn their backs on Goodumdum? Ultimately money is what drives the owners so as long as Goodumdum is making them tons of money they will stick with him. 

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:

Goodell came under a lot of heat during the Ray Rice debacle, I wonder how much it would take for the owners to cave to public pressure and turn their backs on Goodumdum? Ultimately money is what drives the owners so as long as Goodumdum is making them tons of money they will stick with him. 

Protecting the shield = protecting the owners assets = protecting their asses

Originally Posted by cuqui:
@BartHubbuch: GQ Goodell story not online yet, but it's a doozy. Opens with CBS' CEO offering PR advice & soft interview to Goodell during Ray Rice mess.

Kraft is on the Board of Viacom.

Viacom and CBS were the same company before a split (both are still majority owned by the same group).

The people at the top all know each other.

 

It's laughable that we think these people have any shame about some bad press. These are people who's business practices could make the devil blush. The only punishment will depend on how much the other billionaires want to push the issue at the owner's meetings.

The NFL doesn't have to be fair, but it does need the perception of fairness.  The NFL reputation is what is being damaged and that's what puts Goodell at risk.  I'm not so sure he will make it through the offseason intact.

I'd be surprised if Goodell goes anywhere. The owners as a group are not very symphathetic people. In fact, many of them are either silver-spoon types who have never had to work a day in their lives or people who've made money via questionable methods in terms of ethics. Goodell is perfect for them. As long as Goodell is there, people like us can focus on him as being incompetent which keeps us from talking about the fact that many of the owners are awful individuals.

NFL tells Seattle they get a 15 yard penalty and will fine Lynch is he grabs his junk in the SB.

 

NFL caught selling a commemorative NFC Championship Seattle wall plaque that included the photo of Lynch grabbing his junk against GB.

 

NFL running a commercial of Michael Irvin warning fans they are supporting criminal activity if they buy knock off NFL gear. Michael Irvin telling people not to support criminal activity... Then he holds up a Dez Bryant jersey. 

 

The NFL's biggest problem is that whoever is making decisions is one stupid muther ****er. Goodell may not be going away tomorrow. But he is going away pretty soon. 

GQ story is up. Just starting to read it, will post anything noteworthy.

 

http://www.gq.com/sports/20150...ell-season-from-hell

 

EDIT: titm post above nails it as usual

Kraft had a request, as he often did. According to a person with knowledge of their conversation, he wanted Goodell to get on-camera with CBS News anchor Norah O'Donnell and deal with the [Ray Rice] controversy before it spun even further out of control. Earlier that day, Kraft had appeared on CBS This Morning and was questioned by Charlie Rose about Goodell's handling of the Rice situation. It didn't go well. "He had no knowledge of this video," Kraft told Rose stiffly. "Anyone who's second-guessing that doesn't know him." After the interview, the source says, Kraft conferred with his friend Leslie Moonves, the CEO of CBS. The two men spoke often, but this call was urgent: In roughly forty-eight hours, CBS was set to air the first of eight Thursday Night Football games (for which the network reportedly paid about $250 million), and the game featured the Ravens. Kraft and Moonves agreed that Goodell needed to appear on CBS News and answer questions. The questioner, Moonves added, should be a woman.

Goodell rarely went out front to face tough interviews. But Kraft was one of Goodell's closest confidants among the NFL's thirty-two owners, and his fiercest advocate and defender. As a member of the league's compensation committee, Kraft has vigorously defended Goodell's eye-popping $44 million pay package, and in the wake of the TMZ leak, he personally called owners and lobbied them to issue statements backing the commissioner, according to a senior league source. So large is Kraft's sway with Goodell that one veteran NFL executive likes to call him "the assistant commissioner."

 

[n.b. Two weeks ago NFLFU announced it was extending the Thursday night package with CBS through 2015 with an option for 2016.]

Goodell right after becoming Commissioner:

The owners had their man. And for the players, as well as Goodell's subordinates in the league office, there would be consequences. At NFL headquarters there was suddenly a new mood, a brasher, more money-minded approach. The new commissioner demanded loyalty from staffers and even questioned their value. "He thought everyone was overpaid," a former senior executive told me. "He always told me I was overpaid." Another told me: "He gave me a hard time about my contract. I was like, The **** you doing? This is peanuts."

 

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It is time the NFL owners get a commish that is concerned about FOOTBALL and not just $$$$$$.  Goodell talks about "protecting the shield", hell, he has no idea what that is. They need to get a guy that will put the emphasis back on the game.  They need someone who will save them from themselves. 

Not gonna happen, ammo. The owners care first and foremost about profit. Classic example, Red***ns GM Bruce Allen was asked in his season ending press conference in early January what DC fans had to look forward to, given the clown show they've endured under Snyder. He replied "We're winning off the field", as if the fans gave a **** about Snyder's revenue stream. 

 

These guys are like Big Tobacco, they really don't give a **** as long as the money keeps getting better.

