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Re: Playoffs

Music City ·
I do not think so. Washington plays in a down conference and has no signature wins. The Badgers beat LSU, who was the only team to compete with 'Bama. And while the MSU win is no longer a factor, beating Nebraska and Iowa on the road, and taking OSU to overtime and Michigan to the brink is better than anything Washington has done. To then complete it with a win over Penn State to be Conference champion in the toughest conference in football this year clinches it. There will be 2 B1G teams in...
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Re: Playoffs

phaedrus ·
I don't get this Wisconsin would lose to Michigan stuff. If Speight throws 2 int's and fumbles once like he just did...
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Re: Playoffs

Tschmack ·
The Badgers have to beat Penn State no matter what. I also think Washington has to beat Colorado for them to be safe. Same thing with Clemson but their path is easier than either Wisconsin or Washington. Washington beating a top 10 Colorado team cancels out UW beating a top 10 Penn State team. That's where it could get interesting in the comparisons. Washington has one loss to a top 15 USC team. The Badgers have two losses to top 10 teams. The Badgers beat LSU and Iowa and Nebraska - all...
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Re: Playoffs

The Heckler ·
This is what kind of gets me. There is now a mentality in things I have been hearing and reading that now apparently they also want a "better game". So is it the whole body of work or is it who would give a better game? It seems to shift around constantly if they are talking about a blue blood program. And no one will say it but I guarantee you that they want as many blue bloods in the playoff as they possibly can and will use any excuse in the book to make it happen. Think about if for a...
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Re: Playoffs

Tschmack ·
I also have to think Michigan is still in the discussion regardless of the BT championship game especially if a Clemson or Washington loses again. UM might have 2 losses, but they own head to head comparisons by beating UW and throttling Penn State. That's 2 top 10 wins not including the Colorado win that looks pretty good right now.
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Re: Playoffs

Grave Digger ·
I'm not sure there is truly a path for Bucky to make the playoffs anymore. If they beat PSU and Clemson AND Washington both lose then you're talking about Michigan moving back into the playoffs and I just don't think the committee will put 3 B1G teams in a 4 team playoff...especially when the Pac12 winner (in this scenario Colorado) is also a top 10 team with 2 losses. If Oklahoma (also 2 losses) won convincingly over OK St., becoming the Big 12 champ, then I believe they would also be in...
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Re: Playoffs

Grave Digger ·
I think the committee factors in multiple criteria, but at the end of the day they pick who they believe are the best 4 teams in the country. I agree that the B1G winner SHOULD go, along with the SEC and PAC12 winners as those teams have gone through a gauntlet of inter-conference play AND won a championship outright. The Big 12 needs a championship game to legitimize their champion. If you want to compare quality wins: -Michigan has the best argument with 4 wins vs. Top 25 teams with 3 of...
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Re: Playoffs

FreeSafety ·
Great post. But in this last part I think this is where strength of schedule has to come into play. If you are going to use record to give Washington the edge, I cannot agree. Not with their weak SOS and the way WI had to face a gauntlet of quality opponents week after week. And WI looked and played well in their only two losses. Holding MI to 14 at the Big House after they had just put up 45 and 49 on two other now top 10 teams and being in the game right up until an amazing 4th quarter...
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Re: Playoffs

Cavetoad ·
I have to agree. Best case scenario was Michigan winning and Bucky winning the title game. Now even if Bucky wins, they are still going be be considered a lesser 2 win team. And, TBH, Michigan did beat both the B1G champs regardless. My argument would be that Bucky did not lose at Iowa like Michigan did... but head to head should count too. I would have loved a Michigan/Bucky title game. It would have been epic. But, it's not what is.... I can see the national arguments for what it should be...
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Re: Playoffs

FreeSafety ·
I saw some talk yesterday about how with the committee keeping Washington so high, it seems like we still have the problem with teams being punished for scheduling tough opponents and other teams being rewarded for scheduling weak opponents. That is the opposite of what we want. It was a problem the BCS system was supposed to help with, but the committee seems to be taking things backward a step if they insist on keeping Washington ahead of teams like WI and Oklahoma....and now MI. MI...
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Blair Kiel ·
Tomorrow. Fox.
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Re: Playoffs

