Just because Iām a glass half full type of guy, we are setting ourselves up nicely to draft the Clemson QB #1 overall in two years.
michiganjoe posted:Really glad Gute is taking a measured approach. My guess is when looking back only about 20% of these first-day high-money moves will look good.
Same here. Spending like a drunken sailor in free agency right off the start has not always been the way to win (Look at Daniel Snyderbrenners track record). Gute is taking the smart approach by not getting sucked in to cap crippling contracts. I think we need to sit back and watch him work and he will sign players that he thinks fits the system for cap friendly deals.
the fa talent this year though does not reflect the insane $ they are getting. the top notch talent get tagged. so if you take them off the tag, then you pay big$ but you have a better chance of getting a game changer. only time this happened recently, like in a while, is mack last year and they had to pay, but the guy is a game wrecker. brown and bell, those guys ... are headcases, talented but will flame out or take the team down with them. the other guys were all average to above (a little) - but Barr is not worth that $, collins not worth that $, mosely not worth that $...Foles maybe but only because of his position and he has hardware. i guess it s draft and low-mid level fa guys for gb...seems like we are used as pawns for these guys to improve their own contracts with other teams.
Not official but it sounds like the Packers may be going after Za'Darius Smith (OLB, Ravens)
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And he's only 26....
The #Packers arenāt done: They are also signing #Bears S Adrian Amos, sources say. Two big deals, two huge additions on D. A former rival comes to Green Bay.
ā Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 12, 2019
As I hinted yesterday, the Packers are signing Amos.
ā Packer Report (@PackerReport) March 12, 2019
Like it. Cut Perry now.
That is excellent. Amos sure wan't on the radar.
Mr. Glass Half Full, your comments?
Funny how moods change.
YATittle posted:Like it. Cut Perry now.
I agree and would be very happy to see it. Please correct me if I am wrong but if they cut him don't they take on something like 10 to 12 Milion in dead cap money?
Chongo posted:
Dwight Schrute at his finest.
In their last three years, their major March signings can be broken down into seven bad signings and six good ones. While that number seems tenable, most of the bad deals were far more expensive than the good ones. For example, they paid out $47.725 million in guaranteed money in the deals that were deemed bad and just $8.625 million on the good ones.
While Ball remains the Packersā contract negotiator, itās clear that Gutekunst and his staff have wrestled away control of the decisions
If Perry would restructure I'd have no issues keeping him around. That's a good rotation.
I always knew Gute wouldnāt let me down
Ubetcha posted:Per Adam Schefter, Jets will be signing Anthony Barr.
Let's see him cheap shot Brady, this season.
michiganjoe posted:As I hinted yesterday, the Packers are signing Amos.
ā Packer Report (@PackerReport) March 12, 2019
I always love this kind of stuff: take from the Bears, add to the Pack.
Henry posted:If Perry would restructure I'd have no issues keeping him around.
Preferably with a contract heavy with incentives.
Absolutely. Seems the carrot keeps him healthy.
Yay! Pack signs z'daruius Smith!!
It needs it's own thread .
And Amos, a reliable cover safety. I wonder if Josh Jones can actually progress and be a thumper safety.
Pakrz posted:I always knew Gute wouldnāt let me down
Are these 22 moves?
Boris posted:Yay! Pack signs z'daruius Smith!!
It needs it's own thread .
Great signing in my opinion. The guy is an OLB who is 6 foot 4 and 270 lbs. and can flat out run. He is widely considered to be the Ravens best defender last year with 8.5 sacks and something crazy like 60 QB hits and pressures.
I like the two additions and we can now more easily go BPA in the first round rather than a position of need.
Packers double-dip at outside linebacker. Preston Smith has been signed from Washington, according to a source.
The Packers also are signing Preston Smith, according to a league source. Huge day for the Packers defense.
i think they should keep perry (oof). this does allow the draft to have the lap fallers get snatched up, no matter where they are. it really opens up someone on the OL / TE to be the picks, likely even a S / Pass rusher...or even ilb, all kinds of options now, i also think they will re-sign cm3 - so that's becoming a nice rotation, i think if perry and cm3 are not 3 down guys -they stay on the field for the full season.
Signing Preston Smith as well?! Gutey!!!
Packy posted:I like the two additions and we can now more easily go BPA in the first round rather than a position of need.
Yup...and I am hoping both BPA's are OL. Then wheel and deal the rest.
And Preston Smith? Gute is shoving those rims right up my ass!!!!
Wooooooooooo!
Pakrz posted:And Preston Smith? Gute is shoving those rims right up my ass!!!!
Wooooooooooo!
That's gonna leave a mark!
PFT says GB is one of 6 teams in the running for Laveon Bell.
Any other Smiths available?
Pakrz posted:PFT says GB is one of 6 teams in the running for Laveon Bell.
I wouldn't have given this any attention previously but with today's dealings it really changes the complexion of where the Packers are going. Showing they want to win now brings all kinds of possibilities. The draft now looking to have lots of options.
Canāt imagine Nick Perry is a Packer in 2019. Or for that matter Matthews.
