Starting a new thread since this is a new year, new moves.
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That's what I told my wife "new year, new moves."
She was unimpressed.
Clockwise or counterclockwise swirl?
âStopping shortâ - my never fail go to!
Hum the alphabet, when you're headed down south.
Oh! Right....Free Agency....
CJ Moseley & a couple OG's please - wouldn't mind a good value FA at WR & TE either like a John Brown or Tyler Eifert. I know about Eifert's injury history but damn if that guy could stay healthy, he'd be a superstar
With The Packers injury history, Eifert will get injured at Austin Straubel,
Brainwashed Boris posted:Hum the alphabet, when you're headed down south.
Oh! Right....Free Agency....
CJ Moseley & a couple OG's please - wouldn't mind a good value FA at WR & TE either like a John Brown or Tyler Eifert. I know about Eifert's injury history but damn if that guy could stay healthy, he'd be a superstar
No players made of glass please.
DH13 posted:Clockwise or counterclockwise swirl?
More like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us62suaGGyI
In an interview with PG, Rooney even went so far as to say it would be âhard to envisionâ Antonio Brown being with the Steelers when they report to training camp in July.
â Gerry Dulac (@gerrydulac) January 10, 2019
Broncos sign Don Barclay to a futures contract.
Does he have a future?
I'm a bit out of touch with who is expected to be tagged and who isn't. I'm going to assume guys like Clowney and Ford will be tagged.
I think GB can fill a few holes with some quality dudes though. I like Preston Smith (OLB), Earl Thomas (S), Landon Collins (S), Tyrann Mathieu (S), Trent Brown (OT), CJ Mosely (MLB), Za'Darius Smith (OLB), etc...
Gotta be able to snag a few dudes. Who ya got your eye on?
#Chiefs have signed RB Aaron Ripkowski to a Reserve/Futures contract.
â Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 1, 2019
After 17 NFL season, Julius Peppers announced his retirement. He finishes fourth all time on the NFLâs sack list, behind Bruce Smith, Reggie White and Kevin Greene - all Hall of Famers.
â Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 1, 2019
....and no rings for Julius - thanks for telling your guy to "get down!" Instead of trying to score.
Enjoy retirement!
michiganjoe posted:#Chiefs have signed RB Aaron Ripkowski to a Reserve/Futures contract.
â Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 1, 2019
Are the Chefs in need a FB that completely misses blocks on run plays? Andy Reid is an innovator, pretty soon FB's lacking awareness are going to be the new NFL fad.
michiganjoe posted:After 17 NFL season, Julius Peppers announced his retirement. He finishes fourth all time on the NFLâs sack list, behind Bruce Smith, Reggie White and Kevin Greene - all Hall of Famers.
â Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 1, 2019
Wonder who he will go into the HOF as - probably a Panther...
pkr_north posted:michiganjoe posted:After 17 NFL season, Julius Peppers announced his retirement. He finishes fourth all time on the NFLâs sack list, behind Bruce Smith, Reggie White and Kevin Greene - all Hall of Famers.
â Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 1, 2019Wonder who he will go into the HOF as - probably a Panther...
You're joking, right. There is no "team designation" in NFL hall of fame...
The question gets asked for every single player that may go into the HOF.
DH13 posted:The question gets asked for every single player that may go into the HOF.
And it's not relevant.
lol
And yet people keep asking it.
asking what?
Who's on first
A thread that is supposed to be about Free Agency has gone down the shitter.
The aristocrats!
This thread needs to get it's shit together.
Birds....Feathers
Are we talking about inductions or indictments now?
This site is at its best without game threads.
I mean.
Really?!?!?!?
Source: The Miami Herald - Barry Jackson
Updating a previous report, Darren Rizzi has agreed to join the New Orleans Saints as their special-teams coordinator, a source reported Friday, Feb. 1.
I have NFI why the Packers didn't hire this guy - Murphy didn't think he was a "good fit" I guess....Whatever TF that means
Guy who wants to be head coach and will undermine new head coach?
Could be. Reasonable question.
