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i think i saw only one consequential catch, for the first down, he got out-muscled a bunch, ya, i would agree, but do you cut him for what? - maybe if we grab another wr via trade...but i think shepard is the guy who should have his head on a swivel this week, could be swapping for the guy they cut last week.  10 did not have a good game. wwj did not seem overly engaged, when i saw, so that's also not exciting...lazard grabbed it by the throat, thinking wwj would have, but ya, i think he's up one rung from the bottom with 10 being on the bottom.

Adams 3 years ago was Dropvonte. Now he’s a top 3 guy. Jordy was dropping passes in the Super Bowl- then he was one of our favorites making freeze frame catches against the best defenses in the NFL. 

Lazard came up big against the Lions, but each week the variables are countless, so the dynamic changes commensurately. He may be completely useless against Las Vegas because they’re doing something different. 

It takes time- some more than others. The ones who learn and then get consistent become the most valuable. Hopefully Lazard will do that. Or someone else will. Maybe this week it’s WWJ...

packerboi posted:

On a replay last night, I wanna say somewhere in the 3rd Q, WWJ is streaking down the field WIDE OPEN. Like Aaron Jones fumble fingers for that TD kinda wide open.

Rodgers, while under some pressure, just didn’t see him. Had he hit him in stride, WWJ scores easily. Give it time. 

Not the only time that happened. I saw WWJ have man coverage alone on one side multiple times in the game. I saw him running free multiple times. I also saw Rodgers ignore him like a spurned 15 year old girl the whole game.

Even mentioned it to my wife. Rodgers didn't want to throw to Kumerow. Why is anybody's guess. Maybe Kumerow ran a bad route in practice leading up to  the bears game? 

And will GB please get Lewis more involved in the passing game? For God's sake he's a better receiver than Jimmy Graham. He can run as fast and he doesn't go down in a clump at the slightest whiff of a defender near him.

Last edited by AtTheMurph

So now there’s some ulterior motive for not throwing to Kumerow?  

I was at the game and spent considerable amount of time watching the receivers and here’s what I observed: 

1) Detroit dropped a lot of defenders into coverage

2) Our guys struggled to get open - including Kumerow 

3) Allison in particular seems to lack and understanding of the routes or where to be 

4) Jimmy Graham needs to expect the ball and get his head turned around more quickly

5) Lazard was the only guy fighting for the ball 

I was shocked when MVS returned as it looked like he suffered a serious injury but it gets to a larger point about our WRs.   They do not like contact.  The Eagles got physical with our group and it affected their performance.  Detroit picked up on that (on tape) so they got physical as well.

The good news is Adams isn’t scared and I liked how Lazard played aggressive but it’s something that I am concerned about going forward.   

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Kumerow will play hard, know his assignments, and won't screw up if he's thrown to.  You probably won't see a ball bounce off his hands for an interception or have poor ball security after the catch. That's what happens with Allison and Shepard. In other words, Kumerow won't make a play that loses you the game. 

On the other hand, it's what MichiganJoe and others have said. He's a marginal player physically who is not going to get great separation or make a sensational play to win a game. If you put him on a team with 2 or 3 other great WRs that would force the opposing defense to play more zone, Kumerow is probably a great guy to run routes to find holes in the zone and make safe catches. 

DurangoDoug posted:

What I find somewhat interesting is AR12 lobbied for Lazard to play in the 4th, instead of Whitewater Jesus? Interesting since AR12 spoke so highly of Kumerow previously.

He spoke highly of Lazard, too. Singled him out a couple of times in TC. I think at this point he knows what Kumerow is and he's looking for someone that can actually help them win. 

Cavetoad posted:
Blair Kiel posted:
Hungry5 posted:

Said, thought, did.

Just the foggy memories of my drinking buddies from back then... so no real evidence. 

What about band camp?

What happens at band camp... stays at band camp.

You fell for the ”Blow on this piccolo “ trick too?

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