No thank you. I'd like a defense and offensive line first.
if they are willing to take 21 million hit to get rid of him what does that say?
It says, âCaveat emptor.â
Brainwashed Boris posted:Bill Belichick complimented Jaire before the game vs. the Pats. Singled him out by name during Belichicks presser.
âThis guy is a really good football player, and I think heâs got a great future in the league,â Belichick said. âI think heâll be one of the top corners in the game for quite a while here.â
https://packerswire.usatoday.c...jaire-alexander/amp/
Belichick said the former Louisville star was one of the top players on the Patriotsâ draft board.
âHeâs a great kid. Heâs got great energy,â Belichick said. âHe loves football and has great football skills; fast, athletic, good hands, good ball skills, can tackle, can play inside in the slot, can play outside on the perimeter, good zone vision, break on the ball, good man-to-man coverage, has good quickness, can match up with fast receivers, can match up with quick receivers.â
I'm going to go out on a limb & agree with Belichick here instead of "BrainDed"
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Packy posted:
Our impact players are?
So.....
Show me the impact plays from this season. To me impact player means game changing plays. Long TD run, turn over, Sack on a crucial 3rd down. Show me those plays from Alexander....
You can't, because he didn't make them YET. As I said in my 1st reply, he has the potential and looks to be headed in that direction. But to say he was / is an impact player is being a complete homer in my opinion. 1 Pick, zero forced fumbles and 11 passes defended.
Kyle Fuller had 21 passes defended and 7 INT's. Those are the stats of an impact player. Can we please take off the green and gold goggles or at least learn to differentiate from potential vs actual performance.
Meh. Stats for CBs can be misleading, because QBs frequently avoid throwing at the good ones.
Jaire had an outstanding rookie year. I'm excited to see him build on it. Anyone that watched Green Bay games can see that he profiles as a legit CB1.
However, there are two legitimate questions at the CB position: (1) whether King can stay healthy, and (2) whether Jackson can show significant improvement in his second year sand resemble the playmaker we saw in college.
Brainwashed Boris posted:packerboi posted:Train Wreck with Antonio Brown
Can't see him as a Steeler in 2019. Between this and the drama with Bell, have to wonder if Tomlin's grip on the locker room is gone. That place sounds like a fu$$ing mess.
I honestly thought Tomlin was getting fired when they didn't make the playoffs.
How many coaches have the Steelers had in the last 50 years? The Rooneyâs never overreact
Notre Dame coach sent away a try hard OL kid after he had an epileptic seizure as a freshman. He went on to earn the nickname of âThe Popeâ at Dayton based on his play at OL and LB. He was a âfreakishâ student of football.
Years later. He was the backup plan B in Pittsburgh after Joe Paterno turned down an offer to become the Steelers HC in 1969.
His name was Chuck Knoll. One of the best football coaches the NFL has ever had.
DH13 posted:I'd rather sign Peter Carruthers, Sally Struthers or the Smothers Brothers.
"Mom always you liked you best".
It would be tempting suicide to bring in Brown with MLF as a new rookie HC.
Goalline posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:packerboi posted:Train Wreck with Antonio Brown
Can't see him as a Steeler in 2019. Between this and the drama with Bell, have to wonder if Tomlin's grip on the locker room is gone. That place sounds like a fu$$ing mess.
I honestly thought Tomlin was getting fired when they didn't make the playoffs.
How many coaches have the Steelers had in the last 50 years? The Rooneyâs never overreact
Agree, but it's not just missing the playoffs, I'm not certain Tomlin has control of the locker room anymore.
BrainDed posted:1 pick and 0 FF. He played well for a rook, but far from a impact player. The secondary has been managed like shit and full of shit for so long, we forget what an impact player on D looks like.
Allowed a 73 rating from QBs and 50% completions. He made mistakes, but that's a pretty impactful stat line. His turnover numbers weren't high, but Kyle Fuller was arguably the top CB in the NFL in 2018 and he only had 2 INTs. Fuller allowed 1 reception every 18.4 snaps he played, Alexander allowed 1 reception ever 18 snaps played. JA's completion % allowed was lower than Fuller's as well.
Imagine had Fuller signed with GB and Alexander in the fold?
You wonât get a lot of picks if QBs avoid throwing your way
So QB's avoided throwing at our whole defense?
Spoke with #Steelers S Morgan Burnett, who tells me he wants to be released from his deal before free agency. During his time in Pittsburgh, he felt he played out of position as a dime LB. Burnett, with 2 yrs left on his contract, wants a new start & a chance to play safety again
â Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 19, 2019
michiganjoe posted:Spoke with #Steelers S Morgan Burnett, who tells me he wants to be released from his deal before free agency. During his time in Pittsburgh, he felt he played out of position as a dime LB. Burnett, with 2 yrs left on his contract, wants a new start & a chance to play safety again
â Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 19, 2019
Finally, a former Packers DB missing the glory days under Dom Capers.
Not thanks on Burnett. Iâm done with safeties notorious for not being productive
Burnett was pretty average but at least he was consistently average. Might be an upgrade over what's there presently but the team needs to think long-term rather than going with an aging stopgap.
A good slot receiver would really help Rodgers and our offense. Here are a few free agent possibilities. I would prefer a free agent now and groom a rookie for the future rather than going with a rookie now. Don't think there's anyone else on the team now other than Cobb who can't stay healthy.
https://packerstalk.com/2019/0...28PackersTalk.com%29
My guess is St. Brown ends up in the slot. He was really coming on and had surpassed MVS prior to the concussion last year and the chemistry with AR appeared to be developing quite nicely.
michiganjoe posted:Burnett was pretty average but at least he was consistently average. Might be an upgrade over what's there presently but the team needs to think long-term rather than going with an aging stopgap.