I'm warming up to digger's theory Pettine doesn't need to focus resources on OLB. If your highest rated prospect at #12 is an OLB then take him. If not then go DL, OL, ILB, TE whatever. Our DL will be the engine for pass rush and we need more talent behind them. Go after Mosely if he's not tagged.
I was responding to someone posting an OLB strategy that disappeared.
CUPackFan posted:How I'd fix the Packers OLB problem:
1) Cut Nick Perry. This guy played the financial game right - showed just enough in his first 4 years to make his 5th season look like a break out and cash in on free agency, only to revert back to the injury plagued player he was early in his career once he got the money. Big cap hit here but they just need him gone.
There's been a repeated story about Perry and his practice habits under MM and Moss. Apparently, well, there wasn't much of them. Story goes Perry was lazy as fu** during closed practices and barely did anything. MM would coddle him using Perry's latest umpteenth injury as an excuse and Moss turned the other way and didn't give a shit.
It rubbed a lot of other guys the wrong way who actually, you know, practiced and practiced hard yet weren't getting playing time.
Seems like we're hearing more and more about the complacency under MM in his later years. And the more we hear, the more I'm shaking my head.
Sorry DH, just moved my OLB post to the "How many positions....." thread. Felt it fit better there since this thread looks to be aimed at actual transactions. Sorry, I'm home sick today and bored so figured I'd start projecting the Packers 2019 season!!
packerboi posted:CUPackFan posted:How I'd fix the Packers OLB problem:
1) Cut Nick Perry. This guy played the financial game right - showed just enough in his first 4 years to make his 5th season look like a break out and cash in on free agency, only to revert back to the injury plagued player he was early in his career once he got the money. Big cap hit here but they just need him gone.
There's been a repeated story about Perry and his practice habits under MM and Moss. Apparently, well, there wasn't much of them. Story goes Perry was lazy as fu** during closed practices and barely did anything. MM would coddle him using Perry's latest umpteenth injury as an excuse and Moss turned the other way and didn't give a shit.
It rubbed a lot of other guys the wrong way who actually, you know, practiced and practiced hard yet weren't getting playing time.
Seems like we're hearing more and more about the complacency under MM in his later years. And the more we hear, the more I'm shaking my head.
Wow! I am kind of scratching my head as to why you coddle someone who is constantly hurt and never sees the field. I was strongly on the keep MM camp but the more I hear and read I was totally wrong.
As for Perry's cap hit I could be wrong (and please correct me if I am) but wouldn't the dead money hit be over 10M? I would like to see the guy gone but can they afford to do that?
This was a MM quote on excusing Perry's lackluster play despite playing in all 8 games to this point in the season. He had 1.5 sacks at this point. Many were wondering if Perry was still injured, then why does he keep starting. And keep sucking..
McCarthy says OLB Nick Perry is still working his way back from the ankle surgery he had during the offseason. "That's part of his challenge right now." #Packers
â Michael Cohen (@Michael_Cohen13) November 5, 2018
DH13 posted:I'm warming up to digger's theory Pettine doesn't need to focus resources on OLB. If your highest rated prospect at #12 is an OLB then take him. If not then go DL, OL, ILB, TE whatever. Our DL will be the engine for pass rush and we need more talent behind them. Go after Mosely if he's not tagged.
I was responding to someone posting an OLB strategy that disappeared.
GD is a dumdum.
Dom Capers sucks!
Iâd like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB. Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...aced-injured-reserve
The Packers structured Perry's most recent contract, which contained an $18.5 million signing bonus, so that they could move on after the 2018 season and actually gain salary-cap space. Perry is due a $4.8 million roster bonus if he's on the team on the third day of the league year in 2019, so if the Packers cut him before that March date they would wipe that and his $5.2 million base salary off their cap.
They would have to count the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus against their cap, but could defer some of that by designating him as a June 1 cut. If they cut him without the June 1 designation, they would save $3.6 million off their 2019 cap. If they used that designation, they would save $11.1 million.
So you're saying there is no reason NOT to cut him.
The Heckler posted:Wow! I am kind of scratching my head as to why you coddle someone who is constantly hurt and never sees the field.