Blair Kiel ·
PS. Great thread. When all is said and done, even with a Bucky win, I don't think we get in---and I can't complain. 2 losses is 2 losses. Michigan and Ohio St. were better than us this year. Period.
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Re: Playoffs

FreeSafety ·
1. I don't think beating PS is going to be easy, not at all. But if WI loses then none of this talk matters, so I think we are just assuming a WI win for the sake of this discussion. 2. I think the media talks about PS winning so much because they beat OSU and would have a better argument for being in the playoff. They won the division that both OSU and MI are in, they won the conference and they beat OSU head to head. It is just a more interesting scenario for the committee if PS wins the...
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Re: Playoffs

MichiganPacker ·
A 12 team tournament would be the way to go to make the conference championships mean something, but the problem is there are 5 Power conferences instead of 4. You could award the top 4 rated POwer Conference champions an automatic bye, and then have the 5th go into an 8 team First Round playoff to see which four teams play the conference champs. I agree that this year will expose the fact that the conference championship is not that important. It's very likely that Penn State/Bucky winner...
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Re: Playoffs

Grave Digger ·
I agree with you about the conference consolidation, but I think they need to adopt the NFL playoff system and go to a 6 team playoff. 4 conference winners, 2 wildcard teams. 1 and 2 get a BYE, 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5. That way you're not penalizing teams for getting bumped out of a major conference, and good teams who lose competitive divisions still have a shot.
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Re: Playoffs

Grave Digger ·
#1 and #2 get the byes, that seems pretty simple. Teams who win their conference SHOULD be ranked in the top 5, it's not easy to win a gauntlet of interconference play, even the PAC12.
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Re: Playoffs

MichiganPacker ·
Washington is up 31-7 in the 3rd quarter. There in. 1. Alabama (win or lose the SEC championship) 2. Ohio State 3. Washington Clemson if they beat Virginia Tech
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Re: Playoffs

Tschmack ·
They won their conference and have one loss. At this point I don't know how you can argue Wisconsin (with 2 losses) should be in over Washington. Wisconsin had their chance but couldn't close the deal against O$U and that really sucks considering where they are right now. They beat the Bucks and win tonight they are in.
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Re: Playoffs

Pikes Peak ·
Chris Peterson, James Franklin and Paul Chryst are pleading with the committee to rank them no higher than fifth. Relax, I know they aren't. Wisc/Penn State Vs Wash in the Rose Bowl would be a good game. Badgers would of course be my preference. I hope Clemson has a rough time tonite, dropping them to 4. Put Mich at 3 vs 2 OSU. Bama, OSU, Mich and Clemson are IMO the best 4 teams.
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Re: Dos A Cero

Chongo ·
Klinsy and his "jeenyus" 3-5-2 yielded that goal USA should be up in this game
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Re: Dos A Cero

Chongo ·
3-5-2 fukkin kraut slurping motherfukker! (It's OK my mom is German, I can drop the K-word)
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

PackerBackerDPM ·
+ Offense almost played a full 2 quarters of football - Defense almost played a full quarter of football
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

packerboi ·
Pos: I got to air out my house in Mid-November in Sconnie Land. Neg: Major changes are warranted on this team, including Ted if Mark Murphy feels it's time. This is just a poorly talented team IMO. When you have guys like Brice, Hawkins, Goodson, Fackrell, Perillo, Davis etc playing key roles on this team...these are just guys. Period. You can find a slew of these kind of players all over the NFL. Not to mention 1st round players in Datone Jones and Nick Perry who also look like, well, just...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

pkr_north ·
+ I did get to wash and wax the car and change the oil in the snowblower, so there's that. - like others have said, i didn't even try to watch the game, only listen to it on radio, that is not really a good thing for the packers. there is no excitement right now, its spreading and I am not sure how the team will change things...seems beyond 1 or 2 players or even the coach, it seems like its systemic. it pains me to say this. it hurts.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Diggr14 ·
You are right man, that just goes to show how bad our division is right now. If they can take care of business in division (win all 3 at the end of season) and win 3 of the next 4 games. They finish 10-6 and that would be good enough. 9-7 might be cutting it.. so 2-2 coupled with winning the last 3 might be good enough too... but they need to win those division games for certain.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

