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Ingles is unplayable against this type of lineup.  Terrible on defense tonight.

I don't see what he brings at all with his game - bad defense, can't shoot, mental mistakes. He tried his best to give away the Suns game at the end and I don't understand why he was on the floor.

Bucks go 4 from 12 from the line. Are down 10 in the middle of the third. Commit 17 turnovers.

But win a blowout in the 4th as they go on a 37-18 run in 11 minutes from the middle of the third to the middle of the 4th.

Giannis at 33-15-4 in 28 minutes.

15 wins in a row.

@mr21mr21 posted:

I don't see what he brings at all with his game - bad defense, can't shoot, mental mistakes. He tried his best to give away the Suns game at the end and I don't understand why he was on the floor.

He's really good in the pick and roll game, and he can create shots for others. He's a good shooter as well.

His big issue will be whether he can be on the floor against Boston. The Nets lineups tonight had a bunch of guys like poor man's Tatums and Browns in Dinwiddie, Bridges, and Cam Johnson and he was manhandled on defense.

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Ingles is an exceptional passer in and out of pick and roll.  He can also hit shots.  

I would be concerned him playing against Boston.  Crowder, Matthews, Pat C and Portis are better options.

@Tschmack posted:

Ingles is an exceptional passer in and out of pick and roll.  He can also hit shots.  

I would be concerned him playing against Boston.  Crowder, Matthews, Pat C and Portis are better options.

If everyone is healthy, the closing lineup against the Celtics is likely to be

Giannis, Middleton, Holiday, Crowder, and Matthews. 5 guys that are all switchable and all elite defensive individual players in one on one matchups.

Lopez, Allen, and Ingles are targeted on defense.

Boston's offense is based on having two KDs (Tatum and Brown) on offense and running pick and rolls until you get one of those two matched up against the weakest defender on offense. They also design their sets well to get Giannis as far away in help defense as possible. Then, if you do run a double against one of those two, you have the other one, Brogdon, Grant Williams, Horford, or Marcus Smart taking wide open 3s. Last year, Grant Williams basically won one of the playoff games hitting a bunch of threes, while Horford went nuts in another.

You almost have to play them straight up and not double which is why the matchups are tough for Lopez, Allen, Ingles, and even Connaughton.

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I agree with everything you’ve said MP but do think Pat C will get a little more playing time against Boston because he’s an elite rebounder for a guy his size and he’s not a liability shooting and scoring.  Even more important if you take Lopez out of the lineup.  

Ingles interesting because he’s very skilled offensively.   He’s not much of a defender for sure.  

Boston is in a similar situation with Robert Williams.  He’s outstanding defensively but he can’t shoot.  That’s why I think Horford and Grant Williams and Muscala will get more playing time.

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By the way, Ingles is a career 41% from 3.  That’s really good even if he’s around 35% for this season.  

Portis is in a similar situation.  His 3pt shooting is down (slightly) but he’s a career 38% from 3.

@Boris posted:

What's Jae Crowder from 3?

He's the key addition that tips the scales in the Bucks favor, IMO.

He was 37% the last two years in Phoenix. He's 4 for 6 so far in Milwaukee.

He's going to be crucial in a series with the Celtics, if both teams get that far.

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