Gus Bradley also an option ?
Former Browns’ HC Mike Pettine is scheduled to interview for Packers’ defensive coordinator job Tuesday, per league source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 8, 2018
Pettine is an interesting option. DC of Bills in '13, then HC of Browns in '14.
Badgers DC Jim Leonard played for Pettine in '13/BUF and '14/CLE.
Hungry5 posted:Matt Nagy (KAN OC) new Bears HC.
Hello Fangio?
TBSS
The #Panthers have fired OC Mike Shula and QB coach Ken Dorsey. There you go
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 9, 2018
Interesting from Carolina.
So let me get this straight. Had Carolina beaten the Saints, those coaches have a job through 2018? Probably....
Yes, but what do you do with Cam? Can't pass and read defenses all that well, runs well but then risks injury, he can be hot and cold as a QB, etc. It's hard to be an OC with that type of QB. If anything, it's on the QB coach to make Cam be better.
Mike Shula has been masterful at scheming around weak offensive tackles in recent history, sounds like scapegoating.
Cam has never had great receivers except for Benjamin who was always hurt so personnel has been an issue. Seems to me to a situation where they feel they need to bring in a 'different voice.'
Cam has shown the ability to be a successful passer, he just can't maintain any kind of consistency. His other problem is he still doesn't have the required QB 6th sense of knowing when to turtle up to protect yourself when running or even escaping pressure. He still thinks like a runner and he took another nasty face-on hit this last weekend because of it. He's another fence sitter QB that is too good to move on from and not good enough to count on to win games on a regular basis.
michiganjoe posted:Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN. The deal is likely to be worth about $100 million.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 5, 2018
Mark Davis must see something he likes in Gruden
My understanding is that the contract is pretty well back loaded as well. Must have something to do with those pesky taxes, CA versus NV.
DH13 posted:... he took another nasty face-on hit this last weekend because of it...
Actually, that big hit was him trying to escape the pass rush. He spun away from one guy, then was dump-trucked by #93 the instant he shook loose from that initial guy. It was a beautiful sight!
But I agree with your points. Cam reminds me of other QBs who are going to do it their way, regardless of what the coaches are trying to teach him. His biggest skill is masking his deficiencies with his size and athleticism. JMHO.
BREAKING: Darrell Bevell fired as offensive coordinator of the Seattle Seahawks after seven seasons, per sources.
That's kind of a surprise. I'd consider bringing him back to GB as a QB coach. Doubt he'd do that though.
Seattle fans have been blaming Bevell for their troubles for about 3 years now.
It wouldn't have anything to do with their bull$hit O-Line. Nahhh. That couldn't have been it.
Let Philbin pick his own coaching staff. I'm sure he realizes Bevell is available if he has an opening at the QB coaching spot.
Can confirm @lanceallan 's report that former #Giants asst. Frank Cignetti has been hired by #Packers coach Mike McCarthy as QBs coach.
Rusty posted:Given the golden horseshoe up his PR reps' ass, my prediction is that he'll get ALS and then we'll all have to feel sorry for ever disliking the guy.
What? Never rooted for ALS before?
Lambeau Lobo posted:Can confirm
@lanceallan 's report that former#Giants asst. Frank Cignetti has been hired by#Packers coach Mike McCarthy as QBs coach.
Never heard of him. What’s the scuttlebutt on this guy?
From Packers' Wire:
McCarthy and Cignetti go way back. Both are natives of Pittsburgh.
The two were both graduate coaches at Pittsburgh in 1989. Later, Cignetti served two years as the quarterbacks coach in New Orleans (2000-01) while McCarthy was the offensive coordinator.
So Fisher and Cig leave the Rams and in a year they improve immensely, Cig goes to NY and Eli not only does not improve but falls off the face of the earth....am I missing something?
Does a QB coach really do anything if Rodgers is the QB?
Well, it sounds like Cig had some success coaching Manning in 2016 and had some success as the QB coach for Bradford, Davis, and Hill from 2012-14. I don't think he was successful as the OC in 2015 (although they had a good rushing attack).
Let's be honest: he's never coached a QB with talent anywhere close to that of Rodgers. So if he can be fairly successful with players with far less talent, perhaps he can have success with #12.
