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Originally Posted by PackLandVA:
Originally Posted by RoyalWulff:

I sure hope we have someone on the radar for a Center.  I keep seeing stories about safeties and ILB's, but Tretter's not a proven commodity, and I'm tired of seeing Rodgers scramble for his life.

 

Wonder if they took a look at de la Puente.  He was pretty decent for the Saints as a starter, and looks like he was signed for cheap.  Could've been some good insurance.

My guess is a young guy will be brought in with Lang as an worst-case scenario. Of course, it'll probably be some Ivy League guy and everyone knows those guys can't play center.

Looking at all the rumors and obvious smokescreens being thrown out there, this my latest mock:

 

PickTeamPlayer
1HoustonQB Blake Bortles (UCF)
2St. LouisOT Greg Robinson (Auburn)
3JacksonvilleDE Jadaveon Clowney (South Carolina)
4ClevelandWR Sammy Watkins (Clemson)
5OaklandQB Derek Carr (Fresno St.)
6AtlantaDE Kahlil Mack (Buffalo)
7Tampa BayOT Jake Matthews (Texas A&M)
8MinnesotaOLB/DE Anthony Barr (UCLA)
9BuffaloOT Taylor Lewan (Michigan)
10DetroitTE Eric Ebron (North Carolina)
11TennesseeCB Justin Gilbert (Oklahoma St.)
12New York GiantsDT Aaron Donald (Pittsburgh)
13St. Louis (from Washington)CB Darqueze Dennard (Michigan St.)
14ChicagoFS Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix (Alabama)
15PittsburghWR Mike Evans (Texas A&M)
16DallasDT Timmy Jernigan (Florida St.)
17BaltimoreSS Calvin Pryor (Louisville)
18New York JetsWR Brandin Cooks (Oregon St.)
19MiamiOT Zack Martin (Notre Dame)
20ArizonaDE Ra'Shede Hageman (Minnesota)

 

This is based on team needs and looking at which positions/players the media are talking about for each team. If the media says Team X is definitely taking a certain position or a specific player, I guarantee Team X is not taking that player/position. Teams have gotten so good at manipulating the media. I stopped at Arizona because I wanted to show, based on this scenario, who could be available. Here's my list of available players (ranked by value):

 

OLB Trent Murphy (Stanford)

WR Marqise Lee (Southern Cal)

CB Jason Verrett (TCU)

CB Bradley Roby (Ohio St.)

OG Xavier Su'a-Filo (UCLA)

OT David Yankey (Stanford)

WR Kelvin Benjamin (Florida St.)

QB Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M)

WR Odell Beckham (LSU)

OLB Ryan Shazier (Ohio St.)

DE Dee Ford (Auburn)

ILB C.J. Mosely (Alabama)

WR Allen Robinson (Penn St.)

RB Carlos Hyde (Ohio St.)

DE Scott Crichton (Oregon St.)

TE Jace Amaro (Texas Tech)

WR Davante Adams (Fresno St.)

DE Stephon Tuitt (Notre Dame)

NT Louis Nix (Notre Dame)

 

As you can see there could be a lot of players available at 21 who are either at positions GB doesn't necessarily need or they just simply aren't worth the pick. Some thought it was ridiculous that I suggested a trade back, but I don't see a player available at 21 who will be any better value than if we traded back into the 30's. If Ra'Shede Hageman is available, I fully expect him to the be the pick, but I don't see him being there. I think the only way we pick in round 1 is if we trade UP or there's some kind of Bryan Bulaga scenario where a guy slated for the top 15 drops...only guys that I see that possibly happening with is DT Aaron Donald or DT Timmy Jernigan. 

 

Last edited by Grave Digger
Originally Posted by Caveman:
If your scenario is true then other teams may find it to be true also making a trade partner to trade down impossible to make a deal with

I see your point. I think there will be good players available to GB, but they will be players at positions GB doesn't necessarily need to pick in r1. As you can see I think there will be several talented CBs, WRs, and QBs available to GB...GB won't pick a QB or CB in r1 and I find it unlikely they will take a WR. There will be teams in the top half of r2 or the end of r1 who might want to jump Philly for a guy like Maqise Lee or Kelvin Benjamin or jump Cincy for a CB like Verrett or Roby. 

