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That’s how many yards Rodgers would have to average per game to be the first QB to ever throw for 6000 yards.

Crazy? Not so crazy to me. In Manning’s NFL record 2013 season, he averaged 342. Drew Brees averaged the same in his then record setting 2011 campaign. 

There’s an awful lot of folks in the pundit world tossing Rodgers’ prime out the door. He’s no longer elite. Want to see what a motivated Rodgers can do in a 21st century offense? Doubt him.. go ahead. 

Weapons- does he have enough? Maybe it’s more about the system. It sure seemed like the talent was pretty good, rookies being rookies and all. Was the system right for Jimmy Graham? Is there a better one? Did McCarthy even know how to use a TE anymore? 

It seems like a complete impossibility. But in today’s NFL, is it really? And with a legendary QB trying to prove a bunch of folks it wasn’t him in a system that Marcus Mariotta and Jered Goff have put up numbers? 

375... it could happen. 

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Under MM, who let him do what he wanted and didn't really give 2 shits about the run game? I would buy that as possible. 

With the new sheriff in town? Highly doubt it. To get to 375 per game, AR would be throwing like 40-45 times a game. Not a good look for a soon to be 36 year old QB wanting to play til 40. Throwing that much will mean the chances of AR on the ground much more likely. 

MLF has said time again, along with Rodgers, that they will be running the fuc**** ball. And unlike McStubborn, I really think LaFleur is going to commit to it come hell or high water. 

That means Rodgers, who if IIRC threw it 37 times per game  last season, probably drops to somewhere around 30 attempts. Unless he's throwing bombs every throwing play, he may not even get to 300 some games. And if that means they win games 24-17, 21-13, ? Fine by me. 

According to PF Outsiders, in 2018 the Packers had a .711 DSR (drive success rate- % of drives resulting in a first down or touchdown), which just above the league’s average at .710. 

The Chiefs were #1 at .798 (NO right behind at .797).

The most yards for an offense in one season all time is still the 2001 Rams with 7075 yards. 

The Packers don’t have Marshall Faulk... 

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In theory, I think the Packers have an offense that is capable of doing that.
In reality, it would mean dedicating the offense to accomplish that (read: still throwing when you're up by 3 scores with under 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter, among other things).

If a season played out where Rodgers was close to setting that record with 3-4 games left, AND they have a secured playoff seeding, I wouldn't see a problem with trying to accomplish it. 
I personally would prefer to have our RBs running out the clock for a victory after ARod has done his damage through the first 3 quarters.

Personal records are nice, but I don't really think we need much more validation that #12 is one of the best of all time and when I called him, he and I are in agreement that winning is more important.  So...

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That is the Forest Gregg offense. His idea of a good offense was Lynn Dickey throwing for 300 yards a game and 3 tds with no interceptions. How Dickey got to those numbers was not something he could help with. 

Music City posted:

 

The most yards for an offense in one season all time is still the 2001 Rams with 7075 yards. 

The Packers don’t have Marshall Faulk... 

The most yards all-time is the 2011 NO Saints with 7474. 2nd is the 2013 Broncos with 7317. Rams are still 3rd.

And I know Marshall Faulk. 

 

Sorry about that- should have dug a little deeper in the research- must have been old data. Net and gross are also variances I should have specified. 

One thing about that 2011 Saints offense- that was peak Darren Sproles. He had 1300 yards rushing/receiving that season as the 3rd down RB. They gave the ball to Ingram, Thomas, and Ivory about 300 times, and he still out-rushed them all at almost 7 yards a carry on 89 attempts. 

I suspect if the Packers run for over 2000 yards like that team did, we wouldn’t think they abandoned the run game. And while I like this stable of RBs for the most part, I don’t know about them doing that unless the rookie from ND proves a revelation. The Packers won the 2010 (2011) Super Bowl only rushing for 1600 yards. 

JMO, but I think the only 2 stats (besides winning) that's important to AR is QB rating and TD to INT ratio. Both of which he has a death grip on over anyone else in the history of the NFL. 

An increase in pass attempts to get to 6K yards likely increases his picks and hurts his career passer rating if he's taking more risks throwing the ball. Neither of which he'd want to jeopardize. 

michiganjoe posted:

#12 putting up 375 a game would indicate the offense isn't functioning as the head coach desires. Unlike MM, I take him at his word about running the ball.

Or more likely it would mean our defense is giving up massive points and yards to the other team so we're trying to catch up or just need to keep scoring to stay in the game. 

I prefer a balanced offense and a stout defense as others have stated. 

michiganjoe posted:

#12 putting up 375 a game would indicate the offense isn't functioning as the head coach desires. Unlike MM, I take him at his word about running the ball.

That’s not necessarily true. If the offense threw for 390 and they ran for 125, would that indicate the offense isn’t  functioning well? And there may be times the defense does a “pick your poison” game plan and  the offense is simply being dared to throw. In a game like that, the offense would simply be functioning as the game plan dictated to allow for the greatest chance of success.

One factor that cannot be discounted is the additional PI rules and the possibility that these changes could have some unintended effect this season that teams weren’t prepared for.

Prior to 2008, only Marino did it. In 2011, three different QBs threw for 5000, and if Rodgers would have played game 16 he likely throws for the 357 yards he needed to get to 5000 as well. It’s happened 9 times this decade. The game has changed. Ben Rothliesburger “quietly” threw for 5100 yards last year- and the Steelers neither lit up the score board all season long nor did it really seem like Röthlisberger had that kind of season. That’s the NFL today. 

I think we need to recalibrate what excessive yardage means in today’s game, and how balance is defined. We also need to take coach speak with a certain amount of skepticism. The NFL in 2019 is not one that even values the running back. In the end, don’t you just want to put your team in the best position to win? With the rules of today, and the complexity of offense and skill level of today's QB athletes, we have to at least acknowledge those consequences. Achieving this seemingly impossible statistical feat should be tossed aside no more quickly than have something that happened once in 90 years of NFL football happen 9 different times in the last decade. And it may or may not be indicative of anything but the convergence of circumstance that generated the same explosion of passing yards the last decade. 

I would be fine with one thing or the other- run for 3000 yards, pass for 10,000. Another Lombardi up on the shelf is the goal. But it is remarkable to me at least how this number, before seemingly impossible, seems completely possible today. And would any of us be surprised if #12 was the guy to do it? It wouldn’t be to me...

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