Because Winston Moss is a POS.
Perry has $11.1m of dead money if cut this year, which can be spread over 2019 ($3.7M) and 2020 ($7.4m). If he's back, Packers owe him $10.6m in salary and bonuses, making him a $14.3m cap hit in 2019. It sucks but I'd rather take the cap hit rather than pay him another dime this year. I was all for bringing him back after his contract year but I was wrong.
You draft OLB at 12. Polite, Sweat or Ferrell will be there... maybe a few others that creep up on boards. That position has the ability to single handedly change the landscape of a defense. It's why the best pass rushers in the NFL never see FA. The only way to get them is in the draft. Take a ****ing OLB at 12!!
Henry posted:GD is a dumdum.
Dom Capers sucks!
Iâd like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB. Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available.
Shows how much you know, thereâs a bidding war for Dom Capers services right now. Heâs already turned down the DC role with the Bengals and two other teams want him. Suck on that, bonerz.
is that a portmanteau of Bong, Henry and Pakrz?
Pakrz posted:You draft OLB at 12. Polite, Sweat or Ferrell will be there... maybe a few others that creep up on boards. That position has the ability to single handedly change the landscape of a defense. It's why the best pass rushers in the NFL never see FA. The only way to get them is in the draft. Take a ****ing OLB at 12!!
This
Grave Digger posted:Henry posted:GD is a dumdum.
Dom Capers sucks!
Iâd like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB. Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available.
Shows how much you know, thereâs a bidding war for Dom Capers services right now. Heâs already turned down the DC role with the Bengals and two other teams want him. Suck on that, bonerz.
Fantasy
Kareem Hunt signs with Browns. I am glad he stayed in the AFC and is not in Chicago. I would hate to see the current group of Packers Linebackers chasing this guy all over the field.
Not particularly impressed with that move from Dorsey.
I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didnât matter nearly as much as winning.
See Tyrick Hill, etc.
As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isnât my thing.
Someone was going to sign him eventually.
Exactly. It's not like he kneeled for the National Anthem
El-Ka-Bong posted:is that a portmanteau of Bong, Henry and Pakrz?
packerboi posted:I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didnât matter nearly as much as winning.
See Tyrick Hill, etc.
As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isnât my thing.
You mean like Letroy Guion?
https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...charges-in-the-past/
Reporter: Where does the team stand on violence against women?
â Maggie Gray (@MaggieGray) February 12, 2019
Dorsey: "Ownership has spoken on that before, Iâm not going to be the spokesperson for the organization with regards to that."
Continue to be unimpresed with Dorsey.
Why? This is really no different from sportswriters asking the same question of a coach repeatedly in a post-game press conference.
if some team had to sign Hunt I'm just glad it was AFC. I did not want to see the bores do that.
Not that there was a whole lot of hope for the Steelers to retain him, but this is blowing up all over twitter right now..
Thank you SteelerNation for a big 9 years...time to move on and forward..........âð― #NewDemands pic.twitter.com/fbIoFNdqK4
â Antonio Brown (@AB84) February 12, 2019
MichiganPacker posted:packerboi posted:I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didnât matter nearly as much as winning.
See Tyrick Hill, etc.
As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isnât my thing.
You mean like Letroy Guion?
https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...charges-in-the-past/
I never got the feeling that Ahman Green had a nice sensitive soft touch with women either. The good news was... there never was any film footage of him beating anybody. I believe he had a couple of accusations against him which definitely made me always wonder if behind the scenes he could be a raging tyrant towards whomever he was with.
Joe Flacco gets traded to teh Broncos.
Good move for Elway ?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...offseason-qb-market/
Nick Foles, and Derrick Carr will be next.
Rumors are OAK will extend Carr.
Too bad DEN won't be taking a QB now in RD1.
Broncs will now go for OL in the draft and FA, gonna have to protect the statue
They are reportedly giving up a mid round pick to get Flacco. Horseface may go OL or somewhere else, but would you really be putting your chips into the middle of the table that Flacco is your guy?
He hasn't looked like a starting QB in years. And years.
