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@Paulimig: #Packers are now the 28th-ranked run defense in the NFL in yards allowed per game. Packers were ranked 3rd in the NFL after seven games.

@TomSilverstein: Unless I missed something, #Lions' 241 yards rushing vs, #Packers is most since Barry Sanders-led team beat Indy on Nov. 23, 1997 (249).

no kidding. when that bear game started I was thinking 6-2 and an eye towards a first round bye. now were home for the playoffs.

The team had 2 choices when Rodgers went down - rally around each other or use it as an excuse and go through the motions. the fact that the entire team, minus a few players like Lacy, went the latter route really makes me question the entire staff.

let us never speak of this month again.

Hope Ted can make all the right moves this offseason.

From 3rd to 28th!  Un F'n believable!!  

Keep calm and carry on.  Belly fire is not good!

The most embarrasing loss by the Pack in as far back as I can remember. Just shameful how they played, all across the board, minus a few turnovers. Lions totally kicked their asses, and I did not see fire and spirit to stop the arse whooping. If lucky, they might win 2 more games, kinda doubt that though with the way the OL and D are playing right now.

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Here's the thing I love about Emery. When he sees a problem or deficiency, he attacks it via multiple angles.

As others have said, the past five weeks have shown us just how important ARod is to this team, how much he covers up for the weaknesses, and the many, many weaknesses that need to be fixed for this team to be effective.

For the first time in many years, I can say I am truly disappointed in McCarthy.  His playcalling has been atrocious - predictable and unimaginative, and his ability to get his team to play inspired football and rally around Rodgers' injury is unacceptable.  All they had to do was win ONE game without Rodgers and they would still be in position to win the division.  Instead, they folded.  People like to place the blame on Capers, but I see no talent on the defensive side of the ball except for Matthews, and little heart outside of Daniels and maybe Jolly.  They really need to blow the defense up - let Raji and Pickett go, cut Hawk, cut Jennings and use some cap to bring in at least some mid-level free agents.  Its great to build through the draft...as long as you make good picks, something Thompson has had little luck with on defense.

As far as offense, the o-line needs a center and a legitimate left tackle or Rodgers is going to get killed.  The playcalling is unbelievably predictable.  Run Lacy up the middle on first and second down, go with Kuhn in the backfield on 3rd down and watch the defense pin their ears back.  Early in the game when the Lions (or for that matter, Giants, Eagles) were stuffing the box with 7 or eight on 1st down, why not try some play action with Lacy and try a pass?  

In some ways, I am almost relieved that they may be sitting out this post season for I think they would have been truly embarrassed by teams like N.O., San Fran or Seattle.   

For the first time in many years, I can say I am truly disappointed in McCarthy.  His playcalling has been atrocious - predictable and unimaginative, and his ability to get his team to play inspired football and rally around Rodgers' injury is unacceptable.  All they had to do was win ONE game without Rodgers and they would still be in position to win the division.  Instead, they folded. 

Eggfrigginxactly

Whiners.

Even the cop.

Man up. Wipe your tears and hug your kids.

You still have Fedya to pick on.

The Packers are 0-4-1 in their last 5, not because of the defense in my opinion. It's because TT gambled with Harrell, Coleman and Young and lost. TT was 0-3 with those three. Wallace was forced onto the team with absolutely zero preseason with the Packers. And Tolzien was forced into. Game action with absolutely zero preparation.

Failure of having an adequate contingency in the event Rodgers missed a few games is the downfall of the 2013 Packers.

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You still have Fedya to pick on.

TT will stick with the "draft and develop" philosophy.  See how well that has turned out for GB.  TT needs to drastically change his philosophy.  He has got to start adding some FA's and possible trades in the off-season.

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Failure of having an adequate contingency in the event Rodgers missed a few games is the downfall of the 2013 Packers.

Well said.  I could not have said it better myself.  MM has to be held accountable and critized for this team's performance over the past 5 weeks.

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He has got to start adding some FA's and possible trades in the off-season.

How many of you put that $100 on the Packers to win the Super Bowl?

I thought you liked wine. 

.......after today, it's not "like"..........  it's "need".

TT is fine, MM freakin needs to get his head out of his a$$ or get some one else to call the plays, and Capers needs to go after this season.  And, we need some kind of vaccine to cure that freakin injury bug. 

I think the tv shot showing Rodgers and Flynn at the end  of the game was priceless.  And then, minutes later the shot of Jordy out did it.  To quote The Dead....'what a long strange trip it's been'.

Same can be said about draft picks.

Part of that is the shiity play. But it's also because of the offense not being able to sustain drives which puts the D right back on the field. It also has to do with the lopsided TOP.

Maybe you should change your name to "Booger"?

Right now I'd say that the Packers are one of the worst 3-4 teams in the NFL. Playing the hapless vikings to a tie convinced me of that. Getting Aaron Rodgers back is not going to instantly change that situation. It's true that other teams play us differently when he's in, but I think our problems run deeper than just having our #1 QB out. It's systemic.

