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At some point, the NFL will reach the tipping point with that arrogant prick Billy B and tell him to take his sawed off hoodie and go **** himself. They guy is a either a serial cheater of just an unstable moron. 

 

And if the NFL doesn't do it Kraft might. He's also got to be getting sick of Billy embarrassing him and his franchise. 

It's a friggin clown show. 

 

The only contact I've had about the game is at work & here on x4. I refuse to turn on any sport channels. 

 

I'm going to Vegas for the Super Bowl & probably have a nice dinner. Should be a great time getting back to real life

Originally Posted by cuqui:
Originally Posted by ammo:

There is no way in hell I want the Seahags to win the Super Bowl. And the reason, if they win in 2 weeks then they have the chance to be the 1st team to win 3 straight.  There is no way in hell I want any team to have the chance to do that other than THE GREEN BAY PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!  It would be totally intolerable if the Seahags and Pete Frickin Carroll are the 1st team to win 3 straight. 

Packers won three straight NFL championships. Twice. Why people act as if football wasn't invented until after the Super Bowl astounds me.

And the Canton/Cleveland Bulldogs won the NFL championship in 1922, 1923, and 1924, the final year as the Cleveland Bulldogs.  As I internet searched, I saw that Jim Thorpe was their coach from 1915-1920 which I think is pretty cool.

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

At some point, the NFL will reach the tipping point with that arrogant prick Billy B and tell him to take his sawed off hoodie and go **** himself. They guy is a either a serial cheater of just an unstable moron. 

 

And if the NFL doesn't do it Kraft might. He's also got to be getting sick of Billy embarrassing him and his franchise. 

He's too much of a darling "next legend" for the NFL to do that.  Or for Kraft to either.  Isn't Goodell still boss?

Was Gooddell ever boss?

 

Bellichick could poop on the NFL logo on the field of the Super Bowl before kickoff, reveal that he was with OJ that night and brought the knife and that he was on the grassy knoll in Dallass that day in 1963 and he'd still skate.

 

Billy B is a great coach, but he's also a sleaze, as much as I know that will upset the knob-shiners here and everywhere else.  Regardless, he generates a ton of revenue for Gooddell's bosses so he's not going anywhere.

This whole thing is unreal.  The advantage you'd gain seems to be so small that to go through all the effort and deceit to deflate these balls makes you look pretty bad.  The risk/reward just doesn't seem to be there.  Spygate actually makes sense b/c you would get an enormous advantage to know exactly what plays your opponent is practicing.  But deflating balls?  Just doesn't seem worth it.  More than anything it's just embarrassing to the Patriots.  How do you explain/rationalize this to your fans?  

 

IMO, Goodell should disqualify them from the Super Bowl and take away their entire 2015 draft.  Send the message that organizational cheating is absolutely unacceptable in the NFL and any attempt to do so will result in significant penalties.  Make cheating not worth it.  This being the second time, a harsh penalty makes sense.  However, we all know what will happen.  There will be a meaningless fine of $1-2 million and they'll lose a late round draft pick.  

@mortreport: NFL has found that 11 of the 12 Patriots' game balls used in Sunday’s AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each, per league sources.

 

So, did the Packers play with Seattle's balls for the NFCCG? I thought the balls where the NFL's? 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by CUPackFan:

 But deflating balls?  Just doesn't seem worth it.

It is if Tommy wants it. Today's QBs are obsessive about this. Hell, Peyton and Tommy got the league to change the rules a few years back concerning whether game balls could be scuffed up before game use so they could have an improved grip.

 

 

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NFL/Goodell do something about?

Haha, yeah right .... Next thing you'll be saying is Goldman Sachs is not manipulating the Aluminum market, JPMorgan is not manipulating the Silver market and all the major banks are not manipulating the Gold market for the Fed.
Originally Posted by trump:
NFL/Goodell do something about?

Haha, yeah right .... Next thing you'll be saying is Goldman Sachs is not manipulating the Aluminum market, JPMorgan is not manipulating the Silver market and all the major banks are not manipulating the Gold market for the Fed.

And the government isn't prosecuting because it really doesn't know!

Suspend Belichick for the Super Bowl.  Who knows, maybe it was Brady's call but it was under Belichick's watch.

 

The result of the game has no impact on the fact that they knowingly broke the rules.

 

Article below discusses what a great bad weather team the Patriots are. 

 

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2917

 

I still want to see them beat Seattle.

Not seeing why the Pat's should be punished? This is a league issue to me. They need to keep a better grip on their balls so something like this doesn't happen.

 

This isn't Minnesota man, this is the Super Bowl.

Who knows if deflation or spygate or roughing a baseball or breaking into the Watergate helped or not.  WTF happened to integrity in this day and age?  Muricans.....god shed his grace on thee.

Originally Posted by Boris:

It's a friggin clown show. 

 

The only contact I've had about the game is at work & here on x4. I refuse to turn on any sport channels. 

 

I'm going to Vegas for the Super Bowl & probably have a nice dinner. Should be a great time getting back to real life

Now you feel my pain - Fk the sports channels! Have a good dinner!!!

It is a good bet the Pats got caught cheating again. The NFL sure made it easy for them to cheat, it makes me wonder about all the other teams cheating. The league should take charge of handling the ball for 31 teams. Of course they should let the Packer inflate their ball to what ever they think is proper.

Originally Posted by cuqui:

@BartHubbuch: Belichick should get the most severe and excruciating punishment possible for him: "Hard Knocks."

He would probably have at least a couple on-screen meltdowns directed at the film crew over the course of training camp if his team was forced to be on that show.

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I thought it remarkable that each team plays with the footballs they provide for the games in this day and age. Seems like a rule that may be obsolete. I hate to see yet more legislation come into the game, but what else can be done?

Once teams provide footballs to the refs before the game, they shouldn't touch them again until they're returned after the game. Let the ball crews inflate them, with a ref supervising. Both teams plays with the same footballs. I suppose there's the issues of 'scuffing' them before games, but if an easy answer isn't available, let 'em play with what they get.

 

I read a quote from Brady that he said he likes for Gronkowski to spike the ball after a score, because he slams it down so hard it deflates the ball a bit. There is enough people and time to monitor air pressure during the games, as far as I'm concerned, to take that out of the equation.

 

Punishment? Meh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnqQhUdXgvI

 

 

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