RoyalWulff ·
Game not on in my area, but I saw last week's game, so I think that's enough aggravation for one month. However, I would like to ask ... Was there more "energy" out there? Did Rodgers' comments result in a little more attitude? Last week they looked like Granny had just died.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Pistol GB ·
No sir, if anything it was worse. The dagger was just when the defense finally makes a stop and we are supposed to get the ball back down "only" by 13, Daniels gets an Unsporstmanlike Conduct penalty to keep the drive alive. Titans scored a play or 2 later to go up by 20 late in the 3rd quarter and you could tell it was over at that point. A putrid ending to a putrid performance. Before that, the Titans made the defense look like high schoolers and the offense looked like granny did in fact...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Timmy! ·
+ Individual performances by Adams and Cobb. Starks did reasonably well. Spriggs did pretty good for coming in cold. He's still got work to do, though. Hell, I'm even going to give Barclay a '+'. At least he wasn't a turnstile today! - Lost to a 4-5 team, after losing to a 3-5 team the week before. No pass rush. None. No defense. None. 7-0 before folks have found their seats, 21-0 at the end of the 1st qtr, and 5 TDs by halftime is NOT good football. Yeah, being fairly decimated by injury is...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

H5 ·
Missed the 2-4 qtrs and probably won't watch based on the comments during the game and the final score. Watched Rodger's post game presser, numerous times he had a smirk when responding to how this or that can be fixed. Almost an "oh **** it" kind of response. If that's the case, McCarthy has lost the team.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

h_i_mcdonnough ·
+ got to see packers in my hometown and in person. good packer fan attendance for tailgating and in the stadium. great pregame flyover and tribute to 101st airborne. - listen to local sports radio for next week! team plays with no passion, seems like this team takes for granted to be on field and in packer uniform, no passion or pride. couple of other observations: during the national anthem, cobb and nelson assisted the solders in holding the flag. while titans players were all in a single...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

derps ·
I think the big positive I take from the game is that the loss happened the same day my poop looked like Arby's Curly fries. Now, I know what you are thinking, how is that related and how is that positive? The loss is a waste, as is the poop. The spin is the poop shaped curly fries presented something beautiful and unique, giving hope to what should have been a simple floater or a long flat shaped submarine that just sank to the bottom with no character. The Packers are a game out of first...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

WolfPack ·
very cool. we're staying at AKL. spent sunday afternoon at Typhoon Lagoon and saw 2 guys with Packer hats. after the score popped up on my phone, I didnt even feel like engaging with the other poor chaps. zero energy or excitement throughout the whole organization and fans. just a stale operation that needs a shake-up and much cutting of dead weight
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Cavetoad ·
Sunrise or sunset? Either way, it's going to be amazing.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Ghost of Lambeau ·
The guy did say that for him he did not see the explosive speed. To me that means the change in gear right off the line that gets initial separation. But it does show him catching the ball in traffic. And he did not have the same coach or offensive system for 2 years in a row in college - and had to change his body type given the role he was to play. And all this maybe results in a player with not quite enough skill in any one area to flash at the pro level consistently. I think the guy in...
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board

MichiganPacker ·
Brian Kelly would also have to be fired. In 2015, Brian Kelly's ND went 10-3 and ended up #11 in the final poll. They lost by 2 points at Clemson (#2 in final poll), by 2 points at Stanford (#3), and to Ohio State in the bowl game (#4). Yes. Notre Dame is down this year, but I can't imagine them firing him less than a year removed from an outstanding season.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board

Timpranillo ·
And he killed a kid in 2010.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board

RochNyFan ·
Brian Kelly is much like MM....very stubborn, overly loyal to terrible assistant coaches, can't commit to the run game, and is not able to adjust during a game. Just watch tape of the game they played in near hurricane conditions a few weeks ago at North Carolina State (a game that should have never been played) and explain why Kelly was compelled to stick to a shotgun formation, empty backfield and continue to throw the ball. Then he threw the center under the bus after the game for some...
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Re: 2 years ago...

Grave Digger ·
Passing 2014 Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Lng Y/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk% Aaron Rodgers 341 520 65.6 4381 38 7.3 5 80 8.4 12.8 273.8 112.2 5.1 2016 Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Lng Y/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk% Aaron Rodgers 233 369 63.1 2410 22 6.0 7 58 6.5 10.3 267.8 93.9 5.6 Not a huge dropoff, TD% is lower and Yards/Attempt is lower. INTs are up, telling me he's forcing the ball more or someone else is fukking up. There have been a couple tipped passes that have been picked which aren'this...
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Re: 2 years ago...