Gutenheimer aināt ****ing around.
Really huge signings today.
I'm told free agent LB Preston Smith is going to Green Bay on a 4-year deal worth $52M. $16M fully guaranteed at signing. Smith choices came down to the #Colts and the #Packers, per source.
ā ig: josinaanderson (@JosinaAnderson) March 12, 2019
Iām ok signing Clay and putting his Goldie Locks ass at MLB. He can work there
Itās a splendid day Boris!
Dang its nice to have a GM that isn't messing around and getting it done! Go get em Gute!
Bell and Thomas still out there. Pretty interesting development.
Pakrz posted:And Preston Smith? Gute is shoving those rims right up my ass!!!!
Wooooooooooo!
So he gave you a rim job?
Packers are releasing Nick Perry after agreeing to terms Preston Smith and ZaDarius Smith. Was set to make $11M this season. Will b e a market for him for sure. Young enough and is healthy after battling injuries in 2018
ā Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 12, 2019
And there it is...
I think they resign CMIII with Perry cut.
billy tunrer OL goes to green bay
Is there a place for Dee Ford with the signings today?
The
#Packers are add on offense, too. Theyāre signing versatile OL Billy Turner, source said.Turner is a swing player who played both tackles positions and left guard. The
#Broncos showed interest in re-signing him, but the price was too high. He fits the wide zone type of guard the Packers are looking for and could easily fill the RG position.
michiganjoe posted:Packers are releasing Nick Perry after agreeing to terms Preston Smith and ZaDarius Smith. Was set to make $11M this season. Will b e a market for him for sure. Young enough and is healthy after battling injuries in 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013 and 2012
ā Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 12, 2019And there it is...
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Figured Perry would be gone, and it's a good move for the Pack and for Perry. He is better fit in a 4-3. Good luck to you, Nick. Hope you can get healthy.
No thanks on CM3. He gives great effort in run D, but his legs are shot. Would still like to see one more EDGE signing, actually, once the FA frenzy dies. Maybe a one-year prove it deal or low-pick trade for another player on a roster. Reggie Gilbert is at best a 5th EDGE, Fackrell should be no higher than 3rd/4th EDGE.
A splendid day indeed!
Packers are giving former Bearsā safety Adrian Amos a 4-year, $37 million deal that includes $14 million in year one and $21 million in first two years of deal, per source.
ā Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2019
Pakrz posted:PFT says GB is one of 6 teams in the running for Laveon Bell.
We have good running backs. We need big OL men to get them past that first wall.
sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r posted:Signing Preston Smith as well?! Gutey!!!
TT is long gone boys & girls....spending like drunken sailors at 1265. š
4 yr 28 mil for turner
4ur 37 mil for Amos
Turner gets 4 years at 29 million. he aint coming in to back up.
Does Perry get to take his arm casts/clubs with him?
Packers adding OL Billy Turner
....and Perry....GTFOH!!!
We'll have to see how the numbers shake out for these contracts. The Turner APY is pricey though. Unfortunately, that is cost of drafting poorly and having to turn to FA.
Oh, so this is what the off-season is supposed to feel like.
Did we just swipe Minnehahaās off season world championship?
Pakrz posted:Did we just swipe Minnehahaās off season world championship?
Maybe, unless they're laying in the weeds. I see DT Sheldon Richardson is off to Cleveland.
Pakrz posted:Does Perry get to take his arm casts/clubs with him?
I am sure he will get new hand clubs in his new team colors.
You get a contract!
You get a contract!
Looks like L Bell and the Bears are cozying up, don't like the sound of that.
The #Packers are signing former #Ravens pass-rusher ZaāDarius Smith to a 4-year deal worth $66M, source said. He gets $34.5M in the first two years. š°š°
ā Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 12, 2019
Big money.
YOOOOOOGE money. Tremendous money.
At least we've seen him on an actual NFL gridiron. Plus he's what...26? That's a win & if the Ravens still had Ozzie - I'll bet they never let him get away.
Packdog posted:Was hoping for a OLB signing like Preston Smith, but sounds like he has several teams calling....would be happy with Z'Darius Smith as a fall back. Then get a guy like Tre Boston if the other safeties are demanding too much coin. Underrated.
Hehe....Happy Days !!
Gutelicious on the move !!
Pikes Peak posted:Looks like L Bell and the Bears are cozying up, don't like the sound of that.
What we know: #Bears freed up a ton of money today.
ā Bryan Perez (@BryanPerezNFL) March 12, 2019
What we think we know: Le'Veon Bell has his team, just hasn't announced it yet.
What we think we think we know: Odell Beckham is on the trade block.#Bears' silence = one of these two will be in Chicago.
I give no shits about the money or this perceived ācap hellā some speak of. Rosters and caps are fluid. Sign players and fāing win games.
Itās time for a Gooty-call.
Plot twist! LB Anthony Barr has decided to agree to terms to remain with the #Vikings, sources say. He will not be a member of the #Jets after all.
ā Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 12, 2019
Unless, Bellicheat paid Barr to stay with the vikings. Maybe he didn't want Barr anywhere near Brady.
