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The zone-read run scheme is a must have with a QB like Hundley... Gives rushing attack extra dimension and defense must account for QB runs...



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El-Ka-Bong posted:
GBFanForLife posted:

Why does anyone really care what Ben Fennell thinks?

This is an interesting post, why should we attend to it?  

It is a free world, you don't have to reply to it. Just an honest question. Been seeing a lot of Ben Fennell references lately. Maybe people just like that he has the initials BF?

Every single time I hear "Cleveland Browns", I always recall the NFL Championship game following the '65 season. St. Vince's first Championship, and the beginning of the greatest dynasty.
Dominating them on both sides of the ball, and shutting down the "great" Jim Brown.... man, those were the days!

It's sad to think that today's Browns have no real connection to those teams of the '60's, and have become what they have become.

I've looked at this game as being the one that may largely determine MM's future with the club. He has been digging his own grave since ARod's injury, and a loss here could put him in it much faster than expected.
There's not a single reason why the Pack shouldn't dominate and win this game going away. Even if Callahan had to play, for whatever reason, I'd still expect them to win.
That being said, I have no idea which Hundley will play or how this game may unfold. And that's a scary thought.....

Timmy! posted:

Every single time I hear "Cleveland Browns", I always recall the NFL Championship game following the '65 season. St. Vince's first Championship, and the beginning of the greatest dynasty.
Dominating them on both sides of the ball, and shutting down the "great" Jim Brown.... man, those were the days!

It's sad to think that today's Browns have no real connection to those teams of the '60's, and have become what they have become.

I've looked at this game as being the one that may largely determine MM's future with the club. He has been digging his own grave since ARod's injury, and a loss here could put him in it much faster than expected.
There's not a single reason why the Pack shouldn't dominate and win this game going away. Even if Callahan had to play, for whatever reason, I'd still expect them to win.
That being said, I have no idea which Hundley will play or how this game may unfold. And that's a scary thought.....

Which Hundley?  How many are there?

I'm terribly nervous about this game.......and I still don't want Aaron to come back.....to prove what???  Just call it a year and be done with it.  Now where's my voodoo doll of the queens.  

Timmy! posted:

Every single time I hear "Cleveland Browns", I always recall the NFL Championship game following the '65 season. St. Vince's first Championship, and the beginning of the greatest dynasty.

Vince's first?

Lombardi was the coach in '61 & '62 I believe.

Timmy! posted:

Every single time I hear "Cleveland Browns", I always recall the NFL Championship game following the '65 season. St. Vince's first Championship, and the beginning of the greatest dynasty.
Dominating them on both sides of the ball, and shutting down the "great" Jim Brown.... man, those were the days!

It's sad to think that today's Browns have no real connection to those teams of the '60's, and have become what they have become.

I've looked at this game as being the one that may largely determine MM's future with the club. He has been digging his own grave since ARod's injury, and a loss here could put him in it much faster than expected.
There's not a single reason why the Pack shouldn't dominate and win this game going away. Even if Callahan had to play, for whatever reason, I'd still expect them to win.
That being said, I have no idea which Hundley will play or how this game may unfold. And that's a scary thought.....

it really is kind of sad for what the Browns have become in the last 20 years or whatever it has been since they have been back.  The amount of ineptitude is insane.  They have had I think ONE playoff appearance since they have been back, I think they have lost 18 or 19 opening games in a row, have started 556 different Qb's, and have not won on a Sunday since Manziel was a starter.

But all of this makes me happy and warms my heart.  All of my ex wives family are die hard Browns fans and I hope their misery continues.  May sound petty but nope I don't care.

All kidding aside like DH13 I am VERY worried about this one and I immediately became worried when #12 went down. 

 

I believe CLE D is top 10, very good vs. the run which is currently our only calling card.  They've shown spurts of comptenency on offense but always come up short.  GB D needs to keep grinding like they did last week and hope our OL win the game for us again.

Per Bad Bob McGinn, The Browns have lost 2 of their best pass rushers for the year. The only one left worth anything is Myles Garett.

EDIT: The Browns are also 26th in the NFL in defensive scoring allowing 25.7 points per game. The Packers by comparison are 17th.

Their rushing defense is good, 6th in the NFL allowing 96.9 per game. The Packers are 14th in the NFL.

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A must-win game. There are no excuses, every game from here on out has to be "all in" with no room for error.

Make a statement in this game and get Rodgers back on the field. Destiny is not in our own hands, but we control winning out.

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Brainwashed Boris posted:

Yeah they blew their shot to do something special with the loss to Pittsburgh.

I'm having nightmares of Josh Gordon with 400 yards receiving & 5 TD's this week

The Pitt game, while frustrating, at least showed they can compete. The real problem was the shutout nonsense against the Ravens--at home--coupled with the Lions loss.

Those are two games that should have been won but for terrible play calling and an inability to lead at the QB position. We should be 8-4 right now--no sarcasm.

If the Packers win out they have a 90% chance of getting in. Playing with the Playoffs machine with nothing off-the-wall crazy (unless you count going 4-0 by the Packers crazy) gets us the 6 seed and probably a trip to Minnesota if we win the Wild Card game.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Yeah they blew their shot to do something special with the loss to Pittsburgh.

I'm having nightmares of Josh Gordon with 400 yards receiving & 5 TD's this week

You seem to have nightmares every week. Maybe you should get together with Josh Gordon, Lance Kendricks, Geronimo Allison and Aaron Jones, they could probably get you mellowed out.

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Brainwashed Boris posted:

Yeah they blew their shot to do something special with the loss to Pittsburgh.

I'm having nightmares of Josh Gordon with 400 yards receiving & 5 TD's this week

^^this^^  you are not the only one having this nightmare.  If Dom's D gives up that much I say leave him in Cleveland that would be a suitable punishment.

Hungry5 posted: 

Vince's first?

Lombardi was the coach in '61 & '62 I believe.

 D'oh!
You're absolutely right, of course.
I guess I was in too big a hurry, and after thinking of the '63 and '64 seasons, was starting anew. Or something....

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