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Agree EKB.  Makes zero football sense, but perfect business sense.  Take it from a guy who lives in a town with 2 Kroenke owned teams: he is a shrewd businessman but could care less about winning championships.  Nuggets and Avs have fallen far since Kroenke got involved.  

And saying they haven't decided on a QB makes them look like idiots.  Has to be a favor to the NFL to keep some drama for the first pick on draft night.  

Per Barnwell teams that have traded into the top 5 to grab their guy at QB since 1990 has resulted in Jeff George, Kerry Collins, Ryan Leaf, Mike Vick, Mark Sanchez, and Robert Griffin. 

Paxton Lynch might be the best QB in this draft. Might be Kevin Hogan. Might be Goff or Wentz. 

Never trade up for a QB. Let them fall in your lap. 

That'd be very smart.........so probably precludes the Titans from doing it.  That team is much too comfortable picking in the top 10, doubt they'd want to do anything to jeopardize that.  

So long as the medical rechecks show he has a chance at a full recovery, I'd be ok with the Packers taking him at #27.  It'd be tough not getting anything from your first rounder in year one but I got pretty used it from 2011-2013 with Sherrod, Perry and Jones contributing little to nothing in their rookie years.  It's worth waiting a year for a special talent.  All depends on whether he can still be special after his recovery.  

He's in tier 10 on Thompson's board.

Even if the team physician gives the thumbs up, I still think there will be better prospects available at #27 and #57.  Wouldn't mind seeing Thompson taking him at #88, but if the team physician gives him the thumbs up then other team physicians will have given him the thumbs up and some other team will probably draft him well ahead of #88.

I do agree Ted should crush rounds 3 through 5 with his 2 additional 4th round comp picks. 

Im all kinds of fascinated where he ends up going with his round 2 pick. 

I still think Rd1 is Jarran Reed. My Reggie Ragland dream is dying just like my CJ Mosley dream bled out two years ago. 

If Ted finds a nice collection of starter quality slobs for both lines this draft is a win. 

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PackerJoe posted:

Even if the team physician gives the thumbs up, I still think there will be better prospects available at #27 and #57.  Wouldn't mind seeing Thompson taking him at #88, but if the team physician gives him the thumbs up then other team physicians will have given him the thumbs up and some other team will probably draft him well ahead of #88.

Disagree.  If (and it's a big if) Jaylon Smith is expected to be at 100% by May 2017, drafting him at #27 is akin to trading the #27 pick this year for a top 5 pick in 2017.  But it's even better b/c you get Smith into your program for a full year so he'll actually be more ready for 2017 than a normal first year player.  At 57, it'd be a no brainer.  Talent wise, Smith is top 5 in this draft.  IMO, it'd be worth waiting a year for that.  

Of course, it all depends on the medical recheck.  If he can't fully recover then i agree, Smith at say 90% of pre-injury talent may not be worth it.  But if he's expected to be 100% recovered, I'd take him at #27.  

Grave Digger posted:

I don't understand why you think it's not a talented draft? There isn't a franchise QB or pass rusher at the top, but there will be a lot of really great values...especially in the mid-rounds where TT normally kills it. The values on UDFA's will be great also IMO. 

My take is that there are 3 guys in this draft that are blue chip prospects: Ramsey, Jack and Tunsil.  The first 2 have almost no holes in their game and while Tunsil has all the tools, OL lately has been as risky a top 5 pick as QB.  IMO, those are the only 3 players that go top 10 in 2014 or 2015.  This top 5 reminds me more of 2013.  

But going from 10 through like 50, there's a ton of players that could be all-pros if they develop right.  They all happen to have significant questions that are the difference between journeyman and pro bowl.  Can Elliott be a difference maker at RB worthy of a top 10 pick?  Can Treadwell overcome his lack of speed?  Can Rankins and Billings overcome their lack of height?  Can the Bama DT's learn how to pass rush?  Can Spence stay clean off the field?  Can Ragland play all 3 downs?  Can Fuller catch the ball?  Can Chris Jones play with more consistency?  Can Su'A Craven and Darren Lee find a position?  I could go on forever but would not shock me if any of those guys become all-pros or bounce around the league for awhile.  

Would not shock me if any of the guys above went top 15.......or at #40.  Maybe this is no different than most years but I don't remember seeing the same guy mocked at #15 as #40 this close to the draft.  

CAPackFan95 posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Has anyone been more wrong about more things than Ron Jaworski? Has he ever been right about anything? 

You shut your whore mouth when Mr. Jaworski is talking.  Has he ever been right about anything?  Are you kidding?  More like, has he ever been wrong about anything?

 

Checkmate.  

He says Kaepernick "throws with accuracy". Even when he was flying high, that was one of the weakest parts of his game. In his two playoff games against the Packers, he completed just over 50% of his passes. Accuracy!

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