I think I could last one year as a GM. That seems about time every uninformed decision you've made starts to become impossible to dodge any longer.
But that would be one sweet year! Except the part about the franchise being left in a smoldering pile of ashes.
Then become GM of the Vikings.
They would probably improve...
I know I am a better cribbage player than Ted, does that count?
You know or you think?
Does EKB even think before he posts?
Well, I know and can beat Patty at cribbage, so ipso facto..
Can Peppers cover the entire field for 6 seconds? If not, go with the pass rusher.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Well, I know and can beat Patty at cribbage, so ipso facto..
RIP Patty, keep makin cookies for Ted.
Gil Brandt's top prospects list posted at NFL.com:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/...2017-nfl-draft-51100
24. OLB-Takkarist McKinley
26. CB-Adoree' Jackson
27. CB-Quincy Wilson
28. CB-Kevin King
30. CB-Tre'Davious White
32. CB-Chidobe Awuzie
37. ILB-Haason Reddick
40. OLB-Jordan Willis
43. CB-Marlon Humphrey
46. ILB-Zach Cunningham
47. OLB-Tim Williams
49. OLB-Ryan Anderson
60. OLB-T.J. Watt
61. CB-Jourdan Lewis
65. CB-Teez Tabor
67. OLB-Tyus Bowser
If the Packer's board looks anything like that, they won't be picking T.J. Watt at #29. If Haason Reddick is available at #29, I'd be forgetting about the CB and OLB need in a hurry (but Reddick will not be available at #29).
I've given up on the Reddick dream. I don't think Humphrey is there either. Lot of names on that list are going to be productive pros. Gotta pick one of those guys. It's not an immediate need but Zach Cunningham is super intruiging as long term solution at ILB.
Tre'Davious White and Watt might be the best available. Gotta go with Watt, gamble that you're catching an ascending talent rather than a 1 year wonder. At worst you're getting Shea McClellin, which isn't what you want from a R1 player, but Shea did just start for a championship defense. At best you're getting Clay Matthews, maybe better.
I wonder if McClellin's recent success had to do with coaching . . .
McClellin only started 4 games for New England and his defensive snap count was 380 (36.4% of the defensive plays). There were 14 players that played more defensive snaps for the Patriots last year. I very much doubt Belichick's experiment with McClellin goes anywhere because he's a bad player and has been a bad player since he stepped foot in the league. If T.J. Watt gives Thompson any hint that he could be the next Shea McClellin, then Thompson can't use anything higher than a fifth round pick on him.
He was also a Special Teams stud for them. I'd be curious to see how his career would have developed had he had any continuity at all in coaching and position. Stupid Bears started him out at strong-side DE with his hand down and head-up on massive RTs.
I think NE let him settle in to 1 position and he was surrounded by superior talent...better/smerter coaching also helped. Chicago needed him to be Urlacher's replacement, that wasn't going to happen. The point wasn't that McClellin is any good, I think he was a role player among many role players for NE, the point was that he's smart, he's high effort, he's athletic, so worst case scenario with Watt you're getting a similar player...that's a better floor than we have seen from a lot of players (Ahmad Carroll anyone?). Not first round quality, but every 1st rounder carries that kind of risk. In the end I think Watt is more likely to be a Ryan Kerrigan type player who has just under 60 sacks in 6 years, definitely worth a 1st rounder.
It's almost like the coaches knew how to get the most out of his talents . . .
It's like McShay vs. Kiper, if neither watched tape nor had a clue.
Shea McClellin is a ****ing terrible NFL player. Be glad Chicago took that failure in front of New England before GB tried to jump in front New England. New England ended up with Chandler Jones (I recall Boris blowing a head gasket when NE selected Jones) and GB settled for Nick Perry. So everything worked out for the best. Especially the part about the Bears selecting a ****ty player and feeling like they got over on everyone as it was happening.
What I'm trying to say is **** Shea McLellin.
heyward posted:It's like McShay vs. Kiper, if neither watched tape nor had a clue.
heyward posted:It's like McShay vs. Kiper, if neither watched tape nor had a clue.
