oldschool posted:Henry posted:So 32 NFL teams thought so highly of him he went in the 7th round. Your over the top homer logic is entertaining.
Bart Starr in 17th....Brady in the 6th.
Try again with the failed logic.
Which one is GOAT...you know which one I would pick...but yeah...blows up your argument with pure.....................elegance!
Judging by the response that went over well.
#pleaselikeme
*clicks like on own post*
Maybe its your inner child calling out to your adult self.
ChilliJon posted:oldschool posted:Henry posted:So 32 NFL teams thought so highly of him he went in the 7th round. Your over the top homer logic is entertaining.
Bart Starr in 17th....Brady in the 6th.
Try again with the failed logic.
Which one is GOAT...you know which one I would pick...but yeah...blows up your argument with pure.....................elegance!
12 teams in 1956. 32 teams in 2000.
Brady was pick 199 in 2000. Bart was pick 200 in 1956.
Stop talking. Again.
I'd go with an argument that personnel was not nearly as savvy that many years ago.
But, your tack is BS. No way a Bart Starr with his career is picked ballpark close to the 17th round.
Travis Jersey.. How can you forget him. Didn't he buy a tiger cub or something like that?
That homer clamscaping pic may be the funniest thing i've ever seen here.
I know logic isn't exactly a part of this forum of mostly really old group-think white guys...but arguing that Bart Starr wasn't a 17th round choice is the best one yet.
What can I say? Tip my hat to dementia I guess.
Henry's point that a guy can't be good because he is a 7th rounder and was overlooked by all the other teams obviously proves ...NOTHING.
UHm...hello old white guys...your own team history proves my point ...again.
If round selection was criteria...for ANYTHING...then kick Bart outof the HOF.
17th Rounder!
Hey guy, knock that shit off with your posting
I'm not old
El-Ka-Bong posted:Hey guy, knock that shit off with your posting
I'm not old
My apologies...I said "mostly".
The guys that are obviously....old (alt right white supremacist types) and out of it....Henry, Chili, et al
Kiel too ...but at least he's kind of a cool old focker ...kind of like the guy that keeps a mullet so long it eventually comes back...and then he's cool by accident.
oldschool posted:Henry's point that a guy can't be good because he is a 7th rounder and was overlooked by all the other teams obviously proves ...NOTHING.
UHm...hello old white guys...your own team history proves my point ...again.
My Dearest Elizabeth,
There is an uneasy lull within camp today as the impending battle looms. Each soldier prepares himself differently but the young recruits are still nervous while trying to remain confident. Citizens have come with picnics to watch our training and even to possibly catch a skirmish. The air is saturated with false logic as citizens boast of a glorious victory that will assuredly materialize.
One curious sight has given us respite from our worries. A handful of very white citizens are following around a young private, Ty Summers, proclaiming him to be the very incarnation of Mars himself, the god of war. While we all hope young Summers does become a mighty god of battle the real tonic has been the antics of two of those almost translucent followers. One appears to eat nothing but sugar for every meal and the other who wears a feather and claims his given native name translates to "please like me" have provided endless entertainment. To the chagrin of Private Summers, the men have found the antics uproariously funny and for that we are thankful.
Yours Always,
Elizabeth sure seemed to get around. Just an observation.
camp trollop.
Ms August
DH13 posted:That homer clamscaping pic may be the funniest thing i've ever seen here.
Miss x4?
how can I miss it when I won't go away?
The brilliance of that pic is that your immediate reaction is you're not really sure what you're looking at until it sets in after a few seconds. Kind of like oldskool's posts except funny.
DH, you mean, this one...? Hooooo-Mer!
No nudity on the main forum dipshit.
Works on multiple levels.
DH13 posted:The brilliance of that pic is that your immediate reaction is you're not really sure what you're looking at until it sets in after a few seconds. Kind of like oldskool's posts except funny.
Admitting you don't really know what poon looks like.. in a post trying to disparage me is some level 3 humor.