That's my point about the league's reputation.  As individuals we have no power, but collectively we have all the power.  The money doesn't flow if we don't watch.  The question is where is the tipping point?  At what point do large numbers of people stop watching? 

I don't think the fans can make a change, too hard to mobilize a large enough group. The players on the other hand could make some noise. Unfortunately, D Smith dry boned them up the backside with his pathetic representation job in the last CBA.

I agree, I don't think it would change through organized fan protest.  I simply mean if the product becomes uninteresting or too aversive, people will stop watching.  Of course, perhaps Goodell getting fired would be good drama and increase viewership.   

It's really not too hard to chip in against the people  There's a metric ****ton of brands to avoid if you want to take it out on the seemingly few companies who support the league with Super Bowl ad revenue.  Some of these conglomerates own a huge percentage of their respective markets.  

 

 Big Game Ad chart  

 

The beer market is the easiest one to take on.  Buy local beer instead of any of the Anheuser-Busch InBev brands.  Some of the more popular ones:

 

Bass

Beck's

Boddington's

Budweiser

Busch

Corona

Goose Island

Hoegaarden

Labatt

Leffe
Lowenbraue
Michelob

Natural Light

Rolling Rock

Spaten

St Paulie Girl
Stella Artois

 

Coca Cola products (click for full list)

Bacardi Mixers 
Bacardi Premium Mixers
Barq's Rootbeer (if you can find it try Virgils)
DANNON
Dasani
Dr Pepper
Evian
Fanta
Fresca
Mellow Yellow
Minute Maid

Hi-C

Monster

Power Ade

Schweppes

Sprite

Surge

 

Pepsi (click for full list)

Aquafina Water

Mountain Dew

Gatorade

Mug

Propel

Sierra Mist

Sobe

Tropicana

 

Fritos

Cheetos

Cracker Jack

Doritos

Funyons

Lays

Muchies

Rold Gold Pretzels

Ruffles

Smartfood Popcorn

Stacy's Pita Chips

Sunchips

Tostitos

 

Anything Quaker Oats or Aunt Jemima

 

Mc Donalds

 

Dove (owned by Unilever full list of brands)

 

Mars Inc full list

 

At least the beer part is easy, but other than that we're ****ed propper!   Even if we don't buy these brands chances are we're just supporting another conglomerate.  That was a pretty depressing half hour of research and a sober reminder of how much market share the massive companies have .    

 

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It is a given that the owners are all sociopaths…another reason to love the only community owned team in sports, but  when the Commish is creepier than the owners….,it's time to make changes

Article on Goodell and NFL gets published, then unpublished in Rolling Stone.  

You can follow the links to read it.  

 

jeffash26
Read it. Boom. RT @Deadspin: Rolling Stone unpublishes article critical of Roger Goodell hours after publishing it http://t.co/wKP2h72QKX
1/31/15, 8:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnson:

It is a given that the owners are all sociopaths…another reason to love the only community owned team in sports, but  when the Commish is creepier than the owners….,it's time to make changes

Hey I kinda resent that remark.....I AM AN OWNER of the Green Bay Packers, and I'm not a sociopath.      but I do agree with your statement.....time the commish gets the boot.

What would happen if at the Annual Packer Stockholder meeting the owners voted on and passed a motion that would order Mark Murphy to introduce a motion at the next NFL owners meeting to replace Goodell?  He would have to do what the stockholders voted on correct? 

Originally Posted by Boris:
If you think the Packer stockholders have that much power, you should be doing much more than getting rid of Goodell

I'm not saying it would get rid of Goodell. But afterall, we are the only fan base that has any power at all. If the stockholders direct Mark Murphy to represent them on an issue at NFL owners meetings he has to do as we vote or he could be replaced. I guess the Executive Committee really has the power, but changes could be made there too. 

It's a nice thought, but the reward vs the time and energy (read: cost) it would require is a losing proposition.

If it were possible, it has to be placed on the documents mailed with the annual meeting notice (I have no idea what the requirements are for that), and would be voted on at the meeting. It would, among other things, have to be specifically worded on what is to be done and in what time frame, what the group wants to specifically accomplish, and (the assured) rebuttal from the BoD. 

That's a mountain I can't see anyone climbing.

The main problem I see is that the leadership structure and accountability system is totally flawed.   It's like World Com or Enron all over again. 

You can't expect a guy like Goodell to make decisions that are in the best interests of all of the stakeholders in the league (fans, players, owners, sponsors) when there's no legit check and balance process in place. 

Kraft is his biggest advocate and supporter because he knows damn well Roger will stop at nothing to maximize his profits- which is fine if you can also make ethical and integrity based decisions. 

At some point though the other stakeholders will start to exercise their own power and I see some of that happening already.  Younger fans are losing interest and the bad press will eventually catch up with them.

If fantasy football weren't so damn popular I'm not sure there would be much of an NFL

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