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@Chongo posted:

That’s crazy how far ahead he is considering he’s missed a number of games due to injury.  I suppose Antonio Brown would be closer if he wasn’t an absolute head case but, he’s a psycho who is lucky he ever he got back in the NFL at all.

@fightphoe93 posted:

That’s crazy how far ahead he is considering he’s missed a number of games due to injury.  I suppose Antonio Brown would be closer if he wasn’t an absolute head case but, he’s a psycho who is lucky he ever he got back in the NFL at all.

Just to add numbers to your thought, DA has missed 4 games in 2019 (MLFs first year), and 2 full games (actually 2.5 games) in 2020.  In those games the Packers are 6-0.  That is also a testament to the job MLF and AR have done. 

While we're worrying about how/if Gute screwed up with Rodgers, let's not forget that Davonte Adams will be playing the last year of his deal this year and is an UFA in 2022.

He's 29 years old, he's a top 5 WR and has more than lived up to his last deal. Seems like someone you'd want to lock down, especially considering the GMs drafting record with WRs here.

Also - interesting to note that Green Bay currently has 1 WR under contact beyond this year - UDFA Bailey Gaither.  I guess Gutey thinks we can just split out 2-3 of the 78 OL he's drafted?

No question the Rodgers situation will have a trickle down effect and I think Adams extending or being extended is a 50/50 proposition at best.  Prior to this?  Probably 90/10 he extends with GB.

If Rodgers is dealt after June 1 the Packers would free up enough cash to extend Adams and maybe even Jaire Alexander before they hit UFA.   But Adams may want to test the waters given everything that’s transpired.  

Some are speculating he could get closer to 30 million a year. As has been said, all it takes is one owner.

For comparison the top 3 WR's salaries are:

DeAndre Hopkins is averaging 27, 250,000.00 per year.

Julio Jones is at 22 mil per year,

Keenen Allen is at just over 20 mil per year,



I love Adams, he'll get his money somewhere. I just don't think it'll be in GB. The Packers don't value WR's this high and remember this team hasn't taken a WR in the 1st round since 2005.

LaFluer wants and is building a Rams/9ers style Shanahan offense that is run heavy and doesn't require super stars at WR.  IMO, GB would much rather spend that money at corner (Alexander), pass rusher (eventually Gary), or along the OL or DL.

Well see, but I am not holding my breath.

Not sure it's worth paying a WR more than $25m per year, especially when he's turning 30 nest year.  Just look at the Julio Jones deal in Atlanta for how a WR contract for a future HOFer can turn bad. 

That said, the Packers left themselves with no options to replace Davante, so they may not have a choice.  Even if Rodgers retires or leaves, you can't trot out Love with MVS as his #1 WR. 

@packerboi posted:

Some are speculating he could get closer to 30 million a year. As has been said, all it takes is one owner.

For comparison the top 3 WR's salaries are:

DeAndre Hopkins is averaging 27, 250,000.00 per year.

Julio Jones is at 22 mil per year,

Keenen Allen is at just over 20 mil per year,



Nope!

@packerboi posted:

I love Adams, he'll get his money somewhere. I just don't think it'll be in GB. The Packers don't value WR's this high and remember this team hasn't taken a WR in the 1st round since 2005.

LaFluer wants and is building a Rams/9ers style Shanahan offense that is run heavy and doesn't require super stars at WR.  IMO, GB would much rather spend that money at corner (Alexander), pass rusher (eventually Gary), or along the OL or DL.

Well see, but I am not holding my breath.

And rightly so. Great WRs are an unnecessary component of championship teams. A stupid luxury. I mean, what is our record without Adams over the last 2 years.

@Timpranillo posted:

While we're worrying about how/if Gute screwed up with Rodgers, let's not forget that Davonte Adams will be playing the last year of his deal this year and is an UFA in 2022.

He's 29 years old, he's a top 5 WR and has more than lived up to his last deal. Seems like someone you'd want to lock down, especially considering the GMs drafting record with WRs here.

Also - interesting to note that Green Bay currently has 1 WR under contact beyond this year - UDFA Bailey Gaither.  I guess Gutey thinks we can just split out 2-3 of the 78 OL he's drafted?

What can’t the Shanahan offense do?  You can plug in any ol’ pud at QB or plug in at the 1 WR spot a 5th rounder who has a 50/50 chance of catching a ball,  that’s when it’s being thrown by a HOF QB, and it’s 14-3 time!

You know what’s best about this whole offense?  All the lunch pails.  

@Goalline posted:

And rightly so. Great WRs are an unnecessary component of championship teams. A stupid luxury. I mean, what is our record without Adams over the last 2 years.

Was that with Otto QB behind center?

@Henry posted:

What can’t the Shanahan offense do?  You can plug in any ol’ pud at QB or plug in at the 1 WR spot a 5th rounder who has a 50/50 chance of catching a ball,  that’s when it’s being thrown by a HOF QB, and it’s 14-3 time!

You know what’s best about this whole offense?  All the lunch pails.  

What's hilarious is that offense, QB'd by some pud who everyone mocks as being pretty average (Garapolo) throwing to a 5th round TE as his primary receiver, went 15-4 and played in the SB.

What's hilarious is that offense, QB'd by some pud who everyone mocks as being pretty average (Garapolo) throwing to a 5th round TE as his primary receiver, went 15-4 and played in the SB.

Good Fellas Hilarious

What's hilarious is that offense, QB'd by some pud who everyone mocks as being pretty average (Garapolo) throwing to a 5th round TE as his primary receiver, went 15-4 and played in the SB.

And lost.

Because as we know, it was the offense that really made that team go.  Oh goodness!  You mean you forgot about the monster defense loaded with high #1 picks and FAs?

Didn't they draft and sign skill players too?  Who needs that?  I'm guessing Gunt will be signing Tonyan to a 5 year 75 mil deal any day now because plug and play amirite!  Why would you even pay that kind of contract? 

Common mistake.

Dumb Gunt better go swing a trade for Garapolo for Rodgers pronto!

Jesus fuck.

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Did that same 9er team fall apart the next year because Jimmy Cousins wasn't there to save them?

Ohhh!  You mean major pieces on the defense and Kittle, Deebo Samuels were out?  Just goes to show, top end offensive skill players are a luxury.

Don't mind the all the facts littered about the peanut gallery.

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And lose, yes.   

See the whole point is to WIN a Super Bowl.

I just didn't want you to forget the monster defense that made it possible for Otto QB and the guy that just signed a 75 million dollar contract (stupid, amirite) to make it to the Super Bowl and lose.  Easy mistake to make. 

I don't want to make light of your observation because everybody knows that 9er's team was all about Jimmy Cousins.

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But has it made any of those QBs champions?

No, but you guys are right.  What this team needs is to actually GET RID of more highly experienced, top of their game players as they're just mucking up this incredible system predicated on having a minimum of a top 10 defense to make it anywhere in the playoffs.

It's not a cyclical offense, it's jeenyous!

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The trend is you can get by with an average QB like Brady, Flacco, old Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, or Eli Manning. Let’s find a scheme that can make life easy on average QBs, does anyone know of such a scheme?

"Average"

Again, never mind the crazy defenses that went along with Average Manning, Average Eli (won two Average Super Bowls) and Average Brady.  Flacco and Foles not only won a Super Bowl but an average Super Bowl MVP.   

Totally agree otherwise.

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