I had the whole bar around me laughing at that one.
Oh man...LOL...you can't make this stuff up.
Love this place...old white man humor...gotta love it.
Case in point.
Tell us what bar is open at this hour, chiefullofshit?
If your level of familiarity with "poon" involves Homer Simpson's face I'm pretty sure you're quite the expert.
DH13 posted:Case in point.
Tell us what bar is open at this hour, chiefullofshit?
If your level of familiarity with "poon" involves Homer Simpson's face I'm pretty sure you're quite the expert.
I had it on my phone ...at a restaurant bar last night.
Did I say I was at the bar...now? LOL
Do you guys know how ridiculous and racist you look with all this nonsense you throw at me?
oldschool posted:DH13 posted:The brilliance of that pic is that your immediate reaction is you're not really sure what you're looking at until it sets in after a few seconds. Kind of like oldskool's posts except funny.
Admitting you don't really know what poon looks like.. in a post trying to disparage me is some level 3 humor.
I had the whole bar around me laughing at that one.
Oh man...LOL...you can't make this stuff up.
Love this place...old white man humor...gotta love it.
You mean after you said you were at a bar?
My post referring to the pic happened this morning, chiefullofshit. Can't make this stuff up? You just did.
I'm making a judgement: DH's post is the last word on this really dumb divergence from this topic. Any further posts will be edited or deleted. Oldstool is a troll, stop engaging him.
This is getting so tedious I canât even like it.
I'll never be able to watch the simpsons again.
That's the real tragedy here.
Well, to get us back on course, our new Free Agent signing, Markus Jones, just got a sack against HOU.
DH13 posted:Here's your missing K.
Nockk? That doesn't seem right.
What a fu**ing idiot:
Raiders' star wide receiver Antonio Brown is still dealing with a foot injury that is reportedly the result of "extreme frostbite" caused by a cryotherapy machine, ProFootballTalk first reported.
Per reports, Brown was not wearing appropriate footwear when he entered a cryotherapy chamber last month in France which burned his feet and left them frostbitten.
Brown, 31, reportedly saw a foot specialist last week after missing most of Oakland's training camp while battling what was initially reported as "sore feet." The seven-time Pro Bowler shared a photo of his blistered feet to his Instagram story last week and has not practiced since July 30.
Antonio Brown is visiting a foot specialist today, likely dealing with these blisters on his feet (posted via his IG story @ab). Fantasy owners carry on... pic.twitter.com/AuTlOq1dhp
â Jeff Lorenz (@LorenzSportsMed) August 3, 2019
somebody doesn't like TC?
Dan Patrick was just talking about this on the radio, he's done it. Said you wear shorts, gloves, and thick socks. That the booth only fits one typically and that someone escorts you to the booth and watches as you're in it. You're in it for all of a couple of minutes. He couldn't understand how anyone could do this...
Frostbite aside.
Those are feet that not even Rex Ryan could love.
Dude signed for 50 million and 30 mil guaranteed. How friggin' dumb are you...
I cannot wait to start watching Hard Knocks. I believe the 1st episode is this week and for those who don't remember, yes it's this train wreck of a team.
Should make for good reality TV.
As a podiatrist this finally makes sense to me. Iâve been wondering what would do such extensive tissue reaction in what would assume is a very healthy professional athlete. Ultimately heâll be fine but yeah got to protect the skin with that cryo stuff.
PackerBackerDPM posted:As a podiatrist
Nice!
Other end, Tim.
Blair Kiel posted:Other end, Tim.
And a 180 turns it into a procdiatrist
packerboi posted:What a fu**ing idiot:
Raiders' star wide receiver Antonio Brown is still dealing with a foot injury that is reportedly the result of "extreme frostbite" caused by a cryotherapy machine, ProFootballTalk first reported.
Per reports, Brown was not wearing appropriate footwear when he entered a cryotherapy chamber last month in France which burned his feet and left them frostbitten.
