AFL-NFL World Championship Game Thread: Packers (Team 46) vs. Chiefs @ LA Coliseum 1-15-1967

Unfortunately or otherwise, this thread may evolve onto a "+/-" of the broadcast.

I was really disappointed, but suppose that may be my fault for having preconceptions about what the broadcast was going to be. Some fault does lie with how the NFLN 'marketed' it; a more realistic description would have been "...a discussion of the rebroadcast of SB1".

The format, with the picture cropped and the superimposition of the score, sucked. As always, the 'crawl' at the bottom of the screen is annoying as hell. Some of the information provided provided on the right side of the screen was interesting, but was just as distracting.

The in-studio guests could have been interesting if they had actually talked some x's and o's and similar, as opposed to the "how big was this game" fluff. Not to mention said fluff taking place as the game is being played...
The very best part of this entire production was the commentary from Robinson and Kramer. I still would've preferred to hear how they planned against the respective offenses and defenses, if there were in-game adjustments based on how the game was unfolding, and similar info, but they were both funny and entertaining.

The actual game was great, and brought back many memories. I hope Bart watched!

Ray Scott was simply the best ever

Word.

"Starr... Dowler... touchdown."

I never realized that in addition to the (2) TDs, McGee had a huge day. I would imagine, close to his most productive of his career. Yea, not a whole lot of breakdown of xs and os, but it was a more complete presentation. Until I read some stuff on NFL Mobile, I was also under the impression it was the unmolested CBS network broadcast.

No, the idiots at CBS & NBC lost the film so they painstakingly pieced it together with footage. That's why it's such a big deal.

Me & my coworkers were laughing at the Chefs cheer leaders & their outfits.

I forgot about the long pass play to Dowler for a TD called back by penalty.

It was interesting that Vince was blitzing, something the Packers didn't do very much. Because the first half was pretty close. In the 2nd half, the Packer running game & defense took over.

bdplant posted:

I didn't know Mariucci was such a Packers homer. 

Yah, and last week he was the ONLY one who predicted the Packers would win, the lone wolf if you will.  

NFLN totally hosed the opportunity.

Even some of Lombardi’s sideline rants were taken from other games.

Watching my DVR'd tape now, and holy moly tackling was really bad back then too.            

Most of the stuff that they discussed with the players was pretty standard fare for more except what Dave Robinson was saying about the (2) play-off games and the NFL-AFL championship game checks almost equaling his annual salary. $35,000!?!?!? Wow they took a beating for that, even with inflation. Jerry Kramer and Dave Robinson seemed to still have it pretty together mentally. Willie Davis seems to be showing his age more than when I had previously seen him. I know that they are declining in numbers and showing the effects of their age.

I was 10 days short of my 12th birthday when the first Super Bowl was played. Contrary to what was asserted over and over again in this broadcast, it was always called "the Super Bowl" by everybody in normal day-to-day conversations, in newspaper articles, etc. It just took the NFL awhile to trademark the name and make it official. 

As for the broadcast itself, way too much chatter, yes. Typical NFL Network idiocy by inviting Terrell Davis from the salary cap cheatin' Broncos to be there, for no apparent reason. The picture of the game film was cropped because all television screens were nearly square, back in the day.  Mooch was dead-on in his commentary; I think all Packers fans had a feeling of dismay at halftime. Green Bay was supposed to crush the impostors from Kansas City, and it wasn't happening. The AFL was seen as a vastly inferior league by NFL fans, and this game was going to prove it.  With the overabundance of commentary, I wonder why nobody mentioned probably the biggest change in football between then and now - the quarterbacks called their own plays in the huddle. That's one big reason there was no such thing as a hurry-up offense in 1967.

The interesting thing to see was the way the offensive line could not extend their arms to block. They looked like the guys that were on my Electric Football game. No wonder there was so much pressure. That and how close the RBs were to the QB but they almost turned into offensive lineman with how good they could block. 

I remember that smooth looking throwing motion from Bart though. And as everyone else has mentioned...STFU!!! 

Goldie posted:

Watching my DVR'd tape now, and holy moly tackling was really bad back then too.    

Pretty good observation, Goldie. 
There were many, many sound bites of Lombardi yelling "get your shoulders in there!". They didn't all come from this particular game (guessing), but it still reinforces your point.

CHEEZE posted:

Most of the stuff that they discussed with the players was pretty standard fare for more except what Dave Robinson was saying about the (2) play-off games and the NFL-AFL championship game checks almost equaling his annual salary. $35,000!?!?!? Wow they took a beating for that, even with inflation. Jerry Kramer and Dave Robinson seemed to still have it pretty together mentally. Willie Davis seems to be showing his age more than when I had previously seen him. I know that they are declining in numbers and showing the effects of their age.

You would think they'd have negotiated more in 2016.

@RichSandomir

NFL Net will show Super Bowl I reconstruction Friday at 8 pm w/o extra programming or in-game chatter.Just archival film and NBC Radio call

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Not shown on the schedule yet

DH13 talked about this in the other SBI thread. Just found the link:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/d...owl-i-215918750.html

A Pennsylvania resident, who has remained anonymous to this day, had a copy of the original broadcast and brought it to the Paley Center for Media in New York. The Paley Center vetted it on a two-inch-tape machine. According to Paley Center curator Ron Simon, the footage is fascinating. This was at the dawn of instant replay, so the broadcasters are heard reassuring viewers that they were not looking at game action but rather a capture of previous plays. Slow motion was still a new trick. Frank Gifford, then only 36 years old, provided color commentary. Pat Summerall handled the trophy presentation. The commercials were not at all like what we'll see next month: ads for Black Label beer, shampoo, and cigarettes. The cost of a 30-second ad was $42,000 (compared to today's millions). It's TV gold.

So the Paley Center gave it to the NFL and it was shown to the world, right? Well, no. Because the tape was so rare and valuable, the fan wanted money for it. He threw out a number: $1 million.

The NFL came back with a far lower number, "low five-figures," according to the tape-holder's lawyer, Steve Harwood.

"The reaction was: it's their game and they did not want to pay for something they felt was theirs," he says.

Harwood and his client still wanted to work with the NFL so that the world could see the tape. He says the league threatened an injunction.

"Gone back to them twice, 10 years ago and this year. Both times we’ve dealt with the legal dept.," Harwood said. "First time it was an outside law firm. Both sent us a nice little cease and desist letter."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/d...owl-i-215918750.html

Why go to the NFL with it?

I would've headed straight for the TV networks & sold to the highest bidder

NFL

Boris posted:

Why go to the NFL with it?

I would've headed straight for the TV networks & sold to the highest bidder

NFL

Because the NFL would file a cease and desist order. They really are being cheapskates here.

cuqui posted:

Ray Scott was simply the best ever

Word.

"Starr... Dowler... touchdown."

That's awful. What happened in between? Need more Troy and Joe.