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Bevell gets a bad rap for that, Seattle was something like 1 for 4 running the ball in that situation during the season, and NE was in their goalline defense which would have left one defender unblocked on a run. Chances are that Lynch would have gone no where on a run. However a roll out pass / run option with Wilson seemed more logical. 

CAPackFan95 posted

Curious - how many years does MM get a pass from any and all accountability simply because he won a Super Bowl 6 years ago?  10?  20?  

I get that it's minimum 6.  Just trying to understand what the statute of limitations are here... 

He doesn't get a pass. But he isn't the reason we're spoiled into expecting 30+ points and 300+ passing yards every game. He also isn't in commercials or the public eye during the off season. Aaron Rodgers is. And Aaron Rodgers is a QB. 

I think the Packers have a lot of defects offensively not related to the QB and the QB isn't good enough to fix them. Can't prove it as long as the same play caller and system remains.  Rodgers was wearing the same defeated look all game as in Denver last year. I don't like that look. 

Boris posted:

It's time for some big changes in Green Bay.. Very big changes

Indeed it is, Boris. I wanted to be rid of MM last year. In reality, he wrecked the 2014 season with awful play calling settling for FG's in the NFCC game against Seattle.

But what about TT? Where is his responsibility here? Making the playoffs with AR playing as he used to play is no great achievement when you actually think about it. Having the best means they should have done more, and so far they haven't.

 

MichiganPacker2 posted:

MM is basically Schottenheimer with a ring. He's a top 20 coach all time. He's made the playoffs 8 times in 10 years. He's had one losing season in 10 years. He's made it to the NFC Championship game 3 times in 10 years.

Right now, who would you rather have in the NFL as a head coach other than Belichick? Mike Zimmer maybe? The list is pretty short. Seriously, Darrell Bevell? The guy that called a pass play at the goal line in the Seattle-New England Super Bowl game with Marshawn Lynch available? 

MM did it with 2 QB's named Favre and Rodgers. With Rodgers being all time incredible those years.

The team is stale, particularly the offense, in fact it is rancid.

The incredible Rodgers play covered a lot of warts, a lot of mediocrity surrounding the team. Now that he isn't playing at that level, all the warts, and the mediocrity, are more evident.

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excalibur posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:

MM is basically Schottenheimer with a ring. He's a top 20 coach all time. He's made the playoffs 8 times in 10 years. He's had one losing season in 10 years. He's made it to the NFC Championship game 3 times in 10 years.

Right now, who would you rather have in the NFL as a head coach other than Belichick? Mike Zimmer maybe? The list is pretty short. Seriously, Darrell Bevell? The guy that called a pass play at the goal line in the Seattle-New England Super Bowl game with Marshawn Lynch available? 

MM did it with 2 QB's named Favre and Rodgers. With Rodgers being all time incredible those years.

The team is stale, particularly the offense, in fact it is rancid.

The incredible Rodgers play covered a lot of warts, a lot of mediocrity surrounding the team. Now that he isn't playing at that level, all the warts, and the mediocrity, are more evident.

The year before MM arrived as head coach, Favre had year where he threw for 20 TDS and 29 interceptions. Those numbers went to 18/18 in MM's first year and then 28/15 and an NFC Championship game. Rodgers was not exactly a sure thing when he arrived in GB and looked pretty ordinary in the preseason games during his first 2 years. MM had positive effects on both Favre and Rodgers. Maybe they need a shakeup, but often making a move away from a proven head coach to get someone new and shiny is more likely a step back. 

Apologies to MM. Rodgers checked to that QB draw himself. It was supposed to be a pass, which has its own issues, but the play call was on eAR per Tom Silverstein. Shots were taken at MM's late 1st half strategy. Some defense Capers tried at the beginning of the game that had Burnett playing LB and the players never adjusted. And of course Gunter. Who was asked to play the wide side of the field and could not do it.

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