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ChilliJon posted:

I get the sense you coach or have coached. 

One thing I know beyond all reasonable argument. Aaron Rodgers is a better QB than Mike McCarthy is a HC. That point isn’t up for discussion. 

Mike is wasting Aaron Rodgers time at this point. Aaron isn’t missing open receivers because everything is a fire drill and Aaron is ****ing sick of it. This offense is not a plan. It’s Rodgers and Mikes belief he actually matters. 

Rodgers is a better QB than Mike is a HC for sure. There's no doubt about that. I think that's true of 31 HCs and the ~500 assistant coaches in the NFL though. 

I would argue it's a fire drill because he initiates the fire drill. Yes it's built into the offense, but I don't think the plan is ever for that to happen every play. Rodgers has had options every week, but he hears footsteps and starts scrambling hence the fire drill.

This play:

Is this play:

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Except Rodgers took a drive killing sack instead of chancing an INT. 

Yes Mike's scheme has always put too much pressure on players to win 1on1 battles to the point where 1 missed assignment or lost battle can doom many of the plays. Players have to study film and have a strong grasp of tendencies and what adjustments they need to be thinking about. That's a really fine line the offense toes and while it's incredibly frustrating, it's also the reason there are huge opportunities. When you have an offense teeming with veteran savvy, like in 2011, who can all win their battles and dominate defenses then it's a brilliant scheme that hums. When you have 2 rookies, a 2nd year RB, a shaky OL, and backup TEs playing key roles then it can be haphazard at best. That's not a defense of MM, it's the reality. Dom Capers defense was the same way, it relied heavily on players winning 1on1's, but when MD Jennings and Jarius Wynn are your starters then there's massive holes because they won't EVER win 1on1's. 

Josh McDaniels, Sean McVay, and Kyle Shannahan's schemes don't rely so heavily on 1) those 1on1's to be the core opportunities for the offense and 2) so many adjustments from the WRs and QB mid-play. I look at it as in MM's scheme you're seeing Rodgers/Receivers vs. 2nd/3rd level players whereas in those other schemes you're seeing the offensive play caller vs. the DC. Both schemes have merit, MM's scheme puts the pressure on DBs and LBs to play smart and disciplined football while the other schemes put pressure on the whole defense to read and react quickly. 

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