When it changes from funny movie moment to sage advice, things have gone terribly wrong.
You mean he got into 3 prison fights and didn't kill anyone? He is slipping ...........
Peyton is just pissed he didn't think of that first.
Originally Posted by Henry:
A lifer in a prison fight! I'm shocked!
Solid reporting.
He's clearly hanging out with the wrong crowd.
Judge just nullified the four game suspension.
I knew that baby and those cheaters would get their way
"Roger, there's a Mr. Kraft on line one. He'd like to know when his check for $1 million and two draft picks will be returned. Should I send him directly to voicemail?""
You know the Redskins are like "sheesh Jessica, you couldn't have waited to make the accusations about your husband getting blow jobs from an ESPN reporter in exchange for scoops until TODAY???"
The bullsh*t continues....cheaters do prosper.
The Jessica, Dianna, BJ conversation. 
The thing I don't get is that the NFLPA and NFL agreed in the CBA, that Gooddell would be the arbitrator. It was dumb for the NFLPA to agree to that, but maybe they were smart, since they would litigate all issues. I'm not sure how the judge can just throw out the CBA?
ESPN is beyond outraged that anyone would make such comments regarding one of their reporters.
From what I am hearing, it looks like the NFL never came close to proving Brady did anything wrong.
Link to ruling.
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/c...b=special&id=484
Analysis from SI expert and Andrew Brandt.
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Originally Posted by phaedrus:
From what I am hearing, it looks like the NFL never came close to proving Brady did anything wrong.
The ruling is about process and really doesn't address culpability.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
From what I am hearing, it looks like the NFL never came close to proving Brady did anything wrong.
Yup, I didn't think they did either, but by the terms of the CBA, as long as Roger was convinced the player had broken the rules he could punish the player. Well, the Players Union are not looking so stupid after all. They keep whipping Roger and the owners in court.
No doubt in my mind that Brady cheated, but the NFL couldn't prove it, IMO.
If I were Goodell, I would double-check for ignitition starting explosive devices. Gotta figure Kraft pushes Rog out, or the other team owners who wanted the Patriots to get punished will push him out. Its a no-win for the current Commish.
NFL appeals.
Appeal is heard during the season.
Court overturns Berman's ruling and rules in favor of NFL.
High court refuses to to hear additional appeals.
Brady is suspended for 4 games starting week 14.
Perhaps it's Brady & Kraft who should be checking for "ignition starting explosive devices."
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
From what I am hearing, it looks like the NFL never came close to proving Brady did anything wrong.
Yup, I didn't think they did either, but by the terms of the CBA, as long as Roger was convinced the player had broken the rules he could punish the player. Well, the Players Union are not looking so stupid after all. They keep whipping Roger and the owners in court.
No doubt in my mind that Brady cheated, but the NFL couldn't prove it, IMO.
Brady destroyed his phone! They have pages of text messages. This isn't proof?!?!
The entire thing is such a farce
The aftermath sounds like the legal parameter in the judge's ruling was entirely about the "process" of the investigation - and its loopholes specifically by the NFL. Nothing at all about the tampering of the balls, or sledgehammer to the cell phone.
Originally Posted by Boris:
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
From what I am hearing, it looks like the NFL never came close to proving Brady did anything wrong.
Yup, I didn't think they did either, but by the terms of the CBA, as long as Roger was convinced the player had broken the rules he could punish the player. Well, the Players Union are not looking so stupid after all. They keep whipping Roger and the owners in court.
No doubt in my mind that Brady cheated, but the NFL couldn't prove it, IMO.
Brady destroyed his phone! They have pages of text messages. This isn't proof?!?!
The entire thing is such a farce
What did the messages say? Not much. Brady destroying his phone shows his guilt, but it is not evidence.
I wonder what affect this is going to have on the office of the commissioner. Players know that they can appeal any of his rulings with the knowledge that there's a good chance of winning an appeal. The Brady ruling essentially emasculates Goodell.
It sure isn't like when Pete Rozelle was commissioner.
Can't really compare Rozelle and Goodell.
Pete worked with a group of owners that included names like Halas, Brown, Wilson, Davis, Mara, Rooney, Hunt, Modell. The majority of the owners in the 60's and 70's were football men that cared about football.
Goodell works for 31 businessmen that care about money.
Also, Pete Rozelle was very adept at getting people to talk and solving problems while Goodell is a kind of a dumbass.
Goodell is perfect for the owners. You have a bunch of rich billionaires - some of which are literally criminals (see Haslem's corruption charges) or tend to be tone-deaf and say incredibly stupid things (Dan Snyder, etc.). The more people focus on the fact that Goodell is a dumbass, the less time they have to consider what awful people some of the owners are.
owners are just following Cris Carters' advice:
always have a fall guy in case you get into trouble
Roger got $44 million for his efforts.
That $44mm was for one year.
I believe the (other) owners got what they wanted out of this.
- fine and picks from Kraft
- increased media coverage and a controversial topic, with a QB who'll play in the TNF opener
- concussions? damn it, we've got deflated balls to talk about
The league is better off with Brady playing, so why wouldn't the owners want him playing?
Originally Posted by cuqui:
It is your fault Roger.
I know.
It is your fault Roger...
I know...
It is your fault Roger...
I KNOW!!!
It IS your fault Roger....
BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Keep in mind this ruling doesn't nix the fine nor the picks. It was ruled only on the suspension.
As others said however, this is just another in a long line of mass F up's by the league.
From this to Bounty gate to Ray Rice to Adrian Peterson to Greg Hardy to concussion denials they have just screwed their reputation again and again.
I think Roger needs to find a new day job.
Also, the ruling was not about whether or not Brady knew or had anything to do with the deflated balls, it was all about the process the NFL office went through in suspending Brady.
Which is interesting, given that NFL investigations are not the courts in the first place. So they are expected to follow legal procedures when investigating serious breaches in game conduct but do not have the power to compel people to turn over evidence. This is a no-win situation for the NFL.
Boston sports fans have always been a low key, agreeable lot so I hope this ruling doesn't affect their outward behavior in any way.
Berman ruled based on the filing of the appeal. The appeal was not whether balls were deflated or not and what Brady did or didn't know about that, it was about after all that what the NFL did to decide to suspend him. Really smart move by Brady / NFLPA. "Yeah, sure, I did it. But you didn't follow the CBA in determining my suspension, so ef off."
Pussy.
Roger Goodell will not attend next Thursday's NFL opener in Foxboro, NFL confirmed. Believes the focus should be on game/festivities.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) September 3, 2015
if *you* can’t show to opening day because *you*, the commisioner, are a distraction…why are you commissioner?
— El Flaco (@bomani_jones) September 3, 2015
And a moron.
Super psyched that Roger Goodell botched this Brady thing so spectacularly that now NFLers who beat women will appeal suspensions too.
— Molly Knight (@molly_knight) September 3, 2015
Some article stated, that Rog can hand down another punishment, maybe it's 2 games, 1 game, etc. The judge overturned this punishment, but other punishment is still possible and legal.
There is no double jeopardy in this case, since it's not criminal.