@Boris posted:...and Tauscher, but yes...very rare
...and Timmerman...extremely rare
The #Ravens have signed veteran CB Tramon Williams.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) November 10, 2020
Wasn't sure where to put this but good article about Billy Turner.
https://www.packers.com/news/b...-being-uncomfortable
"His biggest challenge in a Packers uniform may have come last Thursday at San Francisco, where he started his third straight game at left tackle for Bakhtiari but then flipped over to right tackle at halftime when Rick Wagner left with a knee injury.
Afterward, LaFleur admitted "that's not easy" to pull off in-game, yet the coaches asked him to do it because second-year left guard Elgton Jenkins said he felt better about sliding over one spot than switching sides."
Think it's time for the "turdner" nickname to be permanently retired, if it hasn't been already.
Source: Results of medical evaluations performed today on #Saints 
quarterback Drew Brees revealed that he has multiple rib fractures on both sides of his chest and a collapsed lung on the right side. Injuries suffered over two weeks. It is uncertain how much time he might miss
That's going to be tough for a quadragenarian to come back from quickly.
With Nick Foles and Mitch Trubisky banged up, the Bears are bringing in QB DeShone Kizer for a tryout.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) November 18, 2020
Chicago is currently on its bye.
He will add to the allure...
Just since 2000.
2001 Jim Miller (13) / Shane Matthews (3) [83]
2002 Jim Miller (8) / Chris Chandler (7) / Henry Burris (1) [84]
2003 Kordell Stewart (7) / Chris Chandler (6)/ Rex Grossman (3) [85]
2004 Craig Krenzel (5) / Chad Hutchinson (5)/ Jonathan Quinn (3) / Rex Grossman (3) [86]
2005 Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1) [87]
2006 Rex Grossman (16) [88]
2007 Rex Grossman (7) / Brian Griese (6) / Kyle Orton (3) [89]
2008 Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1) [90]
2009 Jay Cutler (16) [91]
2010 Jay Cutler (15) / Todd Collins (1) [92]
2011 Jay Cutler (10) / Caleb Hanie (4) / Josh McCown (2) [93]
2012 Jay Cutler (15) / Jason Campbell (1) [94]
2013 Jay Cutler (11) / Josh McCown (5) [95]
2014 Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1) [96]
2015 Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1) [97]
2016 Matt Barkley (6) / Jay Cutler (5) / Brian Hoyer (5) [98]
2017 Mitchell Trubisky (12) / Mike Glennon (4) [99]
2018 Mitchell Trubisky (14) / Chase Daniel (2) [100]
2019 Mitchell Trubisky (15) / Chase Daniel (1) [101]
2020 Mitchell Trubisky (3) / Nick Foles (6
@michiganjoe posted:With Nick Foles and Mitch Trubisky banged up, the Bears are bringing in QB DeShone Kizer for a tryout.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) November 18, 2020
Chicago is currently on its bye.
Wow, Kizer gets his revenge game in two weeks?
@packerboi posted:
He may have found out that the weather in Seattle isn't much better than the weather in Green Bay. We don't need a wuss, like Snacks, in G&G.
@michiganjoe posted:With Nick Foles and Mitch Trubisky banged up, the Bears are bringing in QB DeShone Kizer for a tryout.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) November 18, 2020
Chicago is currently on its bye.
Well he can't lose this weekend.
@pkr_north posted:he played, he just looked real rusty. and big, not in a good way.
19 snaps. He should be in shape by March.
@PackerHawk posted:Wow, Kizer gets his revenge game in two weeks?
Kizer has played in 18 games. He was 0-15 as a starter in Cleveland.
He played in 3 games in Green Bay but didn't throw a pass in one of them (a win against the Falcons in which he took one kneel-down snap).
In the other two games, he played when Rodgers got injured. he went 16 of 35 with an interception in a shutout loss to end the 2018 (to the Lions).
The only game Kizer has thrown a pass in that his team won was when Rodgers got hurt against the Bears and Kizer came in at the end of the first half to lead two drives before Rodgers returned in the second half to lead them back. The first Kizer drive ended with him fumbling in the red zone and the second Kizer drive he threw a pick 6 on a screen to K. Mack right before the half.
