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PFF writes a series of FA articles that present a very difficult choice for their current teams. Who to keep ?

This one is about the Browns having to choose between All Pro Center Alex Mack and stud Safety TJ Ward

 

Given Ted's proclivity toward acquiring dudes with "J"s in their name, I 'd say TJ would be the first choice in GB.

But if there was some way to get them both from the Factory of Sadness on a train to Titletown...it would go a loooooooong way towards building a Championship squad. They both bring veteran presence to these very cerebral positions on both sides of the ball. 

 

So last night after eleventy beers, I went through the salary cap chart for GB and cleared $31 million in about 13 seconds.

So easy, a caveman could do it 

 

https://www.profootballfocus.c...j-ward-vs-alex-mack/

 

 

Go Packers

 

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It would be incredible if the Packers could get a S like Ward or Jairus Byrd as a FA, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. I have a good feeling about the draft this year, though. Ted's whiffed badly on nearly every defensive pick he's made since Matthews, but I have a feeling he's going to get at least a couple good players in April. He's still a smart, capable GM, and I have a hard time believing that he isn't going to correct the mistakes on defensive picks he's made over the past 3 drafts. The jury is still out on Perry and Jones (Perry has one more season, and Jones has two more to turn it around), but this team badly needs to find a rookie playmaker for the defense. No more "projects" or "serviceable" starters, they need another Clay Matthews or Nick Collins to get back to the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by packerboi:

Quite a few us (me included) were ready to write off Mike Neal after 2 seasons. He turned his health around nicely and with another full off season to prepare as an OLB, could be a decent ying to CMIII's yang.

 

Hoping Perry goes the route of Neal (health wise).

I always give a guy 3 seasons before I write him off. I've been wrong before (I thought that Nick Collins was a player that should probably be replaced after his 2nd and 3rd seasons, and then he blossomed into an All-Pro caliber player '08), but if a guy can't produce by year 3, it's usually a very safe bet that the he is a bust.

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Maybe they would be less sad if they tagged and traded TJ Ward to the Packers ? 

 

Ward may or may not be there in 3 years when they are ready to make their run, but he would fit in GB right now. And Cleveland needs more picks for a QB and others

 

Cleveland is going to lose him in FA anyways; might as well try to get a pick for it

I'd offer to swap spots in the first round with them ( our 21 for their 26, and toss in a 4th just to seal the deal)

 

Of course its not fair compensation for Cleveland, but its better than the nothing they will get for losing him in FA. Given choices, he ain't sticking around for the re-build.

 

On the Packers side, it gets you TJ Ward without having to outbid a stupid team with stupid money. No clue on what it would take pick-wise, but it sure is an attractive proposition in my imaginary world

 

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Holy Schit !

 

Team president Joe Banner is stepping down and GM Michael Lombardi was fired this morning. The owner is up to his ass in allegations of fraud and a Federal probe

 

The Factory of Sadness continues their death spiral....

GB should offer a life raft to a couple of their players 

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Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Statement from Badgers coach Gary Andersen: “Officials from the Cleveland Browns contacted me to talk about their head coaching vacancy.  After our initial conversation, I decided not to pursue the position."
 
 

Translation: I'd rather start a Bret Bielema fan club than get involved in that mess but I will take the leverage for a raise, happythankyoumoreplease.

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Originally Posted by Satori:

Holy Schit !

 

Team president Joe Banner is stepping down and GM Michael Lombardi was fired this morning. The owner is up to his ass in allegations of fraud and a Federal probe

 

The Factory of Sadness continues their death spiral....

GB should offer a life raft to a couple of their players 

The Lombardi firing was probably a smart move. The man is clueless.

Originally Posted by Goalline:

The Lombardi firing was probably a smart move. The man is clueless.

No kidding, but he's done an admirable job getting himself new jobs. He's worked with Bill Walsh, Bill Belicheck and Al Davis among others. And each time he has risen to the level of his incompetence ...and then got fired

 

Apparently they weren't going to tag Mack because the tag is for all OL positions, not just centers, so its an exorbitant amount of cash

 

The browns were planning to use the tag on the relatively inexpensive Safety spot instead. Mack will be a former brown in March...

 

Bak/Sherrod- Sitton- Mack- Lang- Bulaga....      

Originally Posted by Shoeless Joe:

Well so much for me thinking the Browns were an improving team loaded with draft picks and a stud WR & TE. 

What the NFL should do to the Browns is what they should have done to the Packers in the 80s, force their foot in the door and take control of the team until they're on firm footing. Not only are they destroying what was once a quality team with a fanatical fan base, it's an embarrassment to the NFL as a brand. Obviously, that proved to be unnecessary for the Packers, but a big part of their turn around was rooted in the incompetent board of directors stepping away from football operations. It seems unlikely that Cleveland's ownership hell will fix itself.

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Originally Posted by Satori:

 

Apparently they weren't going to tag Mack because the tag is for all OL positions, not just centers, so its an exorbitant amount of cash

 

The browns were planning to use the tag on the relatively inexpensive Safety spot instead. Mack will be a former brown in March...

 

Bak/Sherrod- Sitton- Mack- Lang- Bulaga....      

 

If you listen to the rhetoric, EDS is the 2nd coming of Jim Ringo...don't see TT going after Mack.

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

The current team has some talent and they are loaded with picks. I'ts a very good gig to come into right now.

This Haslam character seems unhinged. He'll find a way to squander the talent they've acquired. If Brian Hoyer (looked to be their best QB by far) had managed to stay healthy this year, they probably would have won at least 6-7 games, and Chudzinski and the rest would still have their jobs. What's going on in Cleveland these days makes the Forrest Gregg/Lindy Infante era in Green Bay look like glory years in comparison. Dan Snyder seems like a "hands off" owner when compared to Haslam. Washington at least manages to make the playoffs every 4-5 years. Cleveland has had two winning records, and one playoff appearance since they returned to the NFL in 1999.

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