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YATittle posted:

Did not know that Clay tried to work out some sort of deal to come back to Green Bay but the team wasn't interested.

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We may never know the real storyline on him...but forever grateful for the "Spill em Pickett" leadership at crunch time for another Lombardi.

Long term though...I do hope to see him standing at Pre-season games like a loving old Packer fart.

Sort of like Henry around here...but without the lumps in his shorts.

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Loved Clay, but he no longer had the combination of speed and strength to get around the edge, and he was never built to bull rush. That, plus he was an injury waiting to happen. He may put up some decent numbers this season with the talant that is surrounding him in LA, but I do not see him having any sort of "resurrection" where we all regret Gutterguts letting him go. 

Perry will get signed by some team after Tuesday that's desperate for a lukewarm pass-rushing body. If they can keep him on the field, he'll be just like he was in GB -- solid, but never living up to the hype. He might have been better if he had stayed at DE like he wanted to... who knows? 

But, with the Smiths and now with Gary, both were expendable. 

If you take injuries aside (and I realize that's a lot to put aside), both Nick Perry and CMIII no longer fit the body type and mold that Pettine wants in that defensive front. 

That's why they chose Gary and Gutenheimer said as much in his post draft interviews. 

They want guys who are tall ( >6'4), rangy, thick, fast and can really play anywhere along the DL. It makes it much more difficult for an offense to know where to line up their guys along the OL when you aren't sure who is coming from where. 

Also, do not skim past the hiring of Mike Smith as OLB coach. He will be a huge difference maker under Pettine. The guy flat out knows how to mold guys into very very good pash rushers. 

I think Pettine wants players who are disciplined on the edge. Clay couldn't set an edge to save his life. When he was younger he won more than he lost gambling on making a play, but in recent years he's losing more than he's winning on those gambles and giving the offense good opportunities. 

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I wouldn't call Perry undisciplined, he's been good against the run, but yeah he's just not very versatile. He can't drop back as an off the ball LB and he's not big/strong enough to really slide inside, so he's just an edge player...and not a particularly good edge player considering that's all he can really offer. 

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Brutal blow for the Cardinals...

Say, hypothetically, the Cardinals were falling apart by week 6 and were looking to dump the salary of a guy like Peterson while the Packers were looking more like a contender by week 6 BUT Kevin King has been nicked up and Josh Jackson isn't looking like starter quality yet. At that point Peterson's cap hit would only be about $6.8M for 2019 and about $13M in 2020.  He carries the risk of a full year ban for his next offense, but he's 28, he's extremely talented and has been pretty durable. Do you ride out the injuries with King and bank on Jackson continuing to improve or do you make a move to lock down the CB position?

Here’s what we know about Tony Brown. His 40 speed is slightly behind his speed to pick up 15 yard penalties. He’s a guy at corner like Jake Ryan’s a guy at LB. 

I don’t like that the Chargers staff that saw Casey Hayward as a FA steal saw Tony Brown as totally disposable. 

Josh Jackson might be the third best S on the roster today. Kid has a lot of talent. Gotta be patient with Josh. If you subscribe to the theory college production is a predictor of NFL success then give the kid a little time. 

ChilliJon posted:

Here’s what we know about Tony Brown. His 40 speed is slightly behind his speed to pick up 15 yard penalties. He’s a guy at corner like Jake Ryan’s a guy at LB. 

I don’t like that the Chargers staff that saw Casey Hayward as a FA steal saw Tony Brown as totally disposable. 

Josh Jackson might be the third best S on the roster today. Kid has a lot of talent. Gotta be patient with Josh. If you subscribe to the theory college production is a predictor of NFL success then give the kid a little time. 

Put me on the list of Tony Brown doubters. He made too many bonehead plays last year.

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