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Henry posted:

A lot of strawmen in that argument.  Not even sure how Rothliesburger being a pile of shit works into Brown not being a cancer in Green Bay.

I'd prefer the new coach to shake things up.

Fair point on the Big Ben-Brown dynamic.

The main point is that I think the reward greatly outweighs the risk, and the worst case scenario is that he does become a cancer and you cut him. I wouldn't sign him as a free agent for a 90 million in guaranteed money (a Khalil Mack type contract) because then you are stuck and can't cut him. But to get a Hall of Fame receiver near his prime for a third round pick and a 12 million dollar cap hit if it doesn't work out is worth it.

Ironic that the penultimate "players coach" Mike Tomlin is having trouble getting two of the best players in the league to play for his team.  Not saying its his fault, but Leveon Bell and Antonio Brown are arguably two of the best at their respective positions and they want out....must be pissing off Steeler fans to the highest degree.  

Steelers are going to get hurt on the cap hit if they unload AB, whether its before March 17th or after. 

I don't think the Packers win the championship without Andre Rison.  Then again, leaving practice and not showing up for the next one is serious stuff.

I wonder how Brown would react if the Packers talked things over with him and said, "We'd love to have you, but if you pull that crap here, we'll ship you out faster than a New York second."

One other thing.  I am too lazy to do the cap stuff.  That said, I still remain more concerned with o-line.

Henry posted:

My issue is taking away resources from building a defense and oline.  Brown isn't going to be worth the contract if Rodgers is getting murdered behind guys like McCray.

Agreed. You at least need competent OL. No more Spriggs and McCray.

The reason to look at Brown is that you get him without having go pay out a massive guaranteed signing bonus. 20-25 million a year for Brown takes too many resources away. 12 million is a lot more doable.

DH13 posted:

Twitter isn't just for social media.  You can follow pretty much any news source in existence.  It's how I keep up on trade (my job) news and other interests.  And there are a handful of really smart and or funny people I follow.  I never write anything.

If you're a passing game nerd, look up 'receiver school' on twitter.  Fascinating breakdown of route running.  I think they also have a 'quarterback school'.

I originally liked Twitter as a good, specific news feed but it over the top idiocy would always bleed into it.  Plus, I'm me so that's never a good combo.  Social media is pure pavlovian conditioning IMO.  Add some features to keep the morons off the feed and I'm good.  Plus, Neera Tanden is an anti-democratic POS.  If you didn't know that, she's POS and now you know. 

Point me out to some good foosball and gif feeds and maybe I'd reconsider.

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MichiganPacker posted:
Henry posted:

My issue is taking away resources from building a defense and oline.  Brown isn't going to be worth the contract if Rodgers is getting murdered behind guys like McCray.

Agreed. You at least need competent OL. No more Spriggs and McCray.

The reason to look at Brown is that you get him without having go pay out a massive guaranteed signing bonus. 20-25 million a year for Brown takes too many resources away. 12 million is a lot more doable.

Yeah, a reasonable consideration.  Unfortunately, this

That seals it as a No for me. New contract? Forget it.

Henry posted:
MichiganPacker posted:
Henry posted:

My issue is taking away resources from building a defense and oline.  Brown isn't going to be worth the contract if Rodgers is getting murdered behind guys like McCray.

Agreed. You at least need competent OL. No more Spriggs and McCray.

The reason to look at Brown is that you get him without having go pay out a massive guaranteed signing bonus. 20-25 million a year for Brown takes too many resources away. 12 million is a lot more doable.

Yeah, a reasonable consideration.  Unfortunately, this

Henry posted:
MichiganPacker posted:
Henry posted:

My issue is taking away resources from building a defense and oline.  Brown isn't going to be worth the contract if Rodgers is getting murdered behind guys like McCray.

Agreed. You at least need competent OL. No more Spriggs and McCray.

The reason to look at Brown is that you get him without having go pay out a massive guaranteed signing bonus. 20-25 million a year for Brown takes too many resources away. 12 million is a lot more doable.

Yeah, a reasonable consideration.  Unfortunately, this

 

DH13 posted:

Twitter isn't just for social media.  You can follow pretty much any news source in existence.  It's how I keep up on trade (my job) news and other interests.  And there are a handful of really smart and or funny people I follow.  I never write anything.

If you're a passing game nerd, look up 'receiver school' on twitter.  Fascinating breakdown of route running.  I think they also have a 'quarterback school'.

I kind of do the same with twitter.  I never tweet anything out but I do follow things I am interested in on it and for me in my line of work there are some useful things I follow that help me.  

But, then there is the evil side of me that gets a huge kick out of the true idiots who tweet.  The buffoonery on twitter makes me shake my head and laugh at the same time. I swear we are not far off from being the society that was shown in the movie Idiocracy.  

Twitter is great because you can follow random shit like former Bengals WR Chad Johnson telling Devante Adams today he could cover Adams 1 on 1 because heโ€™s studied DBs and then Adams clowning Chad that young men in the league canโ€™t cover him but his tired old ass thinks he can stay with him because he has vet smarts. 

My goodness. Adams against Chad Johnson is nothing Chad Johnson ever wants to ever actually happen.