How can a guy who never made a play, was always a step slow, never made the big tackle be an upgrade to anyone. Burnett has zero upside and no production to go with it.
Anyone is an upgrade over that because they might have potential. Burnett has none.
He stinks! Pitts figured it out, just like the Redskins figured out HaHa lost his nerve and won't hurt a flea anymore than an offensive player.
You mean like Brice, who all the geniuses insisted was going to be a good player because he could run fast and hit hard? For all his faults, Burnett is the much better safety.
Neither Brice or Burnett are long term answers at safety. Got to do better than those two. Shouldnât be hard as thatâs a low bar.
If you think it can't be worse, just harken back to pre rookie Ha Ha.
Point being they may need to focus more resources back there than UDFA's and aging vets.
I mean, based on results, I would feel better about Fitz as the backup QB:
We'll start with Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com sizing up the quarterback market for this offseason and making a projection for every starting and backup opening. For the Packers, he envisions Ryan Fitzpatrick (who earned the nickname "FitzMagic" when he became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for 400 yards or more in three straight games last season for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers) providing Aaron Rodgers with a veteran backup.
Regarding the Packers, La Canfora writes:
Sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's time to spend some money on a backup at this stage of Aaron Rodgers' career. I get and agree with the desire to always have a developmental QB or two, but it's time to start winning again, and DeShone Kizer is not any real insurance behind him.
If the money is right, I'm in.
I mean. Sure.
If it's time to start winning again, it won't happen with Fitzpatrick.
We need a solid backup...
Grave Digger posted:BrainDed posted:1 pick and 0 FF. He played well for a rook, but far from a impact player. The secondary has been managed like shit and full of shit for so long, we forget what an impact player on D looks like.
Allowed a 73 rating from QBs and 50% completions. He made mistakes, but that's a pretty impactful stat line. His turnover numbers weren't high, but Kyle Fuller was arguably the top CB in the NFL in 2018 and he only had 2 INTs. Fuller allowed 1 reception every 18.4 snaps he played, Alexander allowed 1 reception ever 18 snaps played. JA's completion % allowed was lower than Fuller's as well.
You don't have high INT numbers if they aren't throwing at you.
Timmy! posted:If it's time to start winning again, it won't happen with Fitzpatrick.
I have no issues with him as an experienced #2. He was on fire for a number of games last year as the starter with Tampa with a depleted, crap offense no less.
At least he's won games. Sadly, can't say the same for Kiser
AtTheMurph posted:michiganjoe posted:Burnett was pretty average but at least he was consistently average. Might be an upgrade over what's there presently but the team needs to think long-term rather than going with an aging stopgap.
How can a guy who never made a play, was always a step slow, never made the big tackle be an upgrade to anyone. Burnett has zero upside and no production to go with it.
Anyone is an upgrade over that because they might have potential. Burnett has none.
He stinks! Pitts figured it out, just like the Redskins figured out HaHa lost his nerve and won't hurt a flea anymore than an offensive player.
Hyperbole thy name is Murph?
Burnett was the AJ Hawk of the secondary. Not flashy, was consistent and kind of shit the bed at the end. If a defensive scheme change can make Micah Hyde a pro-bowler someone as smart as Burnett could play respectable ball. All for a very reasonable price of course and I really don't want him back either but hey, could be worse.
Go get a solid safety in FA.
He's thrown 190 TD's and for over 29,000 yds, good guy too and more than willing to be a backup. John Feinsteins new book features him in a pretty good light. Other than the Fitzpatrick curse what could go wrong.
At the right price get him. Enough of the Hundley, Kizer bs.
Timmy! posted:If it's time to start winning again, it won't happen with Fitzpatrick.
It wonât happen with Kizer or likely any backup QB. Fitz is probably the best option that they can afford and could possibly win games.
If they look for a new backup they will likely look to the Eagles/Bears example of backup QB, get/keep someone who knows the system (Chase Daniel in CHI, Foles in PHI). Only FA QB I see who fits that bill is Sean Mannion from LA. Heâs kind of a meh type QB. LaFleur was Kizerâs coach at ND wasnât he? Thereâs experience there, most likely possibility is they just stick with DK.
Shields doesn't have a contract for 2019. He's another player who would likely come cheap as a back up guy and a good, veteran special teamer. I would think he'd welcome being back in Green N' Gold if the Rams decide to pass on him..
Sam Shields was one of just four Rams players to have previously played in a Super Bowl before the 13-3 loss to the New England Patriots. Spending his first seven years with the Green Bay Packers, where he won a Lombardi Trophy as a rookie, Shields played just one game in 2016 and missed all of the 2017 campaign.
The veteran signed in L.A. last offseason to provide depth. He played a significant role as the Rams dealt with an injury to Aqib Talib during the middle portion of the 2018 slate. When the Rams CB trio of Talib, Marcus Peters and Nickell Robey-Coleman was healthy, Shields was relegated to special team's duty. Shields didn't play a single defensive snap during the playoffs, while taking part in 55 special teams plays, per Next Gen Stats.
Without a contract for 2019, Shields would like to remain in L.A., if the Rams can fit him in their plans.
"For sure, you know, whatever it takes," Shields said. "I know how this business is, so if it's right, it's right -- I'll be back. But business is business."