"BluePrint" for beating GB

Denver won by taking the ball out of Manning's hands last week and no doubt they should have ran the ball more. The question that needs to be answered is how many times did MM call a running play that AR changed to a pass at the line.

 

The Packer offense has played against three very good defenses and failed miserably all three times.

Uh-oh.

You used the word "blueprint".

Wait until Boris wakes up. 

"Blueprint"

As long as the "blueprint" is Rodgers being hungover & his receivers dropping 6 passes plus tipped passes for 2 INT's. Oh, & don't forget fumble in end zone under 2 minutes.

Yes...I think we're all set. Ready to beat Green Bay.

At least Boris isn't just laughing at me. 

Agree completely. MM, or maybe Rogers, thinks this is a video game league not the NFL. 15 carries for the big fella is inexcusable. When your QB and his receivers have decided to have the worst day of their lives on the same day, run the damn ball. How about a screen pass? Misdirection? Draws? MM and Rogers are stuck on video game football and Seattle will shut us down here or there.

I was wondering the same thing

Eddie is banged up but Starks looked great and we also have Harris don't we?  

42 pass attempts seems like a lot on a day they clearly weren't at their best

same thoughts here.  RTFB when your passing game ain't working.  disappointing day.

but there, that's out of the way, time to start the run.

So AR and the WRs had their worst day "just because"?  or by bad luck?  BUF played the receivers tight and mugged them all over the field.  That's why AR was so off.  They couldn't get open and rather than risking an INT (like he did on the one throw), AR threw wide.  This offense has had "bad days" vs. all of the same defenses that rush 4 and cover with 7 and it so far has worked.  One can only hope MM and AR have now seen it enough to figure out a solution whether it's running the ball or otherwise.  The good news is only 2 more teams we may face can pull that combo off.  Bad news is if we don't figure it out, we're OUT.

My bet is the Bucs do not follow the blueprint this week.

In hindsight RFTB is a good counter-strategy. But when you have a world class quarterback and proven receivers I don't think it's that easy to just abandon them  and stop throwing. MM is probably thinking that things will start to click at any time and then we're back in the groove. Tough call. I think this was just the perfect storm.

So MM has a positive record and is doing well when measured by previous coach performances. He has been extended.

 

IMHO if MM wants to become a really great coach (read rival Lombardi) or surpass him then he should get his head out of the "Video game" mentality and use the three very serviceable running backs and play some "pound the rock", "move the chains" football. Make those seven that are covering come on up to stop the run and when they are good and committed to the run have AR and Jordy "bomb" their a****.

 

If MM does not adjust to the "seven deep" defense than the Pack will be a team that is just good enough to "break your heart".

 

I hope TT sees what is happening and is not caught up in MM's  inflexibility, if that proves to be the case.

 

 

Aaron needs to follow his own advice: R_E_L_A_X

 

When ANY athlete PRESSES, they underachieve.

 

He is no different. We've seen it in many games, sometimes just at the start then he settles in.

 

Yesterday it was like the flu and spread to most of the team (Save Eddie). Particularly to Jordy.

 

He needs to work on his mental game.

Even Bad Bob is reading Timesfour today:

 

"On the other side, McCarthy had a 32%-68% run-pass ratio even though the unexpected strength of the Bills' secondary, the way referee Bill Leavy's crew was letting the bump of bodies go downfield and the repeated failures of the receivers and Rodgers cried out for Eddie Lacy, more Eddie Lacy and then some James Starks."

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/285754381.html

The blueprint is that your DBs have to play an almost perfect game. GB had opportunities that they just missed, same thing happened against New Orleans. It's a game of inches and a couple inches were the difference between having a 94 yard TD and not having one. Buffalo played well, but they got lucky a few times.

As for running the ball, it's hard to say they should have run a lot more IMO. They ran well because Buffalo sold out against the pass, they didn't always run well though. It was boom or bust. I think GB could have run more in some situations, but when there looks to be opportunities in the pass game then you have to take them. Just because the pass didn't work out doesn't necessarily mean they should have run. Certainly the dropped pass by Jordy was an amazing opportunity that they just missed.

Denver did, and CJ Anderson ran for three TDs with half the average yards/carry Lacy and Starks were getting. 

Hindsight is awesome, and I expect McCarthy will see that they had more opportunities with the running game that they didn't take. That said, the score was 10-10 at the half and the Packers hadn't played great and BUF had a TD on a punt return. Coaches have plans and they rarely deviate from them when the game is tied at the half. There was no indication based on the flow of the game that Rodgers et al would continue to chit the bed in the passing game for the 2nd half.

 

 

4th qtr, down 19 - 10

Lacy for 6

Lacy for 21  (off holding brings it back)

Pass

Pass

Pass

Pass

Pass

AR scramble (pass play)

Pass

FG

 

 

So much I don't understand about football.

 

OMG, a lovepack posting. Did the Packers lose?

 

Personally think, Arod is the biggest issue there. Good QBing dictated that they run that ball until the Bills called uncle. Instead, he was looking for the big pass play. No evidence, of course, but I think he audibled out of many run plays.

I think you can run the ball effectively with Lacy until you get inside the 40 (or maybe until the red zone). Then the field shrinks and the 7 man boxes have the DBs closer to the LOS. The Patriots had a similar strategy and held GB to FGs in the red zone. The Bills did the same thing. Our defense played similarly well against the Bills and Patriots, the differences were that Jordy catches and scores on a long pass play and the special teams were competent against the Patriots.