H5 ·
Health and balance. McCarthy is real good when he has all his tools. Might be because of his we do what we do mentality/stubbornness, or it might be he can't be or isn't as innovative as he needs to be. 2 years ago they didn't have a real threat at TE, but they were fairly loaded at WR and Lacy was near the top of his game, so that balanced things. Getting Cook back will help, but only if they can also get something from Starks and Michael. The defense is really struggling, and a potent...
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board

Ghost of Lambeau ·
If a coach has a 10 year life expectancy with a team Saban should be available next off season too. I'd love to tell my wife "No - I am not going to pain the walls - we are only going to be here for ten years - 2 maybe if I don't win". Probably a good way to get divorced.
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Re: 2 years ago...

FLPACKER ·
I know, pts. are the only thing that really matter, however I find it pretty amazing that if a team wins those two stats; 1) Which team won the turn over battle 2) Which team had a higher "average yards per pass attempt", they win the game over 90% of the time. We can talk about all the other stuff but if; 1) Our defense was forcing more turnovers 2) Our offense was making more big plays in the passing game, we would not be in the situation we are in. I think last year we were 7-0 when this...
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Re: 2 years ago...

Satori ·
2 years ago ? ..... X4 posters were kvetching, pissing and moaning about the Packers offense (even though it was the best in the league) https://packers.timesfour.com/t...print-for-beating-gb Lather rinse repeat. Mensas ? No. Menses ? Absolutely Carry on...
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Re: 2 years ago...

Henry ·
Excuse me. It's manses.
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Re: Our not so Special Teams

fightphoe93 ·
You are far more forgiving than I am, not to mention Mike McCarthy wasn't forgiving either. McCarthy made the correct call in sacrificing Slocum after that game. The truth is, as a coaching staff, Seattle completely humiliated the Pack from a special teams point of view that day. Special teams wasn't the only reason for that loss but probably 2 of the 3 or 4 biggest gaffes of that game were all from the ST crew.
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Re: Our not so Special Teams

SteveLuke ·
MM forgave Slocum's terrible STs for years before they were so bad, in such a big game, in front of the entire nation, that he finally, finally fired the son of his buddy RC Slocum. He then hired another buddy and the STs remain anything but special.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?

BrainDed ·
The Good: Our rookie LT who needs 2 years in the weight room is a better guard than our backup guard. I don't have to listen to TT ball washers talk about how awesome it is that we sign more UDFA's than anyone else anymore. It's obvious we are lacking talent so please STFU already. The Bad: Rollins is another wasted high round defensive pick. Hot garbage. I thought he was going to be a player, yikes. The Ugly: Micah Hyde having a roster spot indicates nontalent on the roster or piss poor...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?

Timmy! ·
The good: Once again, a lot of individual players having good performances that amount to nothing in the end. Spriggs was probably the nicest surprise. The bad: Anything and everyone that has any connection to our current defense. To say that we have been decimated by injury would be an understatement. And we have guys playing hurt who have no business being on the field, but they are put out there to trot around the best they can simply because there's nobody else available. Our veterans,...
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Re: Our not so Special Teams

YATittle ·
And the note above blaming it on young UDFAs ignores the fact that Hawk and Bostic, the two responsible for the biggest stupid plays, don't fit that category. Brad Jones on the field goal doesn't either.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?

FLPACKER ·
Defense just can not make a play. 2 plays last night could have swung the game; 1) If the ball that Peppers batted in the air had been located 2) If Joe Thomas was a split second quicker in getting to the ball that bounced up off a Redskin on the sideline, we would have had 2 Turn overs. All game I kept thinking that we were going to need to force a TO to win......it just does not happen.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?

DH13 ·
The D is playing a lot of guys that aren't full time starters either by skill or by inexperience. Why does "Joe Thomas look bad"? Because he's a 3rd ILB/rover that makes plays while the other two starting ILB's do their job. Problem is we were out of starting ILB's the last two weeks so he's been forced to start. Add a topping of Sam Bradford and I don't know how you wouldn't struggle. " Why do Rollins and Gunter look so bad"? Because one isn't ready to start, may still be injured and should...
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