Brown, 31, reportedly saw a foot specialist last week after missing most of Oakland's training camp while battling what was initially reported as "sore feet." The seven-time Pro Bowler shared a photo of his blistered feet to his Instagram story last week and has not practiced since July 30.
Antonio Brown is visiting a foot specialist today, likely dealing with these blisters on his feet (posted via his IG story @ab). Fantasy owners carry on... pic.twitter.com/AuTlOq1dhp
â Jeff Lorenz (@LorenzSportsMed) August 3, 2019
How in the hell can he be smiling in that photo? And those are some ugly assed big toes.
His captains are the shapes of spades. Racist?
Wow. Yay crypto. Idiot. Raiders front office? Proud.
Well, it said Brown did the cryo in France so that explains it! This past summer in Europe we noticed that slides in swimming pools had the red light-green light, but no guards at the top or bottom; there were no signs near waterfalls warning of slipperiness on wet rocks; no "climb at own risk" warnings on rocky beaches; and worst of all, no health warnings when in hot tubs. Sheesh, you'd almost think that people had to think for themselves and use common sense. Brown obviously had to follow directions and use common sense... and he failed!
Compensation update: Texans traded a conditional 4th-round pick in 2020 that can become a 3rd-round pick to the Browns for running back Duke Johnson, per source.
â Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) August 8, 2019
Fanfare, itâs wild, just crazy considering the contract he signed, the risk he took on, and his disregard for the proper procedures. Idiot.
Have to wonder what the flexibility will be when heâs finally able to rehab, and if he will regain his speed? Or possibly suffer subsequent injury to plantar fascia, etc. that would be related?
I heard something on the radio this morning from a doctor that says we should slow down on blaming this on A Brown being an idiot. He said not wearing the proper footwear wouldn't cause this. His theory is that it was caused by the extra moisture from his "trench foot" condition. Sort of a perfect storm of conditions that led to the outcome.
So trench foot is making a comeback too?
But he plays on the perimeter, not in the trenches.
No, he doesn't play in the orchestra pit either. None of this makes sense.
So A.Brown had no responsibility for the trench foot? Does he have his own foot guy to where he never has to concern himself with his feet?
Well he drives around in a Brinks truck so probably.
Fandame posted:Well, it said Brown did the cryo in France so that explains it! This past summer in Europe we noticed that slides in swimming pools had the red light-green light, but no guards at the top or bottom; there were no signs near waterfalls warning of slipperiness on wet rocks; no "climb at own risk" warnings on rocky beaches; and worst of all, no health warnings when in hot tubs. Sheesh, you'd almost think that people had to think for themselves and use common sense. Brown obviously had to follow directions and use common sense... and he failed!
It's amazing to see how free people can be when they're not bothered with those pesky liability lawyers.
I'm a HUGE fan of the motorcycle racing on the Isle of Mann. One lap is roughly 37 miles, and goes from countryside to rolling mountains, and through many quaint little towns.
There are no fences separating crowd from racers, no guard rails or any other "safety" devices/systems, and everybody accepts what can happen and realizes it's a personal choice that they solely are responsible for.
We signed S Ibraheim Campbell! Great add.
In 3 games last year he had 20 tackles, 16 solo, 1FF and 2 PDs.
They liked him last year, so I'm wondering why they cut him or was he a FA?
Torn ACL last season ....they just re-signed him and put him on PUP ....so he wont be available for a while.
Well, that explains that. He must be making good progress, otherwise they wouldn't have signed him. Future insurance policy, re: Jones.
HOLY FU**
Train. Wreck.