With Anthony Barr spurning the #Jets, they have some extra money. Iām told theyāve taken some of that money and made a last and final big offer to LeāVeon Bell. Itās decision time for the ex-#Steelers RB.
ā Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 12, 2019
Queens apparently put some more money on the table.
Pakrz posted:I give no shits about the money or this perceived ācap hellā some speak of. Rosters and caps are fluid. Sign players and fāing win games.
Itās time for a Gooty-call.
Rodgers ain't getting any younger.
Go for it now....if it fails.....then tank, get #1 overall pick for Jesus (Clemson QB)
Amos is really underrated. Aggressive, Versatile, Young, Good Injury history.....and .....weakens the fugging Bears !!!
It's Noon on Tuesday and Packers.com has nothing up on their webpage about GB's newest signings. Leave it to X4 to be the most current, up to date site providing Packer info!
As A. Barr has shown, nothing's final until signatures are on the contract.
i dont think they can till tomorrow? maybe i am wrong.
#Packers signing Za'Darius Smith is a perfect piece for a Mike Pettine defense...
ā Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 12, 2019
Someone that can stand up rush on the edge for you but also kick inside to 3tech and even some nose in exotic subpackages. Power rusher with good/violent hand usage! Love this signing for GB.. pic.twitter.com/YsBQI6sOj3
John Pluym ESPN
LB Preston Smith, who intends to sign with the Packers when free agency officially opens at 4 p.m. ET Wednesday, should be significant upgrade rushing the passer. Smith has 103 QB pressures in the past two seasons, according to NFL Next Gen Stats, ninth in the NFL and ahead of players such as Cameron Jordan (99), Calais Campbell (93) and Jadeveon Clowney (88).
Omfg bell to the eagles?????!!!!!????
Hahhahahahhah.
Just effing with ya....
https://www.philly.com/philly/...ds_to_Wednesday.html
Total clickbait.....Mike Bell
50k Club posted:We'll have to see how the numbers shake out for these contracts. The Turner APY is pricey though. Unfortunately, that is cost of drafting poorly and having to turn to FA.
I don't pay attention to contract numbers reported today. How the deals are structured, what the actual cap hits are, guaranteed/bonus $$, etc... all of that is the real meat. We won't know all that for a few days.
Pakrz posted:Goalline posted:Pakrz posted:GB has some young talent there... Not saying theyāre set, but there are other places on roster where thereās much less talent.
Jaire Alexander. Thatās it.
No. King can play if he is healthy and Jackson is heading into year two. GB has some good young talent there. Now they just have to pan out.
When has King ever been healthy? He's like Justin Harrell with tallant. Those kind of guys are always hurt. Their bodies can't keep up. Jackson is young so I will give him the benefit of doubt, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a bust.
Sign Breeland next !!
Pakrz posted:Why ya gotta have 46ā rims with spinners and glitter?
My people consider that modesty. 
One of my favorite aspects of todayās signings:
ā Andy Herman March 12, 2019
ZaāDarius Smith - 26
Adrian Amos - 25
Billy Turner - 27
Preston Smith - 26
Gute didnāt sign anyone over 27, got players who have all shown career progression, signed durable & versatile players, all at positions of need. ā ā ā ā
The Heckler posted:Boris posted:Yay! Pack signs z'daruius Smith!!
It needs it's own thread .
Great signing in my opinion. The guy is an OLB who is 6 foot 4 and 270 lbs. and can flat out run. He is widely considered to be the Ravens best defender last year with 8.5 sacks and something crazy like 60 QB hits and pressures.
60????
DH13 posted:Any other Smiths available?
Emmitt.
Chongo posted:michiganjoe posted:Packers are releasing Nick Perry after agreeing to terms Preston Smith and ZaDarius Smith. Was set to make $11M this season. Will b e a market for him for sure. Young enough and is healthy after battling injuries in 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013 and 2012
ā Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 12, 2019And there it is...
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Ubetcha posted:Pakrz posted:Did we just swipe Minnehahaās off season world championship?
Maybe, unless they're laying in the weeds. I see DT Sheldon Richardson is off to Cleveland.
Hearing that Barr has decided to return to MInny Ha Ha after all.
Boris posted:Omfg bell to the eagles?????!!!!!????
Really????
Boris posted:Hahhahahahhah.
Just effing with ya....
https://www.philly.com/philly/...ds_to_Wednesday.html
Total clickbait.....Mike Bell
Someone expel him to the Vikings' suck thread.
Classy gesture by Gutey
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Bye Felicia.
You guys would be laughing hysterically if the Vikings gave L. Smith that contract.
There were 2 things that worked against Nick Perry here. 1st, he was a little bit out of position in a 3-4 defense, he probably would have been at his best in a 4-3. 2nd, he was made of glass. Neither was his fault, so I have nothing against the guy. He did have his moments, but never seemed like quite as good as they thought he could be with the exception of one really nice year.
Some of you may not have read earlier....Nick was one of the guys constantly late to meetings & missing team planes, etc. While MM didn't do squat about it.
Yup....time to move on.