I wonder if Rodgers had any say in this hiring.
naterpack posted:Does a QB coach really do anything if Rodgers is the QB?
Yes. Every QB should have a coach.
DH13 posted:Cam has shown the ability to be a successful passer, he just can't maintain any kind of consistency. His other problem is he still doesn't have the required QB 6th sense of knowing when to turtle up to protect yourself when running or even escaping pressure. He still thinks like a runner and he took another nasty face-on hit this last weekend because of it. He's another fence sitter QB that is too good to move on from and not good enough to count on to win games on a regular basis.
I think he never learned how to "turtle up" because he was almost always bigger than every LB and DB he played in college (and in the NFL). Heck, he's 6'6", 260 - he was the same size as most DEs he played against.
I think he's much better than a fence sitter at QB. Yes, he's been supported by a great defense at times, but he led Carolina to a 15-1 record 2 years ago. Greg Olsen is great, but 2 years ago his receivers (Funchess, Ginn) were pedestrian.
Who'd you rather have than Cam? Rodgers, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees for sure, but then who? Maybe Wentz, but I'd rather have Cam than Prescott, Stafford, Rivers, Carr, Wilson, Keenum, Ryan, or Cousins.
Lambeau Lobo posted:
Let's be honest: he's never coached a QB with talent anywhere close to that of Rodgers. So if he can be fairly successful with players with far less talent, perhaps he can have success with #12.
His main job will probably be to make sure that the backup QB can come in and execute a game plan beyond being able to throw the ball to the first read.
I think most of us on this board would have success being Rodgers' QB coach if we were going to be judged by how good Rodgers' looks.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:
I like how they frame it that he was the main reason Eli had such a good year. Their is a much simpler explanation that correlates with for Eli's had off and on success the last 5 years.
2013 - QBR 69.4
2014- QBR 92.1
2015 - QBR 93.6
2016 - QBR 86.0
2017 - QBR 80.4
Odell Beckham Jr. was a rookie with the Giants in 2014 and missed most of 2017. That's the correlation. Beckham may be a prima donna in the Randy Moss/TO mold, but he also caught 35 of Eli's 91 TDs in 2014-16.
Are you saying that QB coach in GB is an entry level position? If so - sign me up. It has to pay better.
Lambeau Lobo posted:I wonder if Rodgers had any say in this hiring.
Likely not, rumor is he is on a flight with Danica heading to Scottsdale.
GBFanForLife posted:naterpack posted:Does a QB coach really do anything if Rodgers is the QB?
Yes. Every QB should have a coach.
And I believe even Rodgers has said he wants to be coached.
MichiganPacker posted:I think he never learned how to "turtle up" because he was almost always bigger than every LB and DB he played in college (and in the NFL). Heck, he's 6'6", 260 - he was the same size as most DEs he played against.
I think he's much better than a fence sitter at QB. Yes, he's been supported by a great defense at times, but he led Carolina to a 15-1 record 2 years ago. Greg Olsen is great, but 2 years ago his receivers (Funchess, Ginn) were pedestrian.
Who'd you rather have than Cam? Rodgers, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees for sure, but then who? Maybe Wentz, but I'd rather have Cam than Prescott, Stafford, Rivers, Carr, Wilson, Keenum, Ryan, or Cousins.
Depends on what you think Cam is today and will be tomorrow. Is he the 15-1 guy or the most recent incarnation that includes all the concussions, reported and unreported? And his drop in success as a passer? I don't care why he doesn't protect himself, he just doesn't and that's going to limit his longevity/effectiveness. In addition, I would take Wilson, Ryan and definitely Wentz, maybe even Goff. Prescott - I'd like to see how he counters the way defenses countered him this year. We'll also see if Carr's 2017 or 2016 seasons were a better indicator of his ability. We'll see what Keenum really is in the next 3 weeks.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:
Is he going to teach Rodgers how to play like Eli did last year?
I'd bring Bevell in to be a QB coach, this unit is short on Mormons
You looking for a new coach to roast?
Oops, I thought you said moron.
Norv Turner hired as OC for the Panthers. Does anyone think Scam Newton will listen to anything Norvering?