This likely means Case Keenum is out the door. Now he'd be in an intriguing back up to #12.
skully posted:Good move for Elway ?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...offseason-qb-market/
Nick Foles, and Derrick Carr will be next.
I think this is a decent move for Elway. It gives him a veteran QB who has won before and who IMHO is vastly under rated. Not a top 5 QB but a pretty good one if he has the players around him.
Now I think Foles kind of sets the market. If he goes to say Jacksonville and the Giants take Haskins that kind of leaves Miami, Oakland (if they get rid of Carr) and probably the Redskins as the most QB needy teams. I would think that one of those teams will go hard after Foles.
Which brings me to a thought. So if the Redskins want their QB in the first round they may want to get in front of the Dolphins who pick at #13 right after the Packers. Perhaps Gute could pick up some extra picks and move down to the Skins spot.
Flacco's rankings at QB out of 36 QB's with at least 1000 attempts, per ESPN since winning the SB. He was the 4th highest paid QB in football:
Cash value | $124M | 4th |
TD-Int ratio | 1.4:1 | 34th << |
1st down pct. | 31% | 35th << |
Yards per att. | 6.5 | 35th << |
That's some pretty consistently shit numbers over the last few years.
packerboi posted:This likely means Case Keenum is out the door. Now he'd be in an intriguing back up to #12.
Then what do you do with Boyle?
It's rare teams keep 3 QB's now even though the Pack did last year. I think they'll still give Kizer a shot too.
Flacco is barely an upgrade over Keenum. Upgrade in arm strength only. I actually think Keenum is a better QB without the physical tools.
I always thought he got lucky on some deep throws, otherwise he threw alot of JUMP balls.
This likely means Case Keenum is out the door. Now he'd be in an intriguing back up to #12.
Or he could go back to Minnesota
Fandame posted:Guy who wants to be head coach and will undermine new head coach?
Good way to hire coaches with no ambition.
Elway is reaching again for Manning-like magic. Guy is too impatient to find and develop a franchise QB, so he keeps hoping to find a one-year spark of magic in a retread.
If Keenum lands in GB, I'd rather keep Boyle than Kizer. Kizer is another Hundley clone that MM seemed to fall in love with, like Wallace, V. Young. MM wanted a QB who could run, but he kept choosing guys who could only run and not pass.
GBFanForLife posted:http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...aced-injured-reserve
The Packers structured Perry's most recent contract, so that they could move on after the 2018 season and actually gain salary-cap space.
They would have to count the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus against their cap, but could defer some of that by designating him as a June 1 cut. If they cut him without the June 1 designation, they would save $3.6 million off their 2019 cap. If they used that designation, they would save $11.1 million.
I can't imagine why they would keep him - June 1st designated cut $11.1 million. YES!
I'm thinking big in FA this year - Clowney & Landon Collins or Earl Thomas
Maybe I'm wrong, but I view Clooney as a guy who is always hurt.
Yep.
Pikes Peak posted:Someone was going to sign him eventually.
Hunt has problems to deal with, so I'm surprised the vikings didn't go after him.
The juice must be going into overdrive for Jay.
I never understood the need to have a Twitter, Facebook or other social media account. Timesfour and a few other comments sections in Packer sites is about all I can handle. Why would one subject oneself to such blathering? And then get offended when some anonymous jerk replyâs?
Sports and entertainment figures donât need these accounts anyway.
Yeah! Why would someone subject themselves to some jerk's blathering?
Per sports gambling website BetOnline.AG:
Antonio Brown team first game of 2019 season
Arizona Cardinals 4/1
Green Bay Packers 9/2
Miami Dolphins 5/1
Oakland Raiders 5/1
San Francisco 49ers 5/1
Indianapolis Colts 7/1
New York Jets 10/1
Washington Redskins 10/1
Cleveland Browns 12/1
Baltimore Ravens 20/1
"why do people think putting stuff like this out in the public sphere serves any purpose? talk about dumbing down..."
Because followers, likes, retweets, etc are the medium of exchange for people who only produce words.
The irony of that tweet is heavy. Why write about stuff that doesn't matter?