He was the QB for 10 Drives as a Packer. They were stopped going for it on 4th down twice, they punted 4 times, he threw 2 interceptions, fumbled once, and his most successful drive was when he knelt for one play to run out the clock at the end of a win.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Kizer has played in 18 games. He was 0-15 as a starter in Cleveland.
He played in 3 games in Green Bay but didn't throw a pass in one of them (a win against the Falcons in which he took one kneel-down snap).
In the other two games, he played when Rodgers got injured. he went 16 of 35 with an interception in a shutout loss to end the 2018 (to the Lions).
The only game Kizer has thrown a pass in that his team won was when Rodgers got hurt against the Bears and Kizer came in at the end of the first half to lead two drives before Rodgers returned in the second half to lead them back. The first Kizer drive ended with him fumbling in the red zone and the second Kizer drive he threw a pick 6 on a screen to K. Mack right before the half.
He was the QB for 10 Drives as a Packer. They were stopped going for it on 4th down twice, they punted 4 times, he threw 2 interceptions, fumbled once, and his most successful drive was when he knelt for one play to run out the clock at the end of a win.
Holy shit 
that's astonishingly awful
Yea. But he can really chew that gum like a pro.
Where’s Caleb Haney, Brady Quinn, or Steve DeBerg when you need them?
What's worse:
Trading a former 1st Rounder for this guy?
Or using a 5th Rounder for this guy?
Considering Randall is making about the same impact Kizer is making I think that trade is a wash. Randall, despite his pedigree, wasn’t going anywhere and was an asshole apparently. So wasting the 5th is worse.
@packerboi posted:Holy shit
Oh yes it was. I was at that shutout loss to the Lions in 2018. I have never in my life left a Packer game early but I did that day. I looked at my wife mid way through the 4th quarter of that $hi+ show and said we are leaving. One of the worst Packers games I ever witnessed and I lived through the dark years.
Also gave up a seventh to move up for Hundley. Lack of an adequate backup was a consistent issue with MM after Flynn was gone.
Hundley is still in the league
Randall is on Seattle -- not a YOOOGE impact
Hah, hilarious.....
The #Titans are expected to sign QB DeShone Kizer to their practice squad, per source. He’ll replace Trevor Siemian, who has been poached to another team’s 53-man roster.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) November 21, 2020
So the Saints are going with Hill, Winston and Siemian? And apparently Hill is starting and Winston will get no offensive snaps.
Sean Payton - mad genius or just plain mad?
Sean Peyton -- gigantic ego
Taysom Hill -- ZERO TD passes for his entire career. Z-E-R-O & he makes $10 million!!
Winston should be starting.
And we benefited from it ..... Hill's fumble on the option play directly led to our win vs. them this season!
@PackLandVA posted:What's worse:
Trading a former 1st Rounder for this guy?
Or using a 5th Rounder for this guy?
There may an additional option coming.
The Kizer trade was trying to get something out of a complete nothing. I won't fault Gint for that trade.
I can't remember what thread the Glop quote about 2021 free agency being a bumper crop. The optimistic thought that passes through my mind is he's targeting a 2021 spending spree. Considering the cap is going to be pretty damn low I don't know where the cabbage would come from for that kind of move.
Granted, it sure the hell doesn't explain his draft choices.
Andrew Brandt mentioned off hand on twitter that he believes the cap will be between $180M and $185M. Currently GB has cap allocations for '21 of $197M, so everyone is going to have to figure this shit out. GB is like middle of the road in that amount being over the potential cap. Going to be a weird offseason.
The big jump in the 2021 cap allocation is AR12 (+15M). Kenny Clark's cap allocation jumps big in 2022 (+13.5M). Davante Adams is a FA in 2022. Biggest targets for restructure/cut in 2021:
* Preston Smith (save 8M, leaves 8M in dead cap), Christian Kirksey (save 6M, leaves 2M in dead cap), Rick Wagner (save 4.2 M, leaves 1.8M in dead cap), and Dean Lowry (save 3.3M, leaves 3M in dead cap).
For reference, this does not count Aaron Jones, Corey Linsley, Kevin King, Jamaal Williams, or Tyler Lancaster whom are all free agents.