THREAD: 1) Even before suffering bizarre injuries to his feet, Antonio Brown alarmed Raiders coaches and teammates by railing against the NFLâs enhanced enforcement of helmet regulations, a policy change which will likely force the star receiver to switch to a new model...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
2) Brownâs vocal resistance to the mandate, both during OTAs and shortly after his arrival in Napa, Calif. for training camp, has contributed to a disconnect with the team that acquired the seven-time Pro Bowl selection via a trade with the Pittsburgh Steelers last March...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
3) According to four sources familiar with Brownâs current absence from camp, which dates back to late last week, Raiders coaches and players are concerned that the receiverâs unhappiness regarding the helmet issue may be playing a role in his decision to stay away from Napa...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
4) Brown initially left to seek an additional medical opinion on his frostbitten feet. Before leaving, Brown pushed back for a third time against the leagueâs prohibition of the helmet model he has worn for his entire nine-year career...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
5) His continued frustration surrounding the situation has created a buzz among teammates and coaches, one of whom referred to the saga as âhonestly the most insane thing I have ever heard. I donât know why itâs so important to him. It doesnât make any sense.â ...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
6) The pushback began in May, when the receiver was informed by the Raiders that the NFL had officially eliminated the one-year grace period for certain helmet models, including the one worn by Brown, which had fallen short in laboratory testing for head-impact severity...
â Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 9, 2019
when you gots nothing upstairs there's nothing to protect?
Silver has like 18 threads on this. Essentially, the wheels are flying off the Raiders acquiring Brown and he's having a melt down because he can't wear the helmet he wants. A decision the NFL made that the Raiders have NO control over. A key reason he's not reporting to camp.
Jeebus Christ.
I really gotta DVR Hard Knocks. Might be the best ever season...
Gruden jettisoned Amari Cooper and Khalil Mack for bad picks and a WR who's throwback helmet led him to thinking his bare feet in a frozen ice chamber were above the physical laws of consequences.
Vegas might back out of everything.
You mean Not Even Close to Matt Millen GM and Loudmouth Shittalker coach, who won a Superbowl with Tony Dungy's team, are failing?
Let's get one thing clear. The Super Bowl MVP when Gruden won a SB was Bill Callahan. Runner up was Barret Robbins for his Saturday PM bender in Tijuanna. Dungy's team was 3rd. Same way Rex Grossman was the MVP when Payton Manning won his 1st SB. **** Rex Grossman was horrible in that game.
I heard that Brown actually went out and bought his own helmet that he likes and painted it Raiders silver to wear to practice. Surprisingly, he didn't get away with it. If true, this is just some bizarre shit going on. He also whined about Rodgers and Brady get to keep wearing older helmets then the training staff showed him video of Rodgers wearing a newer style helmet in practice.
Hungry5 posted:
I have reported you for posting that.
Trophies posted:Jesus H. Tough crowd!
Tough crowd? You typed, with a straight face, er, fingers, Washington giving up a pro bowl left tackle for a sack of rancid dog shit who will most likely be cut soon.
Herschel posted:Trophies posted:Jesus H. Tough crowd!
Tough crowd? You typed, with a straight face, er, fingers, Washington giving up a pro bowl left tackle for a sack of rancid dog shit who will most likely be cut soon.
Ok.
Bucs release Evan (Dietrich) Smith.
Where is Suh? That team should sign him.
michiganjoe posted:Bucs release Evan (Dietrich) Smith.
Lol. That's my favorite inside joke here.
I like the CB Derrick Jones signing after release by NYJ. 6-2 188. 4.46 40 time, 41" vertical, 11-8 broad jump - last two would have put him top 3 at the combine for CBs! Aggressive sprinter in kick coverage. Former WR turned CB in Senior year at Ole Miss. Had 2 INT, one returned for a TD, and 3 PDs in his one year at CB. Wiry. Not a lot of mass. Strengths in press man coverage but needs added strength.
He was slowed this year in TC by a knee injury early summer which may account for his being cut loose. Not sure extent of that. Sounds like a developmental project who really needs to add muscle and core strength, but could contribute on STs and maybe stay on PS. Super raw without a ton of coaching to unteach. Might be a nice project.