Well, he does have a pretty weird head.
I would challenge your assertion about only producing words. Writers produce words in the form of prose or journalism. Most of social media is merely is recycled or plagiaristic group think.
DH13 posted:Rumors are OAK will extend Carr.
Too bad DEN won't be taking a QB now in RD1.
I don't think this precludes Broncos from taking a QB in the draft. Their giving up a 4th. They may be looking for someone other than Keenum to mentor a rookie QB in R1. It would be strange if Flacco had to do this again, but I doubt he has much say in the matter.
packerboi posted:Per sports gambling website BetOnline.AG:
Antonio Brown team first game of 2019 season
Arizona Cardinals 4/1
Green Bay Packers 9/2
Miami Dolphins 5/1
Oakland Raiders 5/1
San Francisco 49ers 5/1
Indianapolis Colts 7/1
New York Jets 10/1
Washington Redskins 10/1
Cleveland Browns 12/1
Baltimore Ravens 20/1
YESSSS!! After they nailled the Khalil Mack and Josh McDaniels odds Iâm sure to put a huge wager on this one!!
Free range jerk blathering is a lost art.
Hungry5 posted:Free range jerk blathering is a lost art.
Not by our friends in the Vikings Suck threadâ
packerboi posted:Per sports gambling website BetOnline.AG:
Antonio Brown team first game of 2019 season
Arizona Cardinals 4/1
Green Bay Packers 9/2
Miami Dolphins 5/1
Oakland Raiders 5/1
San Francisco 49ers 5/1
Indianapolis Colts 7/1
New York Jets 10/1
Washington Redskins 10/1
Cleveland Browns 12/1
Baltimore Ravens 20/1
Just what our young, first year head coach needs....a team cancer diva WR.
Ya, Brown would be a hell of a risk. Complete boom or bust in terms of team chemistry.
Found it interesting his 2019 salary is about 12 mil. The Steelers, even in a trade, will still have to eat a lot of his cap number, which I believe is about 21 mil.
Most pundits are guessing the Steelers will settle for a 2nd or 3rd
"jerk blathering"
I'd take the shot for a 3rd rounder on Brown opposite D. Adams
Pitt's TE Jesse James is a FA. Bring him. He's only 25 years old and 6' 7''.
Brown leaving practice, then skipping the next practice, then showing up expecting to play, is just so weird. That is some extreme shit. You have to doubt whether he's going to just stop acting like that.
Twitter isn't just for social media. You can follow pretty much any news source in existence. It's how I keep up on trade (my job) news and other interests. And there are a handful of really smart and or funny people I follow. I never write anything.
If you're a passing game nerd, look up 'receiver school' on twitter. Fascinating breakdown of route running. I think they also have a 'quarterback school'.
Boris posted:I'd take the shot for a 3rd rounder on Brown opposite D. Adams
Without any hesitation at all - especially for a 12 million dollar cap hit. The only caveat would be if there was any clear domestic violence problems - then I wouldn't want any part of it.
Otherwise, could anybody seriously argue that having Antonio Brown for a couple of years wouldn't be worth trading Oren Burks, Kyler Fackrell, Motravius Adams, Ty Montgomery, or Richard Rodgers for? Because those are the last 5 3rd round picks for the Packers.
His 12 million dollar cap hit is less than Jimmy Graham's next year.
I don't see if as that big a risk. The worst that happens is that he comes in and blows up and you have to cut him. It would be the same thing as if he got hurt in the first game. Would you be that worried about him poisoning the culture? In all seriousness, they could use someone to shake things up like that.
I think he's very likely to behave himself for at least a year. Let him arrive at training camp in a helicopter or drive a car that's worth more than the GDP of a small African Country. Who cares?
I also go back to the fact that Antonio Brown is being painted incorrigible as a terrible problem and a diva (of course he's a diva). His QB should have been in jail for multiple rapes, yet he is now some sort of perfect citizen?
A lot of strawmen in that argument. Not even sure how Rothliesburger being a pile of shit works into Brown not being a cancer in Green Bay.
I'd prefer the new coach to shake things up.