We've been getting steadily worse since the SB. TT has not done a good job of putting quality players on the field. We have one of the best QBs in the game, possibly someone who could become one of the best in NFL history. But his talent is being wasted by not having other players of his caliber who compliment him. We don't need to field an all-star team, but we really only have one or two pro-bowl quality players on our team. That's not enough for a SB run. TT has got to do what it takes to get more blue chip players on the team.

Others have talked about MM's play calling. I personally think he's a pretty good head coach. How else would he have a team as a SB contender without the quality players like some of the other contenders have, so he's doing something right. But he needs more imagination in the play calling.

Our defense sucks, and has for a number of years. That fact has been disguised because our offense usually puts up 30-35 points. To be a SB contender, we need a shut down defense. Either Caper's schemes are bad, the players are bad, or the schemes don't fit the players we have. Maybe the players aren't smart enough to understand what they're supposed to be doing. I agree with everyone else that Dom's time has come and gone. We need a new DC who can analyze what's going on in today's NFL and can come up with a scheme that best utilizes the players we have (or ones we can get.)

Injuries have been up around the league, but the Packers seem to be especially jinxed. 3 out of the last 4 years we've been decimated by injuries. Once again, TT needs to provide more depth. (I hope Roger Goodell is paying attention to how much the talent is diluted around the NFL. We need fewer teams, not more.) As far as the Packer's injuries, our training staff is missing something. It's true they can't do anything to prevent broken bones, but they should be able to prevent all those hamstring injuries. Good grief, Clay Matthews pulls his hamstring every year. Why aren't they using modern sports medicine to make sure the players are prepared? 

I don't know if this is too much to correct in one off season, but the Packer organization really needs to take a hard look at themselves.

The QB guru had significant input in the backup situation and he deserves his share of the blame. I wish it was that simple, but the problems on this team extend well beyond the failure at the QB position.

"Good grief, Clay Matthews pulls his hamstring every year. Why aren't they using modern sports medicine to make sure the players are prepared?"

Watch it, or I'll post every injury every team has ever had to "debunk" your claim! 

I sense frustration.......

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Once again, TT needs to provide more depth. (I hope Roger Goodell is paying attention to how much the talent is diluted around the NFL. We need fewer teams, not more.)

TT has provided depth, but when you are down to your 3rd string center and right tackle and QB there's not much you can do.

I agree that the NFL really needs to look at this issue because for whatever reason there seems to be a significant amount of injuries this year to key players and it's not just GB.   Houston and ATL are just as bad and they were playoff teams last year.  

I'd be all for moving out the trading deadline and even expanding the active rosters by a few players.   TT could certainly improve the team through those streams and not that it could have saved them in this losing streak but who knows?  Maybe he's able to deal for a QB or OL.     

Thats a good post and I agree with most of it. Remember that AR fell to us as a fluke and Teddy traded UP to CM111. We have had a few busts in the draft, also we lost players to season or even career ending injuries.

Did you believe that when the team was 5-2 with a healthy Rodgers.???

All teams have warts, and the elite QBs in the league are able to cover up a lot of the warts.  But the Packers have had absolutely no "adequate" temporary replacement for Rodgers being out for a few games.  TT gambled with Harrell and Coleman is lost.  He brought in Young at the start of camp and lost.  He was forced to bring in Wallace without any prep time in the Packers O (and lost) followed by being forced to play Tolzien (and start him) after just being signed earlier in the week.

The Packers aren't even really playing with "the backup".  They're playing with a 5th or 6th string QB with virtually no prep with the current team.  Flynn is brought in and is clearly NOT the player he was a few years ago (injury,maybe).

Rodgers under Center makes the whole team a lot better.

Do the Packers go 0-4-1 with Rodgers as the QB? I doubt anyone (deepchit included), anywhere, would believe they would.

Do the Packers go 0-4-1 with Rodger & Cobb? No way.

Do the Packers go 0-4-1 with Rodgers, Cobb, & Finley? They'd probably be 10-2 right now.

Does McCarthy call a different game without these players? I don't think so, and that to me is a problem. We are who we are... we do what we do... 

Apparently you missed the 35-0 shutout at home against the Patriots in 2006, followed by a 38-10 beatdown at home by the Jets two weeks later.  That left us 4-8 with our first year coach MM (we rallied to finish 8-8)

The coacing staff and gm made a mistake. They thought any schlub wanna be QB would be ok as a backup. They were proven wrong. Flynn showed why he couldn't succeed anywhere else. Fumbling a snap from center is inexcusable.  Send him packing today. No reason to take playing time away from Tolzien.

I see two differences between Flynn and Tolzien. On one hand Flynn has almost no zip on his throws where Tolzien seems to have a strong arm. On the other hand Flynn understands the O very well where Tolzien is still learning. Will Flynn's arm inprove? Maybe, if his lack of strength is the result of the elbow issue from last year. Can Tolzien become a better game manager? Given the two I'd say it's at least worth a look next TC and pre-season to see if Tolzien can take a step forward. Tolzein is under contract for 2014 where Flynn is not.

If Rodgers can't go in 9 days -vs- ATL, do you stick with Flynn or take another shot with Tolzien?