 

At some point you have to throw to score TDs or else you have to win games ugly like the Bills, Dolphins, Seahawks, Texans, 49ers, etc. We don't have the defense to consistently win game ugly. What we are missing is a red zone TE. Nelson and Cobb are both great, but not elite receivers. Nelson is closer to elite than Cobb, but he's not a guy you go to for fade routes or red zone jump balls like Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Alshon Jeffrey, or Brandon Marshall. Nelson may be the best home run guy in the NFL but he's at his best when he has space to set guys up with his route running and then outrun people to the end zone. Cobb is like Wes Welker in his prime (if Cobb leaves and goes to the Patriots he might catch 120 passes/year in that offense).

The way to beat this "blueprint" is to have a TE that can outmuscle guys in traffic. Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Antonio Davis, etc. It's no accident that the biggest red zone TD of the year was to Quarless when he got matched up against a much smaller guy at Miami. The problem is that Quarless doesn't win those battles enough. Bostick was supposed to be that guy, but that didn't materialize. Richard Rodgers may develop?

BUF played the receivers tight and mugged them all over the field.  That's why AR was so off.  They couldn't get open and rather than risking an INT (like he did on the one throw), AR threw wide.   I agree with this DH13.....heard this on some talking head show that that's how you beat AR.  Cover tight and keep bumping receivers off the line.....and that is exactly how Buffalo won the game.  So hard to watch the game.  Ugh..... and the wide open Jordy drop was it for me, I turned the channel and watch Lord of the Rings.  

To beat Green Bay, I would want a front 4 that causes problems all on its own, an exceptional example being the Giant line of the team that beat the then undefeated Patriots.  I'd also want the back 7 to cover a lot of space so that LB's and others can close fast should the call be a run.  Add to that a secondary that can play tight coverage.

 

The Seahawks look to be cusping at the right time.  I don't know about in Green Bay, but in Seattle, a Packer offense that is limited would not be some exceptional, unexpected turnout.

 

Biggest concern for me for lack of Packer success is the defense needing to hold the Seahawk offense under what the Seahawk's are holding the Pack, in Seattle.

 

That'll be a tough one.  My guess is the Hawks would be 4-5 point favorites and most folks would lean toward them winning.

 

But, they play 'em on the field.

ach Kruse ‏@zachkruse2 <small class="time">3m3 minutes ago</small>

#Packers ran 12 times over the first 27 plays. Clearly in the gameplan to run. Then called just 10 more over the final 41 plays.

I saw it as the GBP beating themselves yesterday.  The O didn't execute the pass the game worth a crap and when they did it was butterfingers day.  I don't think the Bills D was responsible for much of GB's O failure.  Bad day at the office.

 

let's win the next two and then we'll talk about all that other playoff chit.

 

DING DING DING DING DING!

 

Buffalo played well & deserved to win but the Packers had opportunities. That would've been a real tough loss for the Bills if the Pack came back & won. 

 

Like I said before. It's an AFC loss. Doesn't mean too much in the grand scheme. Probably lost HFA, yeah, so what. Get the #2 & tear the NFC apart.

 

We're on to Tampa

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We're on to Tampa

 

 

 

While I think gb beat itself that is the problem they can get flustered if it doesn't go their way and patience can wear thin 

 

It helps when QBs and receivers aren't killing drives.

Oh man, did you just quote the post right above yours?

Beware of the almighty El-Ka-PenisBreath!

Lacy had 5 carries in the 2nd half

 

 

The same blueprint has been around since 2011. The Packers have hung 40+ on teams playing that same twin safety look. But we're like a basketball team that can run anybody out of our own building early.  When we get out on the road they turn it into a half-court game. It isn't just Seattle and Detroit. We struggled  offensively against everyone save the Bears away from Lambeau. The frustrating thing about Sunday is that the Packers ran the ball very effectively and still struggled to score.

I think AR audibled, and may have done so out of the run several times. He was making a lot of signals to his WRs, and there was a lot of shifting in the backfield. That to me signals audible. I wonder if AR just wanted to prove he could right the ship and himself and do it by himself. Lacy and more Lacy would have been the ticket, but AR may have grown impatient with it and not MM. 

 

Let's hope Tampa is the cure for what ails or we may be watching the playoffs without a team in the race.

Even if Aaron audibled a high percentage of second half plays, the game was still winnable. It only takes one good route, and one good throw. The fingertips tap for the safety is a once in a lifetime game ender for Buffalo.

Based on yesterday, the formula is "wait for AR to have a bad day."

 

If that's what you're hoping for, you'd better come up with a better strategy than that. AR and the WR were off yesterday...little of what Schwartzy did made a difference. We were getting guys open...we were just dropping balls or having them thrown behind WR.

The word is out that if you punch the Packer receivers in the face they don't respond particularly well. Rather than complaining about how the game was called the team needs to figure out how to adjust. MM moving Cobb into the backfield was a good move that opened things up a bit but the necessary balance still wasn't there, as MM himself admitted after the game.

 

One highlight yesterday on I believe the pick to Cobb, Rodgers had Jordy WIDE open on a go route running free down the sideline. 99.9 % of the time he sees Nelson. Jordy had nothing but lawn in front of him. Would have been a very easy 7 points.

Not if Jordy dropped the ball.  

 

In all seriousness, I think if AR doesn't throw the "pick" behind Cobb, that pass ends up being a big gainer as well as there was nothing between him and the end zone too.

Ditto to hoping Tampa will be the cure, and I WANT A THRASHING OF THEM, something like 55 to 10 would be nice.     JMHO.  

Rodgers always responds very well the following week after having a bad game. Tampa is in big trouble of getting boat raced unless a hurricane hits the stadium.

 

Congrats Buffalo! You finally won a "Super Bowl" You deserved it. Enjoy!

       
       


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