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Cavetoad posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:

Jeffress had 2 previous plate appearances in his MLB career (both Ks).

He was 1 for 8 in the minors. 

10 plate appearances in 13 years of organized baseball. 

 

Have you ever had a positive take on anything in LIFE?  

Dude, get a new take, your negativity makes you seem even suckyer than you are.

I wasn't being negative at all. I was just happy we didn't go to Guerra. 

Made the 4 hour drive to the game......great atmosphere. Council is doing a great job.  When I saw Perez was in the lineup instead of Arcia I shook my head, should have been nodding it.  Lots of great decisions by council, and as a math person, I just want to say”go analytics”.  Now if I could just get the Brewers to hire my son and his graduate degree in data analytics.

justanotherpackerfan posted:

Made the 4 hour drive to the game......great atmosphere. Council is doing a great job.  When I saw Perez was in the lineup instead of Arcia I shook my head, should have been nodding it.  Lots of great decisions by council, and as a math person, I just want to say”go analytics”.  Now if I could just get the Brewers to hire my son and his graduate degree in data analytics.

I'm also a statistics-oriented person (albeit with a PhD in Biology, not Math). I love the way the CC has embraced what the statistics say you should do. Things like starting a game with a guy to get one out based on a much more favorable  matchup (which is possible with the expanded rosters in September), etc. That will work 9 times of out 10. The problem is that eventually some "old-timer, traditionalist" will roast him the 1 time out of 10 it doesn't work without talking about the fact that over a large sample size you will come out ahead in the end. It takes some guts to commit to that approach .

I wish some football coach would take this type of approach as well. Every statistical analysis done suggests that you should almost always go for it on 4th down no matter where you are in the field and you should onside kick almost every time as well. The 30-40 yards of field position you risk losing is nowhere near as meaningful as the ability to make a play to extend a drive or get extra possessions. The problem is football coaches know they won't get criticized for doing what's always been done and even Belichick got hammered for that one game he went for it on 4th and 1 at his own 30 against the Peyton Manning coach (like giving it to Manning at his own 40 instead of your 30 wasn't worth the high probability that Brady would convert). 

Pikes Peak posted:

I'm with you MP2, go for it in most situations, not all, most.  And go for 2 in more situations.  There is a  time and place for everything.

Of course I reserve the right to rip the coach when it doesn't work out.

Agree on the 2 point conversions as well. Being more conservative should be the exception not the rule (kicking the XP to go up 4 or 9 late in a game is obvious). 

I wish MM would embrace this, but he never will. If you don't recover an onside kick you give them the ball at the 50 instead of the 25. I'd risk 25 yards of field position every time to get Rodgers an extra possession. You'd have to look at the statistics once teams were prepared. Surprise onside kicks are recovered at 60 percent by the kicking team, when they know it's coming, kicking teams only recover 20% (unless Bostick is lined up to field it). But you'd still benefit from forcing the other team to spend more time in practice preparing against it, etc. 

Mike Sherman's 4th and 1 from the 42 in the Eagles playoff game is one of the all-time greater examples of when you should go for it every time. He did get them to 4th and 26 eventually, but if you go for it and get it, 4th and 26 doesn't happen, and they only gained 20 yard of field position punting .

It will also be interesting to see if other teams embrace spending moderately for a lot of depth in the bullpen compared to spending big on an elite starter. 

The Brewers have 18 pitchers on their 40 man roster. They have 42 million invested in all 18 guys (and 33 million in 17 guys if you don't count Soria). Obviously, guys like Hader will make a lot more money when they get to arbitration, but investing in young arms and a few Andrew Miller type bullpen guys is a lot more cost efficient than getting Yu Darvish or even clearly elite guys like Kershaw or Greinke. 

33 million for 17 guys on the 40 man roster 

vs. 

Greinke - 34 million

Kershaw - 32 million

David Price - 31 million

Scherzer - 30 million

Darvish - 25 million

Strasburg - 25 million


The Yankees, Red Sox, or Nationals are eventually going to figure out it's much more cost-effective and risk mitigating (a blown out arm on a 30 million dollar guy is catastrophic) to pay 7-8 good players 6-8 million each than to pay 1 or 2 starters 30 million each. 

 

 

Pikes Peak posted:

I remember 82, I was at the Saturday game of the sweep.  Need one more.

I was there as well. It was a fun game. My seats were close to the top row right field upper deck. It was the perfect vantage point to see Charlie Moore throw out Reggie Jackson on a line at third. I got in trouble so I had to go on Saturday instead of Sunday which my brother and Uncle went to.

Lets put this sweep on the front end of the series and not back end like in 82.

My memories from the 1970s and 1980s were listening to Uecker call games on the radio. My biggest Wisconsin-related sports wish is to hear Uecker call the final out of a Brewers World Series win. I think I would literally use that as my ringtone for the rest of my life. As much as I became a huge fan of the Packers, Bucks, and Badgers (and Jim Irwin and Eddie Doucette had their moments) there is nothing like hearing Uecker call a Brewer game. 

Harry Caray and Vin Skully were as much a part of their teams as Uecker is, but I think Uecker may be the most beloved radio announcer by the team's players in history. People like Robin Yount seem to worship the guy. What other radio announcer would be doing this? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...l0&frags=pl%2Cwn

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