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While oil and coal companies have always had our best interest in mind, can't we at least consider not ****ting the nest?  

and, "but we have terrorists" is not a good reason to avoid ****ting the nest.  That is like saying, "we might get robbed some day, so I am just going to piss on the couch from now on until crime is fixed or someone moves the bathroom closer."  

El-Belichick-Landry posted:

While oil and coal companies have always had our best interest in mind, can't we at least consider not ****ting the nest?  

and, "but we have terrorists" is not a good reason to avoid ****ting the nest.  That is like saying, "we might get robbed some day, so I am just going to piss on the couch from now on until crime is fixed or someone moves the bathroom closer."  

I wonder if the so-called "mod" will come in to post how "stupid" this post is ??  oops, probably not....ahh....."the others"

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El-Belichick-Landry posted:

While oil and coal companies have always had our best interest in mind, can't we at least consider not ****ting the nest?  

and, "but we have terrorists" is not a good reason to avoid ****ting the nest.  That is like saying, "we might get robbed some day, so I am just going to piss on the couch from now on until crime is fixed or someone moves the bathroom closer."  

I was camping with some friends this summer. The one gal brought up how there are cannons that can be fired up into the clouds to prevent severe storms.   The whole group other than me were insistent on how she was right.  Another brought up cloud seeding and chemical trails that are used to manipulate weather.

I actually heard on a sport talk show today on how, or why, we don't use bombs to diffuse developing hurricanes.

The concept of energy seems to escape general society.  But, the concept of capitalism does not.  We have many people making plenty of money off the concept of glob...er climate ch... err.. carbon cred.. err...

I truly think using the power of the sun is a great idea. I am glad we are finally getting the technology to do it effectively (which isn't being suppressed by those who otherwise supply that power for profit). 

The climate always changes, has been for 4.5 billion years.  The earth was a ball of ice at some point not too long ago.   Those who think that a few changes will really change the progress from the last ice age to the next are hopeful capitalists selling their BS for profit on the fools. 

Enjoy your 75 years of existence on the planet if you are lucky.  The fact is, what you do matters little, but if it makes you feel good, go for it.  Just don't be a fool who lets the already elite profit from it.

 

 

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Agree with Boris.  Pray that Irma dissipates some how.

Image result for Hurricane Irma

 

ABC? Isn't that fake news? I want to see the Fox Track!

By the way what's Septembers  Rush Limpballs talking points going to be? 

We've gone from nothing burger to rule of law and law & order.

I'm at the edge of my seat in anticipation! 

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I did go back to find when the Mississippi River flooded in the St. Louis area so they called it a 100 year flood.  Going back as far as I could find data - it happens more frequently than you would think.  In fact on an average of every 8 years we have (what is called) a 100 year flood.  So it is relatively normal for this to occur.  Once we had what the press referred to as a 100 year event twice in three years.  And three times the water got to within 2 feet if the top of the levy's.  When I first got here the old timers then - talked about where the water flooded before they built the levy's.  If they had not built those levy's I might be living on the bluffs a few miles further east.  It was the frequency I experienced and the talk of those old timers that got me looking into the data.  So I think that the "100 year" label has gotten to be a media thing and not rooted in actual history. 

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

I wonder if the so-called "mod" will come in to post how "stupid" this post is ??  oops, probably not....ahh....."the others"

you make a... point??

I didn't know my "lets not dump roundup on each others flowers" was a controversial position.  Wind and solar brings in local jobs, clean(er) energy and doesn't fund a Shiek that wants all infidels dead.  I can sleep at night with opinion.  

I also feel I will see more friends and family die to early from cancer, heart conditions, etc.  Not as sexy as terrorists, but significantly more likely to hit home.  I also have no problem with my tax dollars helping out in Texas right now, my neighbors I've never met need it more than I do.  I also see no value in tax dollars going to a giant Texas monument between here and Mexico, I've met the Mexican neighbors, they are pretty cool.   Those millions can go to disaster relief, cancer research, and anti-terrorism and I would be much happier with where my tax dollars are going.  

