Gotcha. It is. Dude, it is going to be interesting to see what happens. So many unknowns, but a lot of promise. Still all on paper. We will see later this Summer/Fall.
Kind of a weird thing. Hadn't thought of that milestone, but, I guess it could happen if the chips fall right.
Music City posted:Sorry about that- should have dug a little deeper in the research- must have been old data. Net and gross are also variances I should have specified.
One thing about that 2011 Saints offense- that was peak Darren Sproles. He had 1300 yards rushing/receiving that season as the 3rd down RB. They gave the ball to Ingram, Thomas, and Ivory about 300 times, and he still out-rushed them all at almost 7 yards a carry on 89 attempts.
I suspect if the Packers run for over 2000 yards like that team did, we wouldn’t think they abandoned the run game. And while I like this stable of RBs for the most part, I don’t know about them doing that unless the rookie from ND proves a revelation. The Packers won the 2010 (2011) Super Bowl only rushing for 1600 yards.
I like where you are going there. Dexter Williams has a knack for busting big, big runs. I think this is going to be wild, both sides of the ball for GB. Just need the guidance to be successful and get the Ws.
You're onto something. I think it could happen if we play to our potential and run like hell. That will open up stuff for Aaron like we've never really seen before.
This alludes to what you're talking about: https://www.acmepackingcompany...action-nfl-offseason
Interesting statistical anomaly- Rodgers’ best yds/completion was in 2011, which was 13.5 yards/completion. Drew Brees’ total completions that same year (which the the yardage record) was 468, completing 71.2% of his passes- Rodgers the same %.
If Rodgers completes the same number of passes as Brees does that same season, with the same average yards per completion as he achieved, Rodgers would have had 6084 yards passing.
The Saints amassed 1093 offensive plays that season, and just under 40% were runs. Is that a solid balance? 60/40? Will MLF employ a more high tempo offense like the Saints did in 2011? If they do, how many more plays is it worth?
Music City posted:Interesting statistical anomaly- Rodgers’ best yds/completion was in 2011, which was 13.5 yards/completion. Drew Brees’ total completions that same year (which the the yardage record) was 468, completing 71.2% of his passes- Rodgers the same %.
If Rodgers completes the same number of passes as Brees does that same season, with the same average yards per completion as he achieved, Rodgers would have had 6084 yards passing.
The Saints amassed 1093 offensive plays that season, and just under 40% were runs. Is that a solid balance? 60/40? Will MLF employ a more high tempo offense like the Saints did in 2011? If they do, how many more plays is it worth?
Aided by what I believe will be a higher number of TOs created by our D. Aaron Rodgers will be getting the ball back a lot this season, if these defensive changes play out the right way for us. Seems reasonable to expect that with the players we have added.
I sure hope that the new D generates more turnovers. Besides injuries the constant theme on D is the lack of turnovers. Get the turnovers and get AR the ball in good field position and really good things will happen for this team.
Not to beat a dead horse but I think the number one key for this team is health. Every team is banged up I agree but the Packers are due for a healthy season.
A lot will hinge on how the D comes out of the gate which will show how far along it really is in year 2. While Pettine is going into his second year, up to half of his regular starters could be new to the team and to the scheme. I would expect lots of ups and downs in the first half of the season with the deep secondary getting torched for some big plays while they work out the communication issues. But as I've said since Feb, they really need to start coalescing before Thanksgiving. Hopefully they're not too far behind the pack to compete for a playoff spot by then which could be tricky considering the offense is in a similar boat.
DH13 posted:While Pettine is going into his second year, up to half of his regular starters could be new to the team and to the scheme. I would expect lots of ups and downs in the first half of the season with the deep secondary getting torched for some big plays while they work out the communication issues.
Remember how both Reggie White and Charles Woodson started their Packers' careers on fire? Oh yeah, they didn't. We'll have to be patient with all the new guys. Good post, DH.
Reggie White told every other newborn in the hospital to quiet down because he needed his sleep. Reggie started life on fire.
Yeah, DH, it will be interesting to see how long it takes these guys to come together and let it rip. Hopefully, they establish some familiarity in preseason, because I'd love for us to torch CHI week 1. A whole new game, with our starters healthy, hopefully, and most of our secondary in year 2 of Pettine's system, aside from Amos and Savage. I think both will be quick studies. A good, solid vet SS and a super intelligent and skilled FS who is picking things up quickly according to Tramon.
ChilliJon posted:Reggie White told every other newborn in the hospital to quiet down because he needed his sleep. Reggie started life on fire.
Reggie sucks. Took him 3 games to get his first Packers sack. Embarrassing.
With this group of WRs, RBs and TE's Rodgers is going to be lucky to hit 4000yds.
And after they dump Kenny Clark the defense will be terrible.
AtTheMurph posted:With this group of WRs, RBs and TE's Rodgers is going to be lucky to hit 4000yds.
MM had no idea how to or simply didn't care to utilize the TE position (just ask players who actually played TE elsewhere, then in GB) or was willing to commit to the running game.
MLF is a HC who I believe will do both. Those 2 rather important changes will light a fire under this offense alone. I got so sick of seeing a MM offense flat out ignore the middle of the field (where the TE should be catching passes) or inexplicably abandon the run despite someone like Aaron Jones cranking out a 4.5-6 yard + avg per carry that day. The games where he carried the ball all of 8 times was utterly ridiculous.
New regime. New ideas. New schemes. New breath of fresh air.
I was baffled most every year of MM's time how they were reluctant or chose not to attack the middle of the field in any meaningful way. Yes, there's more traffic and higher chance of turnover but there are huge benefits as well. And you just don't limit yourself to the perimeter unless you want the defenses to know what's coming which turned out to be the case as WR talent level shrank.
Think MM's shortcomings as a coach are going to become more evident as time goes by.
Tdog posted:I was baffled most every year of MM's time how they were reluctant or chose not to attack the middle of the field in any meaningful way...
If I was at the bar, I'd tell my buds the slant is there to be had!
If I was home, I'd bitch at the TV.
Gimme 275 a game and 140 on the ground.