Kind of funny. Derrick Jones played ONE game for the Jets, week 17 last season v. NE. He wound up with PFF's 2nd highest defensive grade among Jets defenders at 79.1, and a 89.9 coverage grade, which would have made him 5th amongst all NFL CBs that week.
Jets been working hard to eviscerate themselves of all players taken by Mike Maccagnan. They have 3 players left from the 2018 draft out of 9 picks. Definitely worth the flyer.
Trophies:
Kind of funny. Derrick Jones played ONE game for the Jets, week 17 last season v. NE. He wound up with PFF's 2nd highest defensive grade among Jets defenders at 79.1, and a 89.9 coverage grade, which would have made him 5th amongst all NFL CBs that week.
Excellent data mining, Trophies. Thanks!
I did my best, always do. There wasn't sh!t on him, but, that's where my personnel geek self took over. And, I do this just because I really dig it, want to know who we've got.
Speaking of FAs, a fluff piece on Yosh Nijman by the Rock:
https://www.packers.com/video/...rt-worth-rooting-for
I do think Yosh is going to make it. Just being able to sign him, undrafted, was a strange and serendipitous kind of free fall of riches. I mean, I would have been happy if they added OT in R1. Felt we needed to cover bases there. Yosh could easily develop into a starting OT on this team, and I'm glad the Packers were the one's to sign him. Many NFL scouts had him winning the NFL combine for OL.
I'm serious. He really did crush the top rushers in this draft playing RT for VT as a senior... Clelin Ferrell, Josh Allen, Christian Wilkins, Brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence. He did give up one sack to Oshane Ximines in 2018, but not a single sack to any of those others he faced.
According to PFF, Nijman had a 75.7 pass-blocking grade in 2018, allowed just 12 total pressures (10 hurries, one hit, one sack) across his 334 pass-blocking snaps with Virginia Tech.
Here is some super geek stuff if anybody further interested on Yosh... and before you read any of it, consider Yosh Nijman was a FRESHMAN when this was written, starting LT (had over 1800 snaps at LT first 3 yrs there)... 2015:
https://www.thekeyplay.com/vir...-performance-against
I don't know. Just thinking our backup OT depth may not be as bad as we might have thought, especially if this kid starts developing.
Love Yosh
too
Packers sign FB Tommy Bohanon...any word on Muscle Man's injury?
Nothing that Iâve seen but hopefully it isnât too severe and they are just covering their bases. Vitale is an important player in LaFleurâs system. Any true blocking FB is, but esp with ability to catch out of backfield, and Vitale is one of the best.
From someone called Coldworld on Cheesehead tv:
Dak Prescott turns down 30 million a year. Agents indicate they are looking for 34 or 35 million a year.
That is nuts.
Chongo posted:Packers sign FB Tommy Bohanon...any word on Muscle Man's injury?
Looked up some stuff. Been a recurring problem dating back to Aug 2018 with CLE. Was waived off IR in Oct. that year and Packers picked him up. I'm hoping That its more precautionary, but, signing another FB tells me no.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Dak Prescott turns down 30 million a year. Agents indicate they are looking for 34 or 35 million a year.
That is nuts.
BREAKING NEWS
The NFL is drug testing Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott for thinking he is worth 40 million a year.
I like the Larry Mc video breakdowns. But for cripes sake, can someone please pixilate his left hand on the videos. I wanna barf!
RoyalWulff posted:From someone called Coldworld on Cheesehead tv:
The 28-year-old NFL veteran is a fullback with a six-pack. A fullback who's clocked a laser-timed 4.6 40-Yard Dash at nearly 250 pounds. A fullback who holds the NFL Combine record for Bench Press reps at his position. A fullback who can block clean nearly 450 pounds.â Stack.com
Primarily a blocker in college and in the pros. He played a lot of special teams as well. Even as the starting fullback, not used much offensively on the ground or in the air.
