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Hungry5 posted:

Tale of two halves. 

Dom's defense has its problems, but they did get two picks in the first half. In a Aaron Rodgers-QB game those two picks probably mean about a 24-7 half time lead rather than a 14-7 game. Then we get to sweat our inevitable defensive collapse, but it probably ends up being something like a 34-31 win.

So far in 2017, the Packers D, prior to the Saints game, had given up close to the lowest 2nd half points.  6, 10, 3, 7, 10, 9, then the 19. Their D may have been giving up yards, but they held teams to mostly FG's in the 2nd halves of games. Only 3 2nd half TD's until Sunday.

God Damn right I expect Hundley to light it up.

200 yards rushing behind him. A defense that won the turnover battle. 

3 years in the system according to Mr. QB guru himself MM. The QB room is fine.

The All 22 doesn't lie. WRs open all day long. He sucks & I'll be shocked if the Packers win more than 1 game the rest of the year

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I wouldn't be more surprised if I woke up with my head sewn to the carpet.

But seriously that was an interesting stat on the D.  There is also a stat out there about how few 20yd+ plays they were giving up.  Also their run D had been top 5 in first 3 quarters.  I don't get why it falls apart in the 4th.  Rotation not deep enough?  Kenny tired of being one man wrecking crew?

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The All 22 doesn't lie. WRs open all day long.

Some people* need to get their story straight about our O.  I thought everyone but 12 was a bum and he only made everyone else look better than they were.  I said before the game that the first wr reads would be open just like they were earlier in the year before 12 started going to them when behind a sack of potatoes at OL.  7 isn't trusting himself and he needs to get over that.  Both our O and D are too "cerebral" and and at some point the players need to trust their instincts and just GO.

I think 7 will start slinging it 2 weeks.  Don't know whether that will lead to success or not but I think everyone on that sideline knows it has to happen for them to even have a chance.

 

 

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Brainwashed Boris posted:

God Damn right I expect Hundley to light it up.

200 yards rushing behind him. A defense that won the turnover battle. 

3 years in the system according to Mr. QB guru himself MM. The QB room is fine.

The All 22 doesn't lie. WRs open all day long. He sucks & I'll be shocked if the Packers win more than 1 game the rest of the year

You're a funny man.  Or you have unreasonable expectations.

Can't figure out which it is.....

bigdoggyjude posted:
50k Club posted:
Maynard posted:

I'm not ready to completely write off Hundley.  I don't think MM did him any favors.  He had the running game going but I don't recall seeing very much play action run off it.  There was some, but it sure seemed like they should have had more opportunities for the passing game.  I think MM coached and called the game trying not to lose rather than trying to win.

I honestly can't tell if Hundley is going to be any good.  I don't think MM let him really play, and if he did, then MM really hasn't done much to develop him.  But the scheme certainly does not work for Hundley like it does for Rodgers because it certainly appears like it depends on having Rodgers.

Actually, Maynard, the scheme depends on otherworldly Rodgers (which he is capable of doing and usually does).  If you recall the "slump" for Rodgers from mid-2015 to mid-2016 where he wasn't playing at an uber-level, the team had a hard time winning (8-12 record).  I see such creativity and scheming to get WRs, TEs and RBs open from the likes of the Patriots, McVay with the Rams, Reid, Pederson with the Eagles and Payton.  Watching our guys run the same curls, hooks, verticals with DBs plastered all over them is old.

Indeed. I've always been the fan of MM's favorite play call - everyone go deep and no-one get open.

Three and out, unless Rodgers can do something amazing again. That is MM's favorite.

 

It was what...2 (maybe 3?) years ago when MM decided to become more active with the defense, shuffling coaches and giving up game play calling? All to better plan with the defense, or some other line of crap.
Of course, it largely got swept under the rug when MM had to re-assume play calling responsibility, and other issues became more pressing. But here we are again, pretty much in the same boat as then.
If that doesn't scream coaching failure, I don't know what does.

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