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Originally Posted by The Heckler:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:

Wait until PETA gets involved and convinces the masses to ban animal names.  It will take some time... laugh now, shake your head later. 

I think that Pandora's box has been opened. I honestly do not care either way if the name is changed but I do believe this is only the start. In the ruling it said something like they found the name to be derogatory.  So when will other names offend people and a change be forced?  yes I get it that it can be seen as a slur to a group of people I am not disputing that but who is up next for a name change?  Any team that uses any Indian likeness or name?  We have seen over time teams changing nicknames away from Warriors etc.  So what would be an acceptable name for the Redskins? should the team be allowed to pick their own name and if they do will they need to work with people to ensure no one gets their sensitivities hurt? Will they need to make the decision now to completely break away from anything Indian at all out of fear they will have to just change it down the line? Or maybe we should just go the Alabama route and only have team colors and number on the helmets and the only logo is the letter from the city or state the team is in.  This way no one can be hurt by it.

 

 

I'm sure the same points of view were made surrounding Jim Crow nigger imagery in advertising and business.  Sambo's anyone?  

 

Real simple, quit using a group of people as mascots if they don't want to be used as mascots.  I can dump a ton of history, social thought and politics to back up the argument but it just isn't that complicated.  You don't want your culture to be a cartoon embellishment of a sport, particularly one that is offensive, end of issue.

 

There is no slippery slope, it's just whining and money.  We need to grow up, own the mistakes of our past and move forward.  Having some relic of our cultural idiocy hanging around should be embarrassing for the whole nation.  It's like having the Munich Kikes complain about their tradition.

 

Hell, your team is named the Warriors?  Change the image to mascot to some guy that looked like me in my early 20's and viola!; slobbering Germanic warrior.  Hell, get creative.  What about the Tardigrades?  Toughest sombitches alive and I don't think they give two ****s about royalties.  

 

I think one exemption needs to made for the Cleveland Indians but they do need to change their mascot.

 

Last edited by Henry
Just when you thought it couldn't get loopier:

Federal judge forbids use of ‘Redskins’ in court documents

quote:
U.S. District Judge Peter J. Messitte, who is presiding over a lawsuit that former New York Giants linebacker Barrett Green brought against the Redskins, issued a 21-page ruling with this footnote on the first page:

“Pro Football’s team is popularly known as the Washington ‘Redskins,’ but the Court will refrain from using the team name unless reference is made to a direct quote where the name appears.” Instead, he wrote, the team will be referred to as “the Washington Team.”

The note comes months after Messitte ordered attorneys in the case not to use the team’s name in his courtroom, according to one of the lawyers.


If it weren't for the fact that it would result in a contempt citation, I'd think seriously about referring to Judge ***** if I were one of the lawyers.
“Pro Football’s team is popularly known as the Washington ‘Redskins,’ but the Court will refrain from using the team name unless reference is made to a direct quote where the name appears.” Instead, he wrote, the team will be referred to as “the Washington Team.”

 

You can't make this stuff up anymore. 

Last edited by Fond Du Arrigo

This is an epic waste of time and money.  Animals will feel disrespected, the color pink called in it wants to be known as magenta, the fighting irish have to change their name to non-violent irish americans.    Seriously, white guilt and assinine over-reaching is out of hand.  We have a country that is closing in on 20T in debt, we have millions of "undocumented" persons flooding our borders, Russia is re-starting the cold war, and government wastes their time and tax dollars on stuff like this.  Let me spell it out for you, if it was an issue.... let the people that buy the jerseys, tickets, and watch the games on sundays handle it.  This isn't a Jim Crow situation where it needs vital government intervention.  This is just lunacy in its purest form.

 

That caucasians logo needs to be used!  That's epic.  Maybe if the acme packing co. retired employees from 80-100+ years ago get offended they can switch to being the Green Bay Caucasians!

 

 

Originally Posted by BrainDed:

I want to see the Washington Hook Noses.   Indians have red tinted skin, Jewish people have distinctive noses, what's the problem?  A side profile of Madilyn Albright will be the mascot. 

 

Think Snyder would like that?

 

I don't think he'd have a problem with it at all.   As long as it made him money.

(well, maybe using Madeleine Albright as the subject for the nose...maybe Adrien Brody style?)

 

Originally Posted by Diggr14:

This is an epic waste of time and money.  Animals will feel disrespected, the color pink called in it wants to be known as magenta, the fighting irish have to change their name to non-violent irish americans.    Seriously, white guilt and assinine over-reaching is out of hand.  We have a country that is closing in on 20T in debt, we have millions of "undocumented" persons flooding our borders, Russia is re-starting the cold war, and government wastes their time and tax dollars on stuff like this.  Let me spell it out for you, if it was an issue.... let the people that buy the jerseys, tickets, and watch the games on sundays handle it.  This isn't a Jim Crow situation where it needs vital government intervention.  This is just lunacy in its purest form.

 

That caucasians logo needs to be used!  That's epic.  Maybe if the acme packing co. retired employees from 80-100+ years ago get offended they can switch to being the Green Bay Caucasians!

 

 

 

WOOO!  We have achieved college freshman!  Big round of applause.

 

*Ahem*  Those are very nice points diggy!  We encourage our slower students here at x4 to dream big!  There's no stopping you now!   

Last edited by Henry
Originally Posted by BrainDed:

Snyder is Jewish.. "Jews love money.". 

 

You said he wouldn't care about the Jewish Hook nose mascot as long as he made money off it..  It was funny until I had to explain it.

It wasn't funny at all.   My point was making money off of the new logo by being able to sell merchandise with it.  If you have been following this thread I had mentioned earlier, too, that if the owner of the team changed logo's he would make more money selling the new logo merchandise as well as keep selling the old merchandise (sic).

 

BTW...don't we all love money?  

 

 

 

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