GB settled for Nick Perry
Or, that's who Thompson wanted and he got CHI and NEP to think he wanted Shea or Chandler?
#bestgifs The race is for 2nd.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...eighs-watt/100661890
"I'm sure if he's anything like his brother, he'll have a drive and work ethic that can't be matched." --Clay Matthews
Or can't be measured either, or overvalued.
I obviously say YES.
From the "it's kind of like an early draft selection" file. GB signed Max McCafferey on December 20th. 6'2" 200lb with 4.40 speed.
Its going to be interesting to see how he does with a full offseason with the offense.
His Pro Day numbers really weren't bad...4.46 40, 36.5" vert, 10' 2" broad, 4.15 shuttle, 7.09 3-cone, but only 9 reps on bench. Those numbers are pretty similar to what Jordy put up at the combine/pro day in 2008. Numbers in college weren't very impressive, but I would say based on his physical talent and bloodlines he has a chance to contribute.
His QB at Duke was Thomas Sirk. Not good. He's someone to keep an eye on in camp. Not that Ted would pass if the right guy fell in his lap but GB has 9 WRs on the roster today. Just something to keep in mind if Ted actually goes a draft without selecting a WR.
ChilliJon posted:From the "it's kind of like an early draft selection" file. GB signed Max McCafferey on December 20th. 6'2" 200lb with 4.40 speed.
Its going to be interesting to see how he does with a full offseason with the offense.
Does Darren Sharper have any kids on the Vikings or the Bears?
He's going to go top 25. If the Packers want him, they'll have to trade up for him. He performed on the field and his measurables and combine performance were both good as well. Combine that with his pedigree.. i'd be shocked if he slipped past the 20-25 mark.
If we stand pat, we might be looking at Jabrill Peppers to replace Hyde.
To answer the question. Yes. I would also trade up into the 18-20 area (if possible and for reasonable amount) to get him similar to the situation when we drafted Clay. He is worth it.
I really don't have much confidence in Ted when it comes to drafting defensive players though.. but there is always hope he doesn't screw it up.
ChilliJon posted:His QB at Duke was Thomas Sirk. Not good. He's someone to keep an eye on in camp. Not that Ted would pass if the right guy fell in his lap but GB has 9 WRs on the roster today. Just something to keep in mind if Ted actually goes a draft without selecting a WR.
So....JuJu Smith-Shuster at #29? :-)
With Bennett, Kendricks and DikPlod also on roster there's no shortage of numbers at receiving positions, for sure.
Diggr14 posted:To answer the question. Yes. I would also trade up into the 18-20 area (if possible and for reasonable amount) to get him similar to the situation when we drafted Clay. He is worth it.
I really don't have much confidence in Ted when it comes to drafting defensive players though.. but there is always hope he doesn't screw it up.
Happy 4/20 day.
What is the significance of 4/20 day? Was that the day when Clay Matthews was drafted?
Herschel posted:ChilliJon posted:His QB at Duke was Thomas Sirk. Not good. He's someone to keep an eye on in camp. Not that Ted would pass if the right guy fell in his lap but GB has 9 WRs on the roster today. Just something to keep in mind if Ted actually goes a draft without selecting a WR.
So....JuJu Smith-Shuster at #29? :-)
With Bennett, Kendricks and DikPlod also on roster there's no shortage of numbers at receiving positions, for sure.
Don't forget - GB still has Janis.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:What is the significance of 4/20 day? Was that the day when Clay Matthews was drafted?
That would be happy 4/25 day.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:What is the significance of 4/20 day? Was that the day when Clay Matthews was drafted?
I'm guessing you're over 50.
Yes, that would be true.
4/20 is national weed day. And for those establishments that legally sell marijuana today is their Black Friday.
Seeing how Diggr felt GB might need to trade from 29 to 18 "for a reasonable amount" for a guy that's not on many first round boards becasue "he's worth it". I though maybe he'd gotten pretty deep into his Diamond Glass 18" Typhoon Bong last night ahead of the crowd. So I thought I'd send him a happy 4/20 note. I'm a people person.