Gravedigger:  As it relates to the Packers (for me) where players go are not as important as when they go and I think you did a good job identifying the most likely 20 players off the board when GB selects. 

  I agree that GB would do well to trade back a few places and get at least an additional 3rd round pick.  There are a couple of obvious trading partners if the QB scenario is as you see it.  One is Cleveland who probably would be willing to pay if the guy they like they like is still there at 21. Lot of thoughts about who their guy is but with a Patriot team that actually seems intent on getting a  staring caliber QB this year and they may want to get around the Browns at 26.  NE  may also want Jace Amaro and are willing to pay to ensure they get him. Jacksonville could also be in play but their cost would be steep. Should a trading partner show up I am hoping it is Cleveland as they may still get the player they wanted and a really good 3rd round pick (or a swap of 2nd round positions) for the move!
Pack88

Brandin Cooks is short and he, like shorty A-rod, will slide. I think Beckham will go before him. Doesn't change anything except I would never pass over Cooks, but TT would, so the franchise is safe on that one.

 

Yesterday they claimed Manziel is going to the Rams.

 

Which would put the Minnesota lineman in the selection pool.

 

I would not draft a lineman over 6'5". Injury situation just too risky. 

 

 

CJ Fed8wtr61#cierz is making more and more sense in the 3rd or 4th. The guy loves to block. High character. Kind of reminds me of Jordan Cameron in CLE that went in the 4th round in 2011 but CJ is a much better blocker. Cameron is a little faster. Cameron caught a total of 17 passes at USC and 1 TD in essentially two years. He caught 80 passes alone last year and 7 TD's.  

 

I think CJ would be a fantastic Packer if he became a trusted chain mover for AR on 3rd down because it's pretty much a given he'll mix it up with DE's and LB's to help open holes for Lacy and Starks.

 

I could really see TT grabbing him if things line up right.    

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Recent comments that Manziel is Favre... "he's that good". Problem is, Holmgren isn't coaching right now and Thompson won't be drafting him.

 

I like Cooks too but don't think he makes it to 21 unfortunately.

 

GD, nice work and I hope it falls similar to what you posted because I too think that would raise the trade-back opportunities.


 

Last edited by H5

Anyone have any background on Weston Richburg? C out of Colorado St. Have seen GB taking him in round 2 in a few mock drafts. He's pretty much the consensus #1 C in the draft with a second round grade. 

 

CJ Mosley

Weston Richburg

Shane Skov

CJ Fiedorowicz

 

Not a reach to think these guys are Packers in the first 3 rounds in two weeks. And I'd be fine with it. 

 

I do have a feeling everyone's been blowing smoke on Mosley and he's long gone before 21. I think just the opposite on Calvin Pryor and he'll be there at 21. 

 

 

 

 

"When they talk about my versatility, I think they're talking about that I can play wherever they need me to play," Richburg said. "I think if somebody gets hurt, we have guys who are capable, but I'm able and willing to go play any position. ... I've talked to some guys (about the NFL) and they've said that a guy was only a center, and he went into camp and was going against a guy who could play center and guard, and the center-only guy might be a better center than the other guy. But they're going to keep the guy who plays guard and center, so it's really valuable to be trying to do as much as I can."  -Denver Post (10/09/2013)

 

 

Originally Posted by Caveman:
I was hoping it would go back to a saturday sunday thing

 

 

Yeah right....Too much money involved now. It's on Primetime Thursday & Friday. I'm lucky I'm still grandfathered in with diehard status. (130 of us left on the planet) I'm sure at some point in the future they will start charging for those tickets to enter RCMH. If (when) I lose my diehard status, I will never attend a draft live unless they give me tickets. 

Goodell is unsure whether the draft will remain in May or go back to April. Traditionally, the draft would take place this weekend.

Earlier this week the talk was that it might get moved back another week next year to mid May. I think that was a smoke screen so that Goodell to get it to 4 days. I think Rog started his career running a game of 3-card monte in NY.

 

 

 

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