TEN signed a FB as a lead blocker last season when LaFleur was OC there. Derrick Henry went from off top of my head about 3.3 yds/carry before they signed him week 8, using TEs as H backs to block, to over 8 yds/carry after they signed this guy, can't recall his name, to finish 2018 season if I remember right.
Think LaFleur had bigger plans for FB Danny Vitale as part of the offense as both a runner and out of backfield as receiver, where he had a solid number of receiving yds at Northwestern. Avg around 350/year, close to 11 yds/per reception.
Good, old school FB.
Coldy knows his stuff....
MichiganPacker2 posted:Dak Prescott turns down 30 million a year. Agents indicate they are looking for 34 or 35 million a year.
That is nuts.
When I first saw headlines on this I thought I was reading the Onion. What's going to be crazy is that Jerruh will probably pay him that amount of money. That's a lot of money for a QB who in my opinion is at best middle of the road.
Gute put in a bid on BAL's backup kicker that MIN ultimately won. Not a vote of confidence for Crosby.
Crosby ain't gettin' no younger. glad Gute's always looking to keep the wheels greased.
The Heckler posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:Dak Prescott turns down 30 million a year. Agents indicate they are looking for 34 or 35 million a year.
That is nuts.When I first saw headlines on this I thought I was reading the Onion. What's going to be crazy is that Jerruh will probably pay him that amount of money. That's a lot of money for a QB who in my opinion is at best middle of the road.
Just above Cousins, in my book.
Tdog posted:Crosby ain't gettin' no younger. glad Gute's always looking to keep the wheels greased.
Sure. But the end game in that transaction would be releasing Crosby, not keeping another K on the 53 while Crosby fades into the sunset for a couple years. They also would have been giving up a draft pick = Vivek would almost have to be your starter.
Can they still do conditional draft picks? Like a 7th round pick if he makes the team? If so it wouldn't matter if Crosby beat him out. Hell, even if it was a guaranteed 7th round pick they could still keep Crosby if he out kicked him.
Just wondering if they keep Ficken and put Crosby on IR for possible return later? It wouldn't be a bad play. Keep Crosby away from other teams, while securing a K who can come in later and knows his way around Lambeau if needed.
Easy come, easy go...
Raiders just released punter Johnny Townsend, who was drafted in the 5th round in 2018 - one spot after the Packers selected JK Scott.
â Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) August 13, 2019
2020 Draft...
Bears pundits suggest they are keeping an eye on Crosby in case he's cut. He would be an upgrade for the Bears regardless (irregardless??) of who the Bears have on the roster.
God I hope Jerruh pays him $35m per year. Then pays Cooper $20m per year. Then gives Zeke $20m per year. Then spread the other $100m of the cap over the other 50 players.
Good article on "Buzzy" Bolton:
His career started out with a bang, but good grief, he cannot stay healthy anymore.
Per the report, he's had a calf strain since March! that's he is still dealing with and now on the same leg has the dreaded high ankle sprain. Fantasy owners beware. Looks like this thing is going to linger awhile..
From last night, #Colts GM Chris Ballard detailed the trials and tribulations of QB Andrew Luckâs high-ankle injury, offering no assurance that heâll be ready for Week 1. Full story: https://t.co/HafXe40E7r
â Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 14, 2019
michiganjoe posted:Bucs release Evan (Dietrich) Smith.
Who is going to hold Henry?
Is Trophies available?
Only if he can use a rope around his neck.
Dude.
Ooops, I forgot the sarcasm icon again.
On purpose or intentionally? 
The 28-year-old NFL veteran is a fullback with a six-pack. A fullback who's clocked a laser-timed 4.6 40-Yard Dash at nearly 250 pounds. A fullback who holds the NFL Combine record for Bench Press reps at his position. A fullback who can block clean nearly 450 pounds.â Stack.com
Primarily a blocker in college and in the pros. He played a lot of special teams as well. Even as the starting fullback, not used much offensively on the ground or in the air.