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CAPackFan95 posted:
Ghost of Lambeau posted:

Just a stat, none of GBs HOF QBs (Arnie Herber, Starr, Favre) were originally first round picks - although we did give up a first to get Favre from Atlanta.  That will change when Rodgers gets in.  But even then none will have been a top 10 pick.  So all this moving up is way over rated for the teams moving up. 

I mean, if we're going to stretch your logic to its inevitable conclusion, NFL teams shouldn't even draft a QB, because hey, Bart Starr was drafted in the 17th round!  Since there are only 7 rounds today, drafting a QB ANYWHERE must be overrated, right?  

I did not mean for it to be taken that way. 

Bart Starr was taken with the 248th overall pick in the 1956 NFL draft.  That pick is in the 7th round today - and it is currently the Packers last pick in this draft.  The difference is there were fewer teams in 1956 - hence more rounds.  In the history of the NFL draft there have always been 250-300 players taken overall.  So I definitely did NOT mean to imply that a QB should NEVER be taken "ANYWHERE" - or if one was they were overrated. 

So I will try to spell it out for you.  I posted what I did in the context of the trade ups that have been occurring in the NFL.  I meant the post to help make the point a team doesn't have to mortgage the future to get the help they need - and this can happen at any position - not just QB.  The Packers certainly haven't.  But while I am at it, neither have other teams.  Pittsburg for instance took Roethlisberger in the first, but he fell to their spot - they did not trade up.  The Patriots got Brady in the sixth.  The Rams got Werner from a grocery store.  And so on.  Hershel made the (good) point that first round HOF QBs are more common as of late.  And there are reasons for that - maybe QBs are a more first round thing to pick - maybe teams just got better at taking first round QBs.  I don't know exactly - but that was a good point as the history shows. 

I think it depends on your starting point as a QB - the better that is the faster results will come.  Then having a fit between QB, coach, and system is a key.  Then having a coach who knows how to develop is key.  In that context, a good QB can be available anywhere in the draft.  It was just a thought to help support the anti trading up talk.  That is it. 

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