This was a MM quote on excusing Perry's lackluster play despite playing in all 8 games to this point in the season. He had 1.5 sacks at this point. Many were wondering if Perry was still injured, then why does he keep starting. And keep sucking..

DH13 posted:

I'm warming up to digger's theory Pettine doesn't need to focus resources on OLB.  If your highest rated prospect at #12 is an OLB then take him.  If not then go DL, OL, ILB, TE whatever.  Our DL will be the engine for pass rush and we need more talent behind them.  Go after Mosely if he's not tagged.

I was responding to someone posting an OLB strategy that disappeared.

GD is a dumdum.  

Dom Capers sucks! 

I’d like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB.  Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...aced-injured-reserve

The Packers structured Perry's most recent contract, which contained an $18.5 million signing bonus, so that they could move on after the 2018 season and actually gain salary-cap space. Perry is due a $4.8 million roster bonus if he's on the team on the third day of the league year in 2019, so if the Packers cut him before that March date they would wipe that and his $5.2 million base salary off their cap.

They would have to count the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus against their cap, but could defer some of that by designating him as a June 1 cut. If they cut him without the June 1 designation, they would save $3.6 million off their 2019 cap. If they used that designation, they would save $11.1 million.

Perry has $11.1m of dead money if cut this year, which can be spread over 2019 ($3.7M) and 2020 ($7.4m).  If he's back, Packers owe him $10.6m in salary and bonuses, making him a $14.3m cap hit in 2019.  It sucks but I'd rather take the cap hit rather than pay him another dime this year.  I was all for bringing him back after his contract year but I was wrong.  

You draft OLB at 12.  Polite, Sweat or Ferrell will be there... maybe a few others that creep up on boards.  That position has the ability to single handedly change the landscape of a defense.  It's why the best pass rushers in the NFL never see FA.  The only way to get them is in the draft.  Take a ****ing OLB at 12!!

Henry posted:

GD is a dumdum.  

Dom Capers sucks! 

I’d like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB.  Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available. 

Shows how much you know, there’s a bidding war for Dom Capers services right now. He’s already turned down the DC role with the Bengals and two other teams want him. Suck on that, bonerz. 

Pakrz posted:

You draft OLB at 12.  Polite, Sweat or Ferrell will be there... maybe a few others that creep up on boards.  That position has the ability to single handedly change the landscape of a defense.  It's why the best pass rushers in the NFL never see FA.  The only way to get them is in the draft.  Take a ****ing OLB at 12!!

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Grave Digger posted:
Henry posted:

GD is a dumdum.  

Dom Capers sucks! 

I’d like to see FA bring in bulk mid tier guys including OLB.  Get your superstars in the draft especially with all the defensive talent available. 

Shows how much you know, there’s a bidding war for Dom Capers services right now. He’s already turned down the DC role with the Bengals and two other teams want him. Suck on that, bonerz. 

Fantasy

I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didn’t matter nearly as much as winning. 

See Tyrick Hill, etc. 

As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isn’t my thing. 

packerboi posted:

I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didn’t matter nearly as much as winning. 

See Tyrick Hill, etc. 

As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isn’t my thing. 

You mean like Letroy Guion?

https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...charges-in-the-past/

 

MichiganPacker posted:
packerboi posted:

I mean, I guess since Dorsey drafted him, you can see the connection but this was one of the few concerns with Dorsey coming back as a GM to the Packers. That character and who you were off the field didn’t matter nearly as much as winning. 

See Tyrick Hill, etc. 

As much as I love the Packers, cheering for scrot bags who beat women, including pregnant ones isn’t my thing. 

You mean like Letroy Guion?

https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...charges-in-the-past/

 

I never got the feeling that Ahman Green had a nice sensitive soft touch with women either.   The good news was... there never was any film footage of him beating anybody.  I believe he had a couple of accusations against him which definitely made me always wonder if behind the scenes he could be a raging tyrant towards whomever he was with. 

They are reportedly giving up a mid round pick to get Flacco. Horseface may go OL or somewhere else, but would you really be putting your chips into the middle of the table that Flacco is your guy?

He hasn't looked like a starting QB in years. And years. 

This likely means Case Keenum is out the door. Now he'd be in an intriguing back up to #12. 

skully posted:

Good move for Elway ?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...offseason-qb-market/

Nick Foles, and Derrick Carr will be next.

I think this is a decent move for Elway.  It gives him a veteran QB who has won before and who IMHO is vastly under rated.  Not a top 5 QB but a pretty good one if he has the players around him.  

Now I think Foles kind of sets the market.  If he goes to say Jacksonville and the Giants take Haskins that kind of leaves Miami, Oakland (if they get rid of Carr) and probably the Redskins as the most QB needy teams.  I would think that one of those teams will go hard after Foles.  

Which brings me to a thought.  So if the Redskins want their QB in the first round they may want to get in front of the Dolphins who pick at #13 right after the Packers.  Perhaps Gute could pick up some extra picks and move down to the Skins spot.  

 

Flacco's rankings at QB out of 36 QB's with at least 1000 attempts, per ESPN since winning the SB. He was the 4th highest paid QB in football:

Cash value$124M4th
TD-Int ratio1.4:134th <<
1st down pct.31%35th <<
Yards per att.6.535th <<



That's some pretty consistently shit numbers over the last few years. 

packerboi posted:

This likely means Case Keenum is out the door. Now he'd be in an intriguing back up to #12. 

Then what do you do with Boyle? 

It's rare teams keep 3 QB's now even though the Pack did last year. I think they'll still give Kizer a shot too. 

Flacco is barely an upgrade over Keenum. Upgrade in arm strength only. I actually think Keenum is a better QB without the physical tools. 

Elway is reaching again for Manning-like magic. Guy is too impatient to find and develop a franchise QB, so he keeps hoping to find a one-year spark of magic in a retread. 

If Keenum lands in GB, I'd rather keep Boyle than Kizer. Kizer is another Hundley clone that MM seemed to fall in love with, like Wallace, V. Young. MM wanted a QB who could run, but he kept choosing guys who could only run and not pass.

GBFanForLife posted:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...aced-injured-reserve

The Packers structured Perry's most recent contract, so that they could move on after the 2018 season and actually gain salary-cap space. 

They would have to count the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus against their cap, but could defer some of that by designating him as a June 1 cut. If they cut him without the June 1 designation, they would save $3.6 million off their 2019 cap. If they used that designation, they would save $11.1 million.

I can't imagine why they would keep him - June 1st designated cut $11.1 million. YES!

I'm thinking big in FA this year - Clowney & Landon Collins or Earl Thomas

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