In sum:  pro clean water and air, pro helping neighbors, pro investing in American technology, anti expensive monuments.  

And pray for Texas, the work is a long, long way from being done.  And after you wrap up that prayer, go ahead and send a few bucks to those neighbors you've never met, I know Texas had a contingent of volunteers up here when Cedar Rapids flooded (is there a standard for 100 year flood designation?  I think the local news just thinks is sounds cool).  

Cavetoad posted:
El-Belichick-Landry posted:

While oil and coal companies have always had our best interest in mind, can't we at least consider not ****ting the nest?  

and, "but we have terrorists" is not a good reason to avoid ****ting the nest.  That is like saying, "we might get robbed some day, so I am just going to piss on the couch from now on until crime is fixed or someone moves the bathroom closer."  

I was camping with some friends this summer. The one gal brought up how there are cannons that can be fired up into the clouds to prevent severe storms.   The whole group other than me were insistent on how she was right.  Another brought up cloud seeding and chemical trails that are used to manipulate weather.

I actually heard on a sport talk show today on how, or why, we don't use bombs to diffuse developing hurricanes.

The concept of energy seems to escape general society.  But, the concept of capitalism does not.  We have many people making plenty of money off the concept of glob...er climate ch... err.. carbon cred.. err...

I truly think using the power of the sun is a great idea. I am glad we are finally getting the technology to do it effectively (which isn't being suppressed by those who otherwise supply that power for profit). 

The climate always changes, has been for 4.5 billion years.  The earth was a ball of ice at some point not too long ago.   Those who think that a few changes will really change the progress from the last ice age to the next are hopeful capitalists selling their BS for profit on the fools. 

Enjoy your 75 years of existence on the planet if you are lucky.  The fact is, what you do matters little, but if it makes you feel good, go for it.  Just don't be a fool who lets the already elite profit from it.

 

 

Ozone

It's disingenuous to blame climate change on capitalism's desire for profits when the capitalists have the most to lose.  You're juxtaposing being swindled by said capitalists onto scientists; scientists who use scientific principle.  Not PR.  Not bottom line balance sheets.  Not massive bonuses.  

I'll only mention fossil fuel's connectivity to the cancer epidemic, foreign policy/energy investment of the West over the past century which could be offset by a whole new domestic economy that doesn't go away, poison the user or come strapped with bombs.  

It's about much more than one storm.  

And I say this respectfully Toad because you're deserving of respect.

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Takes two to tango. Without consumers there are no capitalists, simplistically stated.

Change the demand and the supply needs to adjust. So, while what I do individually matters little, the more like me the better - assuming what I am doing is right for humanity and our planet.

Conversely, the conscious capitalist can have an if we build it they will come mindset, but there are few of them around.



As for Harvey, it will be a long road to recovery and rebuild. America first...

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Hungry5 posted:

Takes two to tango. Without consumers there are no capitalists, simplistically stated.

Change the demand and the supply needs to adjust. So, while what I do individually matters little, the more like me the better - assuming what I am doing is right for humanity and our planet.

Conversely, the conscious capitalist can have an if we build it they will come mindset, but there are few of them around.



As for Harvey, it will be a long road to recovery and rebuild. America first...

And that's truly the issue of our time.  Capitalism isn't bad, the lack of ethical/moral capitalist markets are.

edit:  ethical/moral leaders.  Markets are markets.  Capitalism is economic theory.  

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Why rescue bats in H Town? Bats eat skeeters.  A lot of them.  Skeeters are bad. Bats are good.  Bats don't float.  Or swim. Save the bats.

100 year floods present real world problems.  FLOTUS has to dress down for the occasion. 

Global warming is fake news.  We should ignore it.  Harvey was an anomaly.   Every 100 years doncha know? 

Rising sea levels and water temps rising but pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  God help our kids and the next generations.  **** is real so do your